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Lilly Curtis

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Quick tip from someone who went through this last year - if you're splitting mortgage interest and taxes with someone not on the 1098, make sure you BOTH keep: 1. Bank statements showing transfers to the joint account 2. Records of the joint account paying the mortgage 3. A written agreement between you both about the arrangement (doesn't need to be formal, just documented) 4. Calculation of the exact percentages each person paid I ended up getting a letter from the IRS questioning my deduction since the 1098 wasn't in my name, but once I sent this documentation, they accepted it without any issues.

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Kevin Bell

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! We still have all our bank statements showing the transfers, but I hadn't thought about creating a written agreement. We'll definitely put something together documenting our 50/50 arrangement. Did you just create a simple letter that you both signed or did you use some kind of template?

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Lilly Curtis

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I just created a simple one-page letter stating that we agreed to split the mortgage payments and property taxes 50/50, with both our names, addresses, and signatures. I also included a spreadsheet showing all the payments made throughout the year from each of us. Nothing fancy, but it was enough to satisfy the IRS when they asked for documentation.

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Leo Simmons

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Something else to consider - are either you or your ex itemizing deductions? Remember that mortgage interest and property taxes only help if you're itemizing rather than taking the standard deduction. With the standard deduction being $13,850 for single filers in 2025, you'd need your total itemized deductions (including these housing expenses plus charitable contributions, etc.) to exceed that amount for itemizing to make sense. If one of you itemizes and the other takes the standard deduction, it might be more tax-efficient for the itemizing person to claim a larger share of these expenses if that's something you can work out between yourselves.

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Lindsey Fry

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Good point! My accountant actually suggested something similar when I was in this situation. If only one person benefits from itemizing, it might make sense to adjust the "economic reality" of who pays what going forward. Of course, this needs to be actually implemented, not just claimed on paper.

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Facing $40k+ in tax problems - would fixing retroactive payroll for S corp be cheaper?

I'm trying to get a rough idea of how much it'll cost me to file 3.5 years of retroactive payroll for my S corp. This whole situation is a complete nightmare and I'm stressing hard about it. Here's the mess I'm in: Back in 2020, my CPA recommended I could save money by making an S election for my LLC. We proceeded with that plan - for my 2020 taxes. The 1120S he filed had the S election box checked and listed 1/1/2020 as the effective date. I filed my 2021 and 2022 personal and business taxes without any issues - everything seemed fine. (Haven't filed 2023 yet - got an extension.) Well, after not getting my expected corporate tax refund, I called the IRS to check on it. That's when I discovered: 1. My CPA never actually filed Form 2553 (Election by a Small Business Corporation) 2. The IRS has zero record of my corporation because there was no 2553 filed 3. The IRS apparently has no record of any corporate tax returns being filed - seems like without the 2553 to match them to, they just vanished somewhere?? I had NO CLUE about this problem - every year I'd get confirmation that my taxes were e-filed successfully. I have copies of all the filings. Never got any letters or notices from the IRS. Nothing indicated there was an issue. Now I'm looking at two options: Option 1: Amend my taxes to reflect my business as the single-member LLC (Schedule C) that I apparently still am according to the IRS, despite thinking I was an S corp for the last 3.5 years. Option 2: Try to fix the S corp election issue and file retroactive payroll...

Gabriel Ruiz

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Don't forget about state tax implications too! I went through something similar in California and while I was fixing the federal issues, I completely missed that I also needed to address the state filings. Ended up with a whole second headache. Make sure whatever solution you choose, you're addressing both federal AND state requirements. Each state has different rules about conforming to federal S-corp elections.

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Rajan Walker

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Oh man, I hadn't even thought about the state implications. I'm in Illinois - do you know if they automatically recognize the federal S-corp election or do I need to file something separate with them too?

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Illinois does generally conform to federal S-corp elections, but they still require their own notification. You need to file Form IL-1120-ST with the Illinois Department of Revenue, and they technically want you to submit this within 60 days of your federal election. Since your federal election is going to be retroactive, you should contact the Illinois Department of Revenue specifically about your situation. They may require you to file a separate late election acceptance for state purposes. Unlike some states that automatically accept the federal election, Illinois wants to be formally notified, even though they typically follow the federal tax treatment.

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Make sure to get a new CPA! I had a similar situation where my accountant messed up my S-corp election. I went through 3 different accountants before finding someone who actually knew how to handle the correction properly. Look for someone who specifically has experience with entity election corrections and IRS abatement requests. A good CPA will know exactly what documentation to prepare and what procedures to follow for your specific situation.

