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Does anyone know if the extension also applies to amended returns? I filed my 2021 taxes last year but realized I missed claiming some disaster-related expenses. Would those amended returns also get the extension to October?
I asked my tax preparer about this last week! Amended returns for tax year 2021 would normally be due by April 18, 2023 (the standard 3-year amendment period). If you're in the disaster area, this deadline is also extended to October 16, 2023. So yes, you have until October to file that 2021 amended return!
Quick question - does anyone know if we still need to FILE FOR an extension, or is this automatic for everyone in the affected counties? I'm in one of the California disaster zones and not sure if I need to submit Form 4868 or if we're just automatically given until October 16th.
It's automatic! If your primary residence or business is located in the federally declared disaster area, you don't need to file any extension forms. The IRS automatically provides the relief to anyone in the covered disaster areas. The system is set up to recognize your location based on your address on file with the IRS.
Another option - if you're just missing the W2, you can try calling the IRS directly at 800-829-1040. If your employer hasn't sent it by Feb 15th (which is the deadline), the IRS can send a nudge to your employer. You'll need: - Your name, address, phone number, SSN - Your employer's name, address, and phone number - Dates of employment - An estimate of the wages you earned and taxes withheld You might actually be able to get the W2 info from the IRS directly if it was already submitted by your employer.
Thanks for this info! I had no idea the IRS could help with missing W2s or that employers had a deadline for sending them. My company is definitely past that February 15th deadline now so maybe that's why they're being so slow about it. I'll definitely try calling that number. Do you know if there's a way to check online whether my employer has already submitted my W2 info to the IRS? That would save me time on the phone if I could see it's already in their system.
Unfortunately there isn't an online way to check if your specific W2 has been filed with the IRS yet. The only way to get that information is by calling them directly. One thing you might try though is creating an account on the IRS website (if you don't already have one) at irs.gov/account. While it won't show your current year W2 info before you file, it will at least give you access to request a wage and income transcript from previous years, which can be helpful for reference.
Minor point but super important - if you're going to owe any taxes (even if you usually get a refund), make sure you at least PAY what you estimate you'll owe by the deadline, even if you file later. The failure-to-pay penalty is separate from failure-to-file. I learned this the hard way when I changed jobs and didn't have enough withholding. Thought filing an extension gave me extra time to pay too. NOPE! Still got hit with interest and penalties on what I owed.
This is the most important advice in the thread honestly. The extension is ONLY for filing paperwork, not for paying what you owe! I think a lot of people don't realize this.
22 Have you considered taking a loan from your 401k instead of a withdrawal? Most plans allow you to borrow up to 50% of your vested balance (up to $50,000). You'd have to pay interest, but you're paying it to yourself, and there's no penalty or taxes if you repay according to the terms (usually within 5 years).
1 I actually didn't know that was an option! Would the loan show up on my credit report? And what happens if I leave my current job before it's paid back?
22 401k loans don't appear on your credit report since you're essentially borrowing from yourself, not a financial institution. If you leave your job before repaying the loan, that's where it gets tricky. You'll typically need to repay the full remaining loan balance by the tax filing deadline (including extensions) for the year you leave your job. If you don't repay by that deadline, the outstanding loan amount is treated as a distribution, subject to taxes and the 10% early withdrawal penalty - exactly what you were trying to avoid in the first place. So only do this if you're stable in your job.
11 I withdrew from my 401k last year and nobody warned me about Form 5329! Make sure you file this form with your taxes to report the early distribution, or you could face additional penalties. I got a nasty surprise letter from the IRS because I didn't include it.
17 Does tax software like TurboTax automatically include this form when you report a 401k withdrawal or do you have to specifically request it?
Just a heads up for anyone struggling with sales tax - the requirements are different in every state AND they change constantly. I got hit with a huge penalty because I didn't realize that once I hit $100,000 in sales in Michigan, I was supposed to start collecting sales tax immediately (I thought I could wait until the next quarter). Make sure you understand not just how to account for sales tax, but also when you're required to start collecting it in each state where you have customers. Economic nexus thresholds (the amount of sales that trigger the requirement to collect) vary from state to state.
Do you need to collect sales tax based on where your business is located or where your customers are? I ship to people all over the country and I'm so confused about this part.
You need to collect based on where your customers are located, not where your business is. This is called "destination-based" taxation and most states use this approach. So if you're in Texas but shipping to a customer in California, you'd charge California sales tax (assuming you have nexus in California). Each state has different rules for when you establish "nexus" (the obligation to collect), but generally it's based on either physical presence (having inventory, employees, etc. in the state) or economic presence (selling over a certain dollar amount or number of transactions to customers in that state).
For sales tax bookkeeping, I use a really simple system in my spreadsheets. I have columns for: - Total sale amount (what customer paid) - Sales tax collected - Net sale (pre-tax amount) Then I transfer the sales tax to a separate savings account each month so I don't accidentally spend it. When it's time to file my quarterly returns, the money is already set aside.
I tried doing spreadsheets but it got so complicated with different tax rates in different counties and cities. What do you do when you have to calculate different rates for different customers?
Natasha Orlova
Something similar happened to me with my unused LLC. Even after filing the zero returns, I discovered I also had to pay the minimum franchise tax in my state (California) which was $800, despite never making a penny with the business. Make sure you check if your state has these kinds of minimum taxes or fees that apply regardless of business activity. That might be what they're trying to collect through the offset.
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Javier Cruz
ā¢Wait WHAT? You had to pay $800 for a business that never operated? That seems absolutely ridiculous! Is that legal?
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Natasha Orlova
ā¢Yes, unfortunately it is legal. California charges an $800 minimum franchise tax to all LLCs registered in the state, whether they do business or not. Many states have similar fees, though California's is notoriously high. The logic behind it is that you're paying for the privilege and benefits of having limited liability protection, regardless of whether you use it. First-year LLCs in California now get a break on this fee, but after that, you owe it annually until you properly dissolve the entity. That's why it's so important to formally dissolve an LLC you're not using - otherwise these fees keep accumulating year after year.
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Emma Wilson
Did you also file your Articles of Dissolution with the Secretary of State? The tax department and Secretary of State are completely separate in most states, and you need to close your LLC with BOTH agencies.
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QuantumQuasar
ā¢I actually haven't done that part yet - I only dealt with the tax returns through the revenue department! Thanks for pointing this out. Looks like I need to file dissolution paperwork with the Secretary of State as well to completely close everything down.
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