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Have you considered filing for an Offer in Compromise (OIC)? With that amount of debt and if your financial situation truly doesn't allow you to pay it all, the IRS might accept a settlement for less than the full amount. You'll need to complete Form 656 and Form 433-A (or 433-B for businesses). The success rate isn't super high, but if you can demonstrate that you'll never reasonably be able to pay the full amount, it's worth trying. I had a client with $120k in tax debt get it settled for about $30k through this process. Just make sure all your documentation is thorough.
I've heard about OIC but wasn't sure if I'd qualify. Do they look at your assets too? I own my house with some equity in it and have a couple of vehicles. Would that disqualify me?
Yes, they absolutely look at your assets. The IRS typically expects you to liquidate or borrow against assets with equity before they'll approve an OIC. They calculate your "reasonable collection potential" based on your income, expenses, and asset equity. For your home, they'll consider the quick sale value (usually 80% of market value) minus any mortgages and exemption amounts. For vehicles, they'll look at equity beyond what's needed for basic transportation. Having assets with equity doesn't automatically disqualify you, but you'll need to account for that equity in your offer amount.
Has anyone tried doing a partial pay installment agreement? I heard its easier to qualify for than an OIC but still lets you pay less than the full amount?
I got a Partial Payment Installment Agreement (PPIA) last year. It's definitely easier than OIC but still required full financial disclosure with Form 433-F. The key difference is that with PPIA, you make payments based on what you can afford until the collection statute expires (usually 10 years from assessment). After that, the remaining balance is forgiven.
Just to add another perspective - I had a similar situation but with even larger losses (about $42,000 from some terrible stock picks in 2023). My accountant explained it like this: 1. First, use your capital loss carryover to offset ANY capital gains in the current year (unlimited amount) 2. Then, you can use up to $3,000 of remaining losses to offset ordinary income 3. Any unused losses get carried forward to future years This is actually a really important distinction because many people think the $3,000 is the total you can use each year, which isn't correct. If you have $10,000 in capital gains this year, you could potentially use $13,000 of your carryover ($10,000 for the gains plus $3,000 against ordinary income).
Does the ordering matter? Like what if I have both short-term and long-term losses carried over, and both short-term and long-term gains this year? Is there a specific way these have to be applied?
Yes, the ordering definitely matters because it can affect your tax rate. The IRS has specific rules for how losses and gains are netted against each other. First, short-term losses offset short-term gains, and long-term losses offset long-term gains. Then, if you have net losses in one category and net gains in the other, those net figures are used to offset each other. This is important because short-term gains are taxed at your ordinary income rate, while long-term gains get preferential tax rates.
Quick question - if i understand right, I can only carry over losses if I report them in the year they happen right? I had some stocks that tanked in 2023 but I didnt sell them until this year (2024) so I get the loss for 2024 taxes not 2023?
You're absolutely right. You have to actually sell the investment (realize the loss) to claim it on your taxes. Holding onto stocks that have gone down in value doesn't create a tax loss you can claim - it's only when you sell them that the loss becomes "realized" and can be used on your tax return.
Thanks for confirming! That explains why I couldn't find any loss carryover from last year. At least i'll be able to use this year's losses to offset the gains I had earlier in the year, plus the $3000 against regular income.
Just adding another perspective - I worked for a tax preparation company that specialized in international students. The $680 refund is actually pretty typical for F1/J1 students who worked summer jobs. As someone mentioned, you're exempt from FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), which is about 7.65% of your earnings. If you worked and made around $8-10k over the summer, getting $680 back is totally reasonable. Many companies do receive the refund directly and then distribute it to you minus their fee (which should have been disclosed upfront).
Thanks for the insight! I did make around $8,900 over the summer, so that percentage makes sense. Do you think sharing my bank info with them is safe? That's my main concern honestly.
Sharing your bank info with a legitimate tax service is generally safe. They're handling millions of transactions and have security protocols in place. Account and routing numbers are actually printed on every check you write, so they're not your most sensitive financial information. That said, only provide this info through their secure portal, never via email or text. And if you're still uncomfortable, you can absolutely request a paper check instead as someone suggested earlier. It'll take longer but might give you more peace of mind. Most reputable companies offer both options.
