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Logan Scott

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're working 3 W2 jobs, you might also be hitting the Additional Medicare Tax threshold without realizing it. For 2025, if your combined income exceeds $200,000 (single) or $250,000 (married filing jointly), you'll owe an additional 0.9% Medicare tax on the amount over that threshold. Unlike regular Medicare tax, there's no employer matching for this additional tax. But also unlike Social Security, your employers won't automatically withhold this correctly if your individual jobs are below the threshold but your combined income exceeds it. You'll need to either make estimated tax payments or be prepared to pay it when you file. Just something else to watch for in your situation that's easy to miss with multiple jobs!

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Thanks for bringing this up! I didn't even think about the Additional Medicare Tax. My combined income from the three jobs will definitely put me over the threshold, but each individual job is under $200k. Will employers automatically start withholding the additional 0.9% once my income at that specific job hits $200k, or do I need to request additional withholding?

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Logan Scott

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Your employer is only required to withhold the Additional Medicare Tax when your wages from that specific employer exceed $200,000. If no single employer pays you more than $200,000, but your combined income exceeds the threshold, none of your employers will withhold this tax automatically. You have two options in this situation: either increase your regular withholding by submitting a new W-4 to one or more employers requesting additional withholding, or make quarterly estimated tax payments to cover the expected Additional Medicare Tax. Either way, you'll need to calculate approximately how much additional tax you'll owe based on how much your combined income will exceed the threshold.

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Chloe Green

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I work 2 W2 jobs that combined put me over the social security cap. Just wanna confirm what I've learned after dealing with this for 3 years now: 1. Each employer pays their 6.2% SS tax on what they pay you, up to the wage base limit for each job 2. You pay 6.2% at each job, but can get refunded for amounts over the limit when you file taxes 3. Employers NEVER get refunded for their portion, even if you work multiple jobs 4. The government essentially collects more total SS tax from people with multiple jobs 5. This is totally legal and by design Honestly it feels unfair but whatever. Just remember to claim back YOUR overpaid portion on your tax return! The first year I didn't realize I could do this and lost out on like $4k.

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Lucas Adams

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You've got it exactly right. I'm a bookkeeper for several small businesses, and I can confirm the employer portion is never refunded, even in multiple-job situations. It's one of those quirks in the tax code that most people never encounter.

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We just implemented a hybrid approach at our company that seems to be working well. Rather than counting lines of code (which is problematic for all the reasons you mentioned), we: 1. Had each development team estimate the percentage of maintenance vs. new development for their area 2. Set up time tracking codes that developers use when logging hours 3. Created a review process where tech leads and finance meet quarterly to review the classifications 4. Document everything with written justifications for how we classified each major component Our CPA seemed satisfied with this approach, though she emphasized that we need to be consistent and have solid documentation of our methodology.

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I like this approach! For the quarterly reviews, are you finding that classifications change over time? For example, does new development eventually become maintenance in subsequent quarters?

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Yes, we've definitely seen that transition from new development to maintenance over time. As features mature, work on them tends to shift from primarily new development to mostly maintenance and refinement. We actually created a simple lifecycle model where new features start as 100% development, then after initial release they transition to a mixed classification, and finally to predominantly maintenance after they've been in production for a certain period. The exact timing varies by feature complexity, but having this framework helps us be more consistent in our classifications over time.

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Has anyone figured out how to handle open source contributions under Section 174? Our developers contribute to open source projects as part of their job, and I have no idea if that should be classified as R&E or something else entirely.

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This is actually a nuanced question. Open source contributions can potentially qualify as R&E if they're related to your business and provide some benefit to your company's products or services. The key is whether these contributions represent research or experimentation that might lead to development of new products or improvements to existing ones.

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One thing to consider - you might be able to deduct the mold inspection as a medical expense if you can document that you did it for health concerns. IRS Publication 502 covers medical expense deductions, and preventative care can sometimes qualify. You'd need to itemize on Schedule A, and only medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of your AGI are deductible. Since you're selling the property, another option is to add the cost of the mold inspection to your basis in the property, which would reduce any potential capital gains tax when you sell. Keep all documentation for this.

