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11 One often overlooked approach is to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online. It's free and walks you through calculating the proper withholding. Make sure your parents have their most recent paystubs and last year's tax return handy when using it. I found it incredibly helpful when my wife and I were in a similar situation - owing about $5,000 because we hadn't updated our W4s after getting married. The estimator asks about both incomes, how often you're paid, and other factors that affect your taxes.
7 I tried using that estimator but got confused halfway through. It asked for projected deductions and I had no idea what to put. Do you just guess? Or is there a way to figure out what deductions they'll have for this year?
11 For the deductions section, you can use last year's deductions as a starting point if your situation hasn't changed much. If your parents take the standard deduction (which most people do now with the higher amounts), you can just select that option without itemizing. If they do itemize, have them look at Schedule A from last year's return and use those figures as estimates, adjusting for any known changes (like if they paid off their mortgage or expect higher medical expenses this year).
5 Don't forget that underpayment penalties can apply if they don't withhold enough throughout the year! To avoid penalties, they generally need to withhold at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (whichever is smaller).
16 Wait, so even if they pay everything they owe by the tax deadline, they can still get penalties if they didn't pay enough during the year?? That seems really unfair!
Quick question about the ITIN process - can I apply for ITINs for my wife and kid before the tax filing deadline? Or do we need to file an extension?
You can actually submit the ITIN applications (Form W-7) along with your tax return. That's what we did last year. BUT since ITIN processing takes time (up to 11 weeks or more), your refund will be delayed until the ITINs are processed. If you're concerned about meeting the deadline, file your return with the W-7 forms by the filing deadline. You don't need to file an extension unless you can't complete your actual tax return by then.
That's super helpful! I was worried we'd miss out on filing jointly this year because of the ITIN timing. Good to know we can submit everything together by the deadline.
Just a heads up for anyone in this situation - making the 6013(g) election was definitely beneficial for us financially, but remember it subjects ALL of your non-resident spouse's worldwide income to US taxation. If your spouse has significant foreign income or assets, you may want to run the numbers both ways. In some cases, especially with higher foreign income, it could be better to file separately with you as head of household (if you qualify) and your spouse as a non-resident. We saved about $3200 by filing jointly, even after including my wife's foreign rental property income, but everyone's situation is different!
If you filed electronically through any major tax software (even if someone else prepared it for you), you might be able to access your returns that way. Ask your preparer which software they used. TurboTax, H&R Block, TaxAct, etc. all store your returns in your account. Also, check your email from around tax time in 2022 and 2023 - you might have received a confirmation email with a PDF copy of your return attached or a link to access it.
Good idea about checking emails! I just did a search through my inbox for "tax return" and "1040" and found an email from April 2022 that has my 2021 return attached, but nothing for 2022 or 2023. I'm going to try reaching out to coworkers who might know what software our tax preparer used.
Glad that helped with at least one year! Another thing to try is looking at your bank statements from when you paid to have your taxes done. The charge might list the name of the tax software, not just the preparer's business name. Also, if you received tax refunds for those years, check your bank deposits around tax time - the deposit details sometimes include information about which service processed your return.
Have you checked with your spouse? My husband and I had a similar situation, and it turned out he had the tax returns saved in a folder on his work computer that he had completely forgotten about. Also check any cloud storage you might use - Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. If all else fails, the IRS transcript option others mentioned is definitely the way to go. Just verify with your mortgage lender exactly what they need - some are fine with transcripts while others want the complete 1040 with all schedules.
This happened to me too! Found our returns in my husband's email (he had forwarded them to himself from his accountant and then completely forgot). Always check with your spouse first before going through the hassle of IRS requests.
My wife and I have been searching everywhere! We looked through all our devices, cloud storage, and email accounts. I even found some older tax documents from 2020, but nothing for 2022 or 2023. I'm starting to think our tax preparer never actually gave us copies, which is frustrating. I've called our mortgage lender, and they confirmed they need the actual 1040 forms, not just transcripts. They need to verify some specific deductions that apparently don't show up on the transcript. Going to try the IRS Form 4506 route and see if I can get expedited processing.
My accountant told me that for depreciation basis errors, there's actually a threshold the IRS uses internally for requiring amendments. He wouldn't give me an exact number but said for residential rental property, errors under $1,000 in tax impact are typically handled through basis adjustment going forward. Keep really good records though! Document the original incorrect basis, the correct basis, and your calculation method for adjusting the remaining depreciable value. Include a statement with your return briefly explaining the correction. The one warning he gave me is that if you ever sell the property, that's when these corrections become more important because the basis affects your capital gain. But for ongoing depreciation, small corrections can usually be handled prospectively.
This is super helpful info! Do you know if I should include any specific form or attachment to this year's return to document the correction? Or just keep records in my personal files?
You don't need to file a specific form for small corrections if you're not doing the formal Form 3115 method change. However, tax professionals generally recommend attaching a simple statement to your return that explains the correction. Keep more detailed records in your personal files showing calculations of the correct basis, the amount of excess depreciation previously taken, and how you're adjusting going forward. If you use tax software, there's usually a way to include a PDF attachment or statement with your e-filed return. This creates a record within the IRS system that you've disclosed the adjustment, which helps demonstrate good faith compliance.
Question about all this - does it matter what kind of asset we're talking about? Like is there a difference between correcting building depreciation vs appliances or furniture in a rental?
Yes, it does matter what type of asset you're correcting. Building depreciation errors generally have more significant long-term impacts because residential buildings are depreciated over 27.5 years, while appliances and furniture are typically 5-7 year properties. For shorter-lived assets like appliances, a basis correction is less critical since you'll fully depreciate them sooner anyway. With buildings, the correction affects many more tax years. Also, the IRS tends to scrutinize building depreciation more closely during audits because the dollar amounts are typically larger and extend over decades.
Mei Chen
One thing nobody mentioned - make sure you're actually looking at the right tax year when checking your status. My husband and I got confused because we were looking at 2023 instead of 2024 tax year on the IRS portal. Also, if you owe, setting up a payment plan online is usually pretty straightforward once your return is processed. The online payment agreement tool is actually one of the better parts of the IRS website lol.
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Liam O'Sullivan
β’How much is the fee to set up a payment plan online? Is it better to just pay in full if you can?
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Mei Chen
β’The fee for setting up an online payment plan is currently $31 if you do direct debit payments. It jumps to $130 if you pay by check or money order. So yeah, if you can pay in full, that's always best to avoid fees and interest. Always better to pay in full if possible since the IRS charges both setup fees AND ongoing interest for payment plans. The interest compounds daily too, which adds up fast.
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Amara Okonkwo
Anyone know if owing taxes one year affects your refund the next year? Like if my sister owes this year but might get a refund next year, will they just keep her refund?
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Ethan Campbell
β’Yes, if you still have an outstanding tax debt when you file next year and are due a refund, the IRS will automatically apply that refund to your outstanding debt. It's called a tax offset. They'll send you a notice explaining that they applied your refund to previous tax debt.
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Amara Okonkwo
β’Thanks for explaining! That's actually not terrible then, kinda like an automatic payment I guess. At least the money's not just disappearing into a black hole lol.
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