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Any recommendations for finding a CPA who specializes in fixing these kinds of messes? I've been looking but everyone I talk to seems to have a different opinion on how to handle it.

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For Schedule C documentation, I organize everything by expense category. For regular monthly expenses (software, subscriptions, etc.), credit card statements are usually sufficient. For variable expenses or bigger purchases, I keep both the invoice and payment proof. One tip: take photos of receipts with your phone immediately! I use an app that organizes them by date and category. Saved me so much hassle at tax time and during an audit two years ago.

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Which app do you use for the receipts? I've tried a couple and they were garbage at organizing things properly.

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I use Expensify for most things - it automatically extracts the vendor, date, and amount which saves tons of time. It also syncs with my accounting software. Before that I used QuickBooks' receipt capture feature, which was decent but not as good at recognizing text on receipts.

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Mia Green

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Quick question - does anyone know if Amazon order history/invoices count as proper documentation for Schedule C? I buy a lot of supplies through Amazon and usually just have the email confirmations and order history in my account.

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Emma Bianchi

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Amazon order history plus your credit card or bank statement showing the payment amount does work. I had an audit last year and this combo was accepted. Just make sure the amounts match and you can show the items were for business use. If it's a mixed order with personal items, highlight the business items specifically.

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Mia Green

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Thanks for the info! That's a huge relief since about half my office supplies are from Amazon and I've just been keeping the email receipts and order details page screenshots. Good to know that plus my credit card statements should cover me.

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Tyrone Hill

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The supplement industry is pretty heavily regulated. Is your client following FDA regulations for supplement labeling? Those labels cost money. Also, supplements need to be in appropriate containers that maintain stability - those aren't free either. The IRS isn't stupid. They know what running a business costs. If he's selling $12K worth of supplements with zero expenses, that's going to raise eyebrows. Even if the raw materials were gifted, there's packaging, labels, shipping, possibly a scale for measuring, maybe a website or marketplace fees.

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Harmony Love

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You make a really good point about the regulatory compliance stuff. I hadn't even thought about the FDA labeling requirements. I'm going to ask him specifically about packaging, shipping supplies, and the labels since those definitely couldn't have been "gifted years ago" - they would be ongoing expenses. I've been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the more I think about it, the more impossible it seems to run any business with zero expenses. I'm going to have a more direct conversation with him and explain that I'm trying to help him avoid unnecessary IRS scrutiny.

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Tyrone Hill

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Glad I could help! The FDA requires supplements to have specific labeling including ingredients, nutrition facts, serving sizes, and various disclaimers. He's definitely paying something for compliant labels unless he's operating completely under the table (which would be a whole different problem). Also consider asking about things like shipping costs, payment processing fees (Venmo might charge business accounts), any social media or advertising costs, and home office expenses if he's producing these at home. Sometimes clients don't realize these all count as legitimate business expenses that would actually reduce his tax liability.

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My sister sells homemade soaps and had a similar situation where most of her initial supplies were gifted. Her accountant told her she STILL needed to establish a fair market value for the gifted supplies as beginning inventory and then deduct the cost of goods sold as she used them. Also, Venmo now charges fees for business transactions - is he paying those? That alone would be an expense. And if he's actually complying with regulations for selling supplements, there's no way he has zero expenses. The IRS knows what businesses cost to operate.

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Do business Venmo fees show up separately somewhere? I've been paying them but haven't been tracking them for my small business.

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Don't forget that not all business expenses at the beginning are startup costs under Section 195! If you were already "in business" (carrying on regular business activities) and not just in the startup phase, those are regular business expenses that go on Schedule C. The distinction can be tricky.

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Zainab Ahmed

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How do you determine the exact point when you're "in business" versus still in startup phase? I set up my LLC in January 2023 but didn't start making sales until March 2023. Would expenses in that January-February period count as startup costs?

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Yes, those January-February expenses would likely qualify as startup costs under Section 195. The IRS generally considers you "in business" when you begin your actual business operations - which usually means when you start offering goods or services for sale. Since you formed your LLC in January but didn't begin making sales until March, the expenses incurred in that January-February window would typically be considered startup expenses subject to the Section 195 rules, including the $5,000 first-year deduction limit with the remainder amortized over 180 months.

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Has anyone had issues with TurboTax miscategorizing regular business expenses as startup costs? Last year my tax software kept flagging normal expenses as Section 195 items and it was super frustrating.

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NebulaNomad

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I had the opposite problem - TurboTax didn't recognize my legitimate startup costs at all until I manually selected the form. Make sure you're entering your business start date correctly in the software. That's usually what triggers these categorization issues.

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