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Carmen Diaz

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Thanks for this perspective! Since I'm planning to sell soon, adding it to the basis makes the most sense for me. Do I need any special documentation beyond the receipt and my communication with the builder to prove this should be part of my basis?

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You'll want to keep the inspection report, receipt, and any communication with the builder or HOA that shows the inspection was necessary due to building defects. Also document that other units had confirmed mold issues, as this strengthens your case that the inspection was a necessary expense related to your property. For your basis calculation, maintain a file with all improvement costs, including this inspection. When you sell, you'll use IRS Form 8949 and Schedule D to report the sale, where your adjusted basis will offset the sale proceeds to determine your gain or loss.

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If the builder is asking for a W9, I'm betting they're planning to issue a 1099-MISC in box 3 (Other Income). This is their standard procedure for paying non-employees. But here's the thing - the IRS actually has guidance on reimbursements vs income. If you want to avoid the tax impact entirely, try asking the builder if they'll pay the testing company directly instead of reimbursing you. Then no W9 is needed since you're not receiving any money.

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This is exactly what I did when I had water damage in my apartment! The landlord paid the testing company directly and it saved me from dealing with any tax headaches. Definitely the cleanest solution if the builder is willing to do it.

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This happened to me a couple years ago. Check if your employer correctly adjusted your tax withholding after your raise. Mine didn't, and I got hit with a huge bill. The higher your income goes, the more you need to pay attention to withholding. I'd recommend filling out a new W-4 form and submitting it to your HR department ASAP so this doesn't happen again next year. You might even want to add a little extra withholding to cover the difference.

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Levi Parker

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Is there some calculator you can use to figure out the right withholding amount? I always struggle with this and either get a huge refund or end up owing.

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Yes, the IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that's pretty accurate. Just google "IRS withholding calculator" and it should be the first result. You'll need your most recent pay stub and tax return handy when you use it. The calculator will tell you exactly how to fill out your W-4 based on your specific situation. It even lets you adjust whether you want a bigger refund or more money in each paycheck. I use it every time I get a raise or my life circumstances change, and it's kept my tax bill/refund pretty balanced.

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Libby Hassan

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Have you looked at the actual tax brackets for both years? With $202k income for married filing jointly, part of your income is definitely getting taxed at 24% now. The difference between 22% and 24% brackets might not seem like much, but applied to thousands of dollars it adds up fast. Also check your pay stubs to see if your employer is withholding at the correct rate. Sometimes payroll systems don't automatically adjust withholding when you get promoted.

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Exactly this. I work in payroll and see this all the time. Payroll systems calculate withholding based on the assumption that each check is what you'll make all year. So if you get a raise midyear, the system doesn't know about your previous lower income months and doesn't withhold enough.

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Libby Hassan

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That's a great point about midyear raises. The payroll system treats each check as if you've been making that amount all year, which can lead to significant underwithholding. This is especially true for bonuses or people who get promoted partway through the tax year.

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Yuki Ito

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - watch out for the self-rental rules if your LLC owns any property that's being used by the business. When you create this parent-subsidiary relationship, it can trigger some complicated tax implications for rental payments between your entities. Had this bite me last year and ended up having to amend returns.

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StarStrider

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. My first LLC does own the building where we operate. Would the self-rental rules apply even after the restructuring since I'd still be the ultimate owner through the second LLC?

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Yuki Ito

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Yes, the self-rental rules would still apply even after restructuring. The IRS looks at the ultimate ownership when determining whether these rules kick in. Since you'd still be the ultimate owner of both entities (you own the second LLC which owns the first LLC), any rental payments between them would be subject to scrutiny. The main thing to be aware of is that rental income in this situation is typically treated as non-passive, regardless of your level of participation. This means you can't use these rental losses to offset other passive income. It can significantly impact your tax planning if you were counting on those losses.

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Carmen Lopez

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I actually did this exact restructuring last year. Made my first LLC (manufacturing business) owned by my second LLC (holding company). The key thing I learned: you MUST pay yourself reasonable compensation if you put yourself on payroll! I tried to be cute with a low salary and high distributions and got a nasty letter from the IRS.

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Andre Dupont

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What ratio did you end up using between salary and distributions that the IRS was ok with? I've heard everything from 50/50 to 70/30 but never from someone who actually went through an IRS review.

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