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Lauren Wood

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Just wanted to add my two cents - I had the exact same issue with after-tax 401(k) contributions being reported as taxable on my 1099-R when rolled to a Roth IRA. In my case, I found that my plan administrator had actually maintained separate accounting for my after-tax contributions, but their reporting system wasn't configured to show this correctly on the 1099-R. What worked for me was requesting my "contribution history statement" from the 401(k) administrator. This document showed the breakdown of pre-tax vs. after-tax contributions over the years. I attached this to my return along with Form 8606 and a written explanation. No issues from the IRS, no audit, and I correctly avoided paying double tax on my after-tax contributions. Sometimes the documentation is available, just not in the obvious places!

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Thank you for this suggestion! I hadn't thought about requesting a contribution history statement. Did you have to specifically ask for the "contribution history statement" by that exact name, or was there another term for it? And how long did it take them to provide it?

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Lauren Wood

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I asked specifically for a "contribution history report showing the breakdown between pre-tax and after-tax contributions." Some plan administrators call it different things - contribution history statement, basis statement, or non-taxable investment summary. Be very clear that you need documentation showing your after-tax contribution basis. It took about a week for them to generate the report in my case. They initially tried to tell me they couldn't provide it, but when I mentioned I needed it for tax filing purposes to correctly report the rollover, they found a way to generate it. Be persistent - this documentation exists somewhere in their system, even if the frontline customer service reps don't immediately know how to access it.

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Ellie Lopez

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One important thing to remember with these after-tax to Roth rollovers - the timing matters for reporting purposes. Did your rollover happen as a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer, or did you receive a check that you then deposited into your Roth IRA? If it was a direct transfer, the reporting is more straightforward. If you received a check, even if you deposited it within the 60-day window, the reporting gets more complicated. Either way, Form 8606 is your friend here. Also, if you had ANY earnings on those after-tax contributions (even a few dollars), those earnings are taxable when rolled to a Roth. Make sure you're only excluding the actual contribution basis from taxation, not any growth that occurred before the rollover.

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This is a really good point about the earnings! How do you determine what portion was earnings if the 1099-R doesn't break it down correctly? Is it something you can calculate yourself from statements?

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Just wanted to add something important - if your father had a CSRS (Civil Service Retirement System) pension rather than FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System), the tax treatment is slightly different. CSRS employees contributed more of their own money to the pension. You can tell which system he was in by looking at his 1099-R - there's a code that indicates CSRS vs FERS. This matters because it affects how much of the pension payments are considered taxable vs. return of contributions.

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How do I tell from the 1099-R which system he was in? I'm looking at the form now but don't see anything that specifically says CSRS or FERS.

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Look at Box 7 on the 1099-R, which shows the distribution code. For federal pensions, you'll typically see code "7" which means normal distribution. More importantly, examine the payer information at the top of the 1099-R. If it mentions "CSRS" specifically, that's your answer. If you still can't tell, another approach is to check if there's a Social Security benefit. FERS recipients typically receive Social Security benefits alongside their pension, while CSRS employees generally don't (unless they had other qualifying employment). So if your father received both an OPM pension AND Social Security, he was likely under FERS.

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Just a quick tip - print out IRS Publication 721 "Tax Guide to U.S. Civil Service Retirement Benefits". It has EVERYTHING you need about federal pensions and taxation.

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StarSurfer

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That publication is super helpful but also really confusing for beginners. I found the worksheets for calculating the taxable portion almost impossible to follow without help.

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Dylan Wright

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Make sure you're tracking everything diligently! I sell crafts online and got audited last year because my reported income didn't match what the platforms reported to the IRS. Nightmare scenario. I recommend getting a separate bank account for your business transactions and using accounting software (even a basic one) from day one. Also keep receipts for EVERYTHING, even small purchases.

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Thanks for the advice! Do you recommend any specific accounting software that's not too complicated for beginners? Also, can I just open a regular personal checking account for this or do I need a formal "business" account?

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Dylan Wright

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For beginners, I'd recommend something simple like Wave (it's free) or QuickBooks Self-Employed if you want something more robust but still user-friendly. Both let you track income and expenses, and can generate reports you'll need for taxes. For the bank account, a regular personal checking account works fine when you're starting out, but open one that's ONLY used for your business transactions. This makes tracking much easier and creates a clear separation that's helpful if you ever get audited. As you grow, you might want to upgrade to a proper business account for more features, but that's not necessary right away.

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Sofia Torres

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Don't forget about state taxes too! Everyone always focuses on federal but depending on your state, you might need to collect and remit sales tax on digital products. Each state has different rules about this. And some states have their own self-employment taxes on top of federal.

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This is so confusing... how do you even figure out which states you need to pay tax to if you're selling online to people all over?

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One thing to watch out for with QBI - if you do this same freelance work for the same company that employs you regularly, the IRS might consider this as trying to reclassify wages as contractor income to get the QBI deduction. Theres some anti-abuse rules they have. Not saying this applies to ur situation necessarily, but be careful if your freelance work and regular job are for the same company or very related companies. The IRS specifically looks for people trying to convert W-2 wages into 1099 income to get QBI.

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Ethan Wilson

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That's actually a really good point I hadn't considered. My freelance work is for a completely different company than my main employer - they're not related at all. They're in the same industry but totally separate businesses. Does that still raise red flags?

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You should be fine if they're completely separate companies. The IRS is mainly looking for situations where someone is getting both W-2 and 1099 income from the same business entity or related entities (like subsidiaries or affiliates). Since your freelance work is for a different company in the same industry, that's a common and legitimate arrangement. Just make sure the work arrangements are clearly different - like the freelance company doesn't control when or how you do the work the way an employer would.

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Is there any minimum amount of freelance income needed to qualify for QBI? I only made about $3,000 from my side gig last year but would love to get that 20% deduction.

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NeonNova

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There's no minimum income requirement to qualify for the QBI deduction! Your $3,000 in freelance income would be eligible for the 20% deduction, giving you about $600 off your taxable income. It's not a huge amount but definitely worth claiming. The main requirements are that it's qualified business income (which freelance work on a 1099-NEC typically is) and that you're under the income thresholds (which at $3,000 you definitely are). Make sure you're reporting it on Schedule C even for that small amount.

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Diego Rojas

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Just wanted to add that if the whole life policy lapsed because of insufficient cash value to cover the loan, you might want to check if your parents ever received annual statements showing the declining cash value. Insurance companies are required to send these statements. Also, in some states, there are regulations requiring multiple notices before allowing a policy to lapse, especially for older policyholders. You might want to check your state's department of insurance website for the requirements. If the company didn't follow proper notification procedures, you might have grounds to request they reverse the lapse and reinstate the policy.

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Emma Davis

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Thanks for this suggestion! I've been digging through their paperwork and found they actually have very few statements from the last 5 years. I'm wondering if these notices went to an old address or something. Would the insurance company have records of what notices they sent and when? And if they didn't properly notify, what's the best way to approach them about it?

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Diego Rojas

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Insurance companies absolutely keep records of all notices sent, especially important ones like impending lapse notifications. Request a complete communication history from the company - they're required to maintain these records. If you find they didn't properly notify your parents according to state regulations, start with a formal written complaint to the company referencing the specific notification requirements they failed to meet. Include a clear request to reverse the lapse and reinstate the policy. If they don't respond appropriately, file a complaint with your state's insurance commissioner or department of insurance. These regulatory agencies take notification failures seriously, especially with older policyholders.

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Has anyone successfully challenged a 1099-R from a lapsed policy? I'm in a similar boat but with a universal life policy that apparently lapsed while I was overseas for work. Insurance company says there's nothing they can do now that the 1099-R has been issued.

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My father-in-law managed to get his partially reversed. The key was finding documentation showing the insurance company had been sending notices to an outdated address despite having his current contact info on file for other communications. He filed a complaint with the state insurance commissioner and eventually got about 60% of the taxable amount waived. The company reinstated his policy with reduced benefits rather than treating it as fully lapsed.

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