This has been an incredibly educational thread! As someone who's been wrestling with the same decision for my 4 rental properties, I'm grateful for all the detailed explanations here. What's become crystal clear is that the "S Corp saves taxes" advice that gets thrown around online is dangerously oversimplified when it comes to rental properties. The reasonable salary requirements alone could wipe out any potential savings for most small-scale landlords. I'm particularly intrigued by Isabel's dual S Corp structure, but it sounds like that's really only viable once you hit a much larger scale (she mentioned 70+ units). For those of us with smaller portfolios, the administrative complexity and costs would likely eat up any tax benefits. One thing I'm still curious about - has anyone dealt with the qualified business income (QBI) deduction under Section 199A for rental activities? I've read that rental income can qualify for the 20% deduction in certain circumstances, but the rules seem complex. Does entity choice (LLC vs S Corp) affect QBI eligibility for rental income? Also, for those who mentioned getting IRS clarification directly - did you find the agents knowledgeable about these nuanced entity structure questions, or did you get conflicting answers from different agents? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to get official guidance or if I should just stick with professional tax advice.

This thread has been a goldmine of information! As a tax professional who works with real estate investors daily, I want to add a few clarifications that might help others avoid common pitfalls. First, regarding the original question about the "21% Passive Investment Tax" - this appears to be a confusion between several different tax concepts. There's no specific 21% tax on passive investment income for S Corps. You might be thinking of the corporate tax rate (which doesn't apply to S Corps) or mixing up the Net Investment Income Tax (3.8%) with other provisions. Second, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but bears repeating: the "reasonable salary" requirement for S Corps is often the deal-breaker for rental property businesses. If you're actively managing properties, you're required to pay yourself a salary for that work, which subjects those earnings to employment taxes. This often negates the self-employment tax savings that make S Corps attractive for other business types. For most rental property owners with fewer than 10-15 properties, I typically recommend: - Single-member LLC (disregarded entity) for simplicity - Multi-member LLC (partnership) if you have investors or want more complex allocation options - Only consider S Corp structures once you have significant scale AND mixed active/passive income streams The dual S Corp structure mentioned by Isabel is sophisticated but requires substantial scale to justify the administrative complexity and costs. It's definitely not a DIY approach and needs ongoing professional oversight to maintain compliance. One final note on state considerations - don't underestimate how much state tax rules can affect your entity choice. Some states have franchise taxes on entities, others don't recognize federal S Corp elections, and a few have unique rules for rental income taxation. Always factor in your state's specific requirements before making entity decisions.

The timing discrepancy between letter date and actual mailing is a huge issue that more people need to know about. I had a similar experience with a CP503 - letter dated February 15th but the IRS agent confirmed it wasn't actually processed and mailed until February 28th, then took another 12 days to reach me. That's nearly a month from the "official" date! The online account tip is gold - I now check my IRS account weekly during tax season. You can also sign up for email notifications when new documents are available, which has saved me twice from missing deadlines due to postal delays.

The mail delays are absolutely real and getting worse. I just dealt with a CP14 that was dated January 28th but didn't arrive until February 22nd - that's 25 days! What's really frustrating is that the IRS starts calculating interest and penalties from the original assessment date, not from when you actually receive the notice. I ended up having to pay an additional $47 in interest because of the postal delay. Pro tip: if you're expecting any IRS correspondence, start checking your online account daily and calling them if something seems overdue. The agents have been pretty understanding about the mail issues, but you have to be proactive about it. Don't wait until you're past a deadline to reach out.

As someone new to this community, I've been following this entire discussion with fascination! What an incredible resource this thread has become for families dealing with dependency rule confusion. The transformation from the original panic about cutting income by 80% to multiple success stories of students keeping their full earnings while parents still claim them really highlights how much misinformation exists around these tax rules. It's eye-opening to see how many families are apparently making major financial sacrifices based on incomplete understanding of the dependency requirements. What I find most valuable is how this discussion has evolved from just answering the original question to providing a comprehensive guide for anyone in similar situations. The step-by-step approach everyone has outlined - gather your financial information, use IRS Worksheet 3-1 to calculate the support test, consider the education credits angle, and don't forget to factor in fair market housing value - creates a clear roadmap for families to follow. The emphasis on getting accurate information before making drastic decisions really resonates with me. Work experience and professional development are so valuable during college years, and it would be tragic to sacrifice that based on tax myths. This thread proves that with the right knowledge and tools, most families can find solutions that work for everyone involved. Thank you to everyone who shared their expertise and real experiences here - you've created an invaluable resource that will probably help countless families avoid unnecessary financial stress!

As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful for this comprehensive discussion! I've been lurking and reading through all the responses because my family is dealing with almost the exact same situation right now. My parents were also panicking about my part-time job income potentially affecting their ability to claim me as a dependent, and they were considering asking me to drastically reduce my hours. After reading through this entire thread, I realize we were operating under the same misconceptions that seem to affect so many families. The key insight about the full-time student exception has been a game-changer for my understanding. I had no idea that the $4,700 income limit doesn't apply to full-time students under 24 - it's entirely about the support test instead. This completely changes how we need to approach our situation. I'm planning to sit down with my parents this weekend and work through IRS Worksheet 3-1 that several people have mentioned. Based on the success stories shared here, I'm optimistic that we'll discover they're already providing more than 50% of my total support when we factor in tuition, housing value, and other expenses properly. What gives me the most confidence is seeing how many people in this thread were able to keep their full income while their parents still claimed them as dependents. The work experience and professional development opportunities from my job are really important to me, so I'm relieved to learn that I might not have to sacrifice them based on tax misconceptions. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and real-world experiences here - this discussion has probably saved my family from making an unnecessary and costly decision!

So I actually work in financial services (though not for TurboTax, don't worry 😂) and can share some insider knowledge. For the 2024 filing season, TurboTax's refund advance program is particularly finicky. I helped my brother-in-law with his taxes last weekend, and the refund advance option appeared ONLY after he: 1. Selected the TurboTax Deluxe option ($59) or higher 2. Qualified for a refund over $1,000 3. Passed their soft credit check (which doesn't affect your credit score) 4. Reached the EXACT screen where you select your refund delivery method Here's the kicker - if you're using the free version, you won't see it at all. And if you're a higher income filer (over $100K AGI), they also won't show it regardless of your refund amount. It's like they're playing hide-and-seek with this feature! If you've already passed that screen, you might be out of luck unless you start over. But honestly, waiting the extra week for your full refund might be worth saving the upgrade fee.

I went through this exact same frustration last month! 😤 After reading through everyone's responses here, it sounds like there are several factors at play. I ended up calling TurboTax directly (took forever to get through) and they confirmed that the refund advance is only available with their paid versions AND you have to meet their eligibility requirements. Here's what I learned from my experience: - You need TurboTax Deluxe ($59) or higher - the free version doesn't offer it - Your AGI needs to be under $100,000 - Expected refund should be at least $500-$1,000 - It appears right after your refund calculation, before payment method selection - If you started your return before January 4th, you might need to start over I ended up just going with the regular direct deposit since I didn't want to pay the upgrade fee. Got my refund in about 10 days which wasn't too bad. Sometimes these "convenience" features end up costing more than they're worth! Hope this helps and good luck with your car repair! 🚗

Has anyone tried just showing up in person to get their W-2? I'm tempted to just walk into my old job and ask for it directly since they're ignoring my emails.

Just wanted to add another perspective from someone who dealt with this exact situation last year. I had 4 different employers in 2024 and left two of them on terrible terms (one was a toxic startup, the other had a manager who was stealing tips). Here's what worked for me: First, I gathered all my final pay stubs since they contain most of the info you need. Then I created a simple spreadsheet tracking each employer - company name, dates worked, HR contact info, payroll company if known, and whether I received the W-2 or not. For the jobs I left on good terms, I proactively emailed their HR departments in early January with my new address. For the toxic ones, I waited until after January 31st and then used the IRS complaint process when they didn't send my forms. One thing that really helped was checking if any of my former employers used third-party payroll companies like ADP or Paychex. Even after you're terminated, you can sometimes still access your W-2s through their employee portals using your old login credentials. Worth trying before dealing with your actual former employers! The key is being proactive and having multiple backup plans. Don't wait until the last minute to start chasing down these forms.