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IRS hit me with $20,000 penalties for not filing taxes for our LLC - help needed!

Title: IRS hit me with $20,000 penalties for not filing taxes for our LLC - help needed! 1 I'm in a complete panic right now! Just got slammed with penalties from the IRS - approximately $25,000 for not filing the proper tax forms for our LLC over the past five years. Our accountant had been filing everything under Schedule C the entire time, and we just discovered that was completely wrong for our situation. Apparently, since we're a partnership LLC (my husband and I are the only two members), we should have been filing a completely different form. I feel sick to my stomach about this whole mess. Is there any way to get these penalties waived or reduced? We honestly had no idea we were filing incorrectly - we trusted our accountant to handle everything properly. Any advice would be incredibly helpful because this amount would absolutely wreck us financially.

19 Former tax preparer here. Make sure that when you're submitting your abatement request, you specifically cite Treasury Regulation 1.6664-4, which covers reasonable cause due to reliance on a tax professional. You need to demonstrate three things: 1) The adviser was a competent professional with sufficient expertise 2) You disclosed all relevant facts to the adviser 3) You actually relied in good faith on the adviser's judgment Also, get a statement from your accountant acknowledging they made the filing determination. This significantly strengthens your case.

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5 Would the accountant be liable for any of the penalties since they're the ones who made the mistake? I'm dealing with something similar where my accountant completely missed reporting my crypto transactions.

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19 The accountant generally wouldn't be directly liable to the IRS for the penalties, as the ultimate responsibility for tax compliance falls on the taxpayer. However, you may have a potential claim against the accountant for professional negligence or malpractice. For your crypto situation, that's a bit different. Cryptocurrency reporting requirements have evolved rapidly, and there's been some confusion among tax professionals. Still, if your accountant knew about your crypto transactions and failed to report them properly, you should document this thoroughly when requesting abatement, and consider whether their error rises to the level of professional negligence.

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8 I feel your pain! My husband and I had a similar issue with our LLC last year. Our saving grace was IRS Revenue Procedure 84-35, which provides special penalty relief for small partnerships (10 or fewer partners). Since you mentioned it's just you and your husband, you might qualify. This is IN ADDITION to the reasonable cause argument others have mentioned. The key requirements are that all partners are individuals (not corporations), all income was timely reported on your personal returns, and each partner's share of each partnership item is the same as their share of every other item. Might be worth mentioning specifically in your abatement request!

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1 That's really helpful! I'll definitely look into Revenue Procedure 84-35. Does this apply even if we technically filed Schedule C forms instead of partnership returns? All of our income was definitely reported on our personal returns - we paid all the taxes we owed, just on the wrong forms apparently.

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Should I Purchase Transferable Tax Credits? Did I Make the Right Financial Decision?

I recently received an interesting proposition from my accountant about purchasing transferable tax credits in my state. I'm trying to figure out if I made the right decision by declining it. Here's what was offered: - $125,000 in transferable state tax credits - Purchase price would be $116,250 - Accountant's fee: $375 - Total cost: $116,625 My situation: - I pay around $32,000 in state income taxes annually - It would take about 4 years to fully use these credits Looking at the math: - Total savings: $125,000 - $116,625 = $8,375 - Rate of return: about 7.18% over 4 years - Annual return: roughly 1.8% What gave me pause was: - I'd need to liquidate some of my investments to come up with the cash - My current portfolio returns are significantly higher than 1.8% - I'd get hit with capital gains tax on anything I sold - My money would essentially be locked up for 4 years After considering everything, I told my accountant no thanks. The return seemed too low compared to inflation and my other investments, plus the opportunity cost of having those funds tied up didn't seem worth it. But now I'm second-guessing myself. Did I miss something important? Are these transferable tax credits actually a better deal than I realized?

One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that transferable tax credits often sell at different discounts depending on the source of the credit. In my state (Louisiana), film credits typically sell at a deeper discount (85-90 cents on the dollar) compared to historic preservation credits (92-95 cents). Also, some brokers have much higher fees than the $300 you mentioned. I was quoted fees ranging from 1-3% by different brokers for the same credit purchase. Your CPA's fee seems reasonable. The time value aspect is critical too. If you're paying $93.5K now to save $25K per year for 4 years, that's very different from saving the full $100K immediately. Your analysis about the annualized return is spot-on.

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Do you know if there's a secondary market for these credits if someone