Make sure the company isn't charging you a "refund transfer fee" or similar! Many tax prep companies targeting international students charge extra fees for "processing" your refund that aren't mentioned upfront. I got charged $40 just to receive my own money!
Don't forget to save around 30% of your freelance income for taxes! I learned this the hard way my first year. The 1040-ES helps you pay quarterly, but many newbies (including myself) underestimate how much they'll actually owe. Self-employment tax (15.3%) + regular income tax can add up fast. Also, track EVERYTHING for deductions - home office, software, equipment, professional development, portion of internet/phone bills. I use a separate credit card just for business expenses to make it easier at tax time. This can significantly reduce your taxable income.
Thanks for this tip! Does it matter what method I use to track expenses? Like can I just keep a spreadsheet or do I need special software? Also, for the home office deduction, is it better to do the simplified method or the regular one?
A simple spreadsheet works perfectly fine for tracking expenses - just make sure to keep all receipts too (digital copies are okay). I personally use a Google Sheet where I log the date, amount, vendor, and category of each expense. Some people prefer apps like QuickBooks Self-Employed or FreshBooks, but they're not necessary when you're just starting out. For the home office deduction, it really depends on your situation. The simplified method is just $5 per square foot up to 300 square feet (max $1,500 deduction), which is super easy. The regular method can potentially get you a larger deduction if you have a big office or high home expenses, but requires much more detailed record-keeping and calculations. I'd start with the simplified method your first year, then see if it's worth doing the math for the regular method next year.
Anyone know if it's too late to start making quarterly payments for 2025 if I started doing gig work in January but didn't know about these forms until now in August? Will I get penalized?
You can still catch up! Make a payment now that covers what you should have paid for Q1 (April) and Q2 (June). Then stay on track with Q3 (Sept) and Q4 (Jan). You might face a small penalty for the late payments, but it's WAY better than waiting until tax time to pay it all! The penalty is basically an interest charge.
Katherine Harris
Just to add some insight as someone who's been through this - Form 6765 is where you'll find evidence of R&D credits being claimed, but if you want to check if your activities qualify, the IRS uses a "four-part test": 1. Permitted Purpose: Developing new or improved functionality, performance, reliability, or quality 2. Technological Uncertainty: Uncertainty about capability, method, or design 3. Process of Experimentation: Systematic evaluation of alternatives 4. Technological in Nature: Based on physical sciences, engineering, computer science, etc. For architecture, things like developing new building systems, environmental control methods, or unique structural solutions often qualify. Just designing pretty buildings doesn't count!
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Alexis Robinson
ā¢This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you! I've checked our returns and there's no Form 6765 included anywhere, so I guess we're not claiming these credits. Based on that 4-part test, I'm pretty sure at least some of our projects would qualify. We do a lot of work on complex structures with unique sustainability challenges that require significant testing and prototyping. Do you know if there are downsides to claiming these credits? Like does it increase audit risk or anything like that?
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Katherine Harris
ā¢There is a slightly increased audit risk since R&D credits are scrutinized more carefully than some other deductions, but it's manageable with proper documentation. The key is to maintain thorough records of your qualifying activities - project plans, design iterations, testing results, emails discussing technical challenges, etc. The potential benefits usually far outweigh the risks. If you're confident your activities meet the four-part test and you have documentation to support it, don't let audit concerns prevent you from claiming legitimate credits. Just make sure you're working with someone experienced in R&D credits for architectural firms specifically, as they can help structure your documentation properly.
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Madison Allen
My architecture firm has been claiming these for years. The secret is proper documentation during projects! Start tracking time spent on innovative problem-solving activities NOW, even before you talk to your CPA. We had our team leads fill out simple weekly logs noting any time spent on "technical uncertainty resolution" and it made claiming the credits so much easier.
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Joshua Wood
ā¢What software do you use to track this? We're a small engineering firm and our time tracking is pretty basic right now.
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