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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that there's a crucial difference between RSUs (Restricted Stock Units) and ESPPs. With RSUs, there's typically withholding at vesting because that's a taxable event (ordinary income). With ESPPs, taxation gets more complicated. If your ESPP has a "lookback provision" where you get to purchase at a discount from either the beginning or end of the offering period (whichever is lower), there can be additional tax implications. The discount is always taxable as ordinary income, but depending on whether you do a qualifying or disqualifying disposition, the timing and treatment of taxes varies. From what you've described, it sounds like your company might be withholding for the discount portion, but calling it capital gains tax, which is confusing you. I'd ask for documentation that specifically explains what portion of your purchase is being taxed and under what section of the tax code.
Can you explain what a "qualifying or disqualifying disposition" means? The tax document they sent me does mention something about a "disqualifying disposition" but doesn't explain what that means.
A qualifying disposition means you held the ESPP shares for both: 1) at least 1 year after the purchase date, and 2) at least 2 years after the offering date (when the purchase period began). If you meet both holding periods, you get more favorable tax treatment. A disqualifying disposition means you sold before meeting either of those holding periods. In that case, the entire discount gets taxed as ordinary income. It's strange they're mentioning "disqualifying disposition" if you haven't sold yet. That term typically only applies when you actually sell the shares. This reinforces my suspicion that there's a communication problem or misunderstanding with your benefits department. I'd specifically ask them why they're referencing a disqualifying disposition when you still hold the shares.
Has anyone considered that this might actually be a prepayment of taxes that the company is facilitating, rather than requiring? Some companies offer this as a service to help employees avoid a big tax bill later. If the ESPP discount is substantial, or if there was a big jump in stock price during the offering period, there could be a significant taxable event even before selling. The company might be offering to withhold taxes now to help spread out the impact rather than having employees face a surprise tax bill next April. I'd ask if this withholding is mandatory or optional. If it's optional, it might actually be a beneficial service they're providing.
This is an excellent point. My company does something similar - they provide an optional tax withholding program for equity compensation. They calculate the projected tax impact and let us choose whether to have extra withholding throughout the year. It's actually really helpful for cash flow management.
Something no one's mentioned yet - have you looked into setting up an S-Corp election for your LLC? At your income level, it might save you significant self-employment taxes. With an S-Corp, you'd pay yourself a reasonable salary (subject to FICA taxes) and take the rest as distributions (not subject to self-employment tax). Could save you thousands depending on your situation.
I've heard about the S-Corp option but wasn't sure if my income was high enough to make it worth the extra paperwork and accounting costs. What's considered the breakeven point where it starts making sense financially?
The breakeven point varies depending on your specific situation and local costs, but generally around $40,000-60,000 in profit is where many tax professionals suggest considering it. At your $52,500 income level, you're in that range. The main calculation is comparing what you'll save in self-employment taxes versus the additional costs. You'll need to file Form 1120-S annually, likely pay for payroll services (roughly $50-100/month), and possibly higher accountant fees. Most people find it worthwhile when they can save at least $2,000 annually in taxes after covering these extra expenses.
Don't forget to check if you qualify for the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction! As a sole proprietor, you might be able to deduct up to 20% of your qualified business income. This is a big tax break that a lot of people miss.
The QBI deduction is amazing but gets complicated fast. I thought I didn't qualify but my tax person found a way to make it work by adjusting some of my expense categories. Ended up saving almost $2k last year!
Just FYI for anyone confused - even if you don't get a 1099-K because you're under the $5000 threshold, you still need to report the income if it was business income (like if you bought stuff intending to resell it for profit). But if you're just selling your own personal items for less than you originally paid, that's generally not taxable income. I learned this the hard way last year when I overpaid on taxes because I reported everything from my PayPal.
How do you prove something was a personal item vs inventory if you get audited though? I sell a mix of both and don't keep great records.
This is definitely a tricky area. For personal items, having original receipts or some documentation of what you initially paid would be ideal, but I know that's not always realistic. What I do now is keep a simple spreadsheet where I note which items are from my personal collection (with approximate purchase date and estimated original cost) versus items I bought specifically to resell. I also take photos of all personal items before listing them, which shows they were used. For business inventory, I keep all receipts and store them separately. Even basic documentation like this can help support your case if questions ever come up.
Does anyone know if the payment apps will still send out 1099-Ks at the $600 threshold anyway, even though the IRS is using $5000? My Depop is linked to PayPal and I've made about $2300 this year.
My accountant said some payment platforms might still send them at $600 because their systems were already updated for that threshold before the IRS made the change. He said to just keep good records either way.
Has anyone here tried using a sales tax compliance software like Avalara or TaxJar? I'm debating whether it's worth the monthly cost for my small business or if I should just handle it manually until I grow bigger.
I use TaxJar for my online shop (about $60k/year in sales). It's definitely an expense but saves me tons of time. The automated filing feature is worth every penny during tax season. I tried doing it manually for the first year and spent entire weekends just on sales tax returns.
If you're just starting out, might be overkill. I use a spreadsheet to track sales by state, and only file in 3 states currently. Once you hit 5+ states, the software becomes more worth it. A middle ground could be using something like taxr.ai to monitor your nexus thresholds, then switching to automated filing software once you have multiple state obligations.
One thing nobody mentioned yet is the difference between origin-based and destination-based sales tax. Some states (like Texas) are origin-based, meaning you charge the tax rate of your location. Most states are destination-based, meaning you charge the rate of your customer's address. Makes a huge difference in how you set up your shopping cart! Just when you think you understand sales tax, there's always another layer of complexity...
Ugh, seriously?? I didn't even know there was a difference! My shopping cart on my website just has a flat tax rate setting. Sounds like I need to look into tax calculation plugins. Does anyone know if Shopify handles this automatically or do I need additional apps?
Shopify has basic tax calculation built in, but it's not perfect for complex situations. They automatically calculate rates based on customer address, but if you need more sophisticated rules (like product-specific exemptions or detailed nexus settings), you might want a tax app like TaxJar or Avalara's integration. The basic Shopify tax settings work fine for most small sellers though!
Amy Fleming
Just a heads up, don't forget about state taxes too! Depending on where you live, you might owe state income tax on your babysitting income as well. Most states follow similar rules to the federal government regarding self-employment, but some have different thresholds or requirements.
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Tyler Murphy
ā¢Wait I didn't even think about state taxes! Do I need to file a separate form for that or is it all part of the same tax return?
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Amy Fleming
ā¢It depends on your state. Most states have their own version of Schedule C that you'll fill out along with your state tax return. You'll generally use the same income and expense information that you report on your federal Schedule C. Some states also have a lower threshold for filing requirements than the federal $400 self-employment threshold, so even if you somehow made less than $400, you might still need to file a state return. Check your specific state's tax department website for the exact requirements and forms you'll need.
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Alice Pierce
Just wondering, does anyone know if the tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block can handle this kind of situation easily? I'm in a similar boat with some freelance work and not sure if I should try to do it myself or use software.
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Esteban Tate
ā¢Most tax software can definitely handle self-employment income. I used TurboTax last year for my tutoring side gig and it walked me through everything step by step. It asked about expenses and calculated all the self-employment tax automatically. Just make sure you get the Self-Employed version, not the basic one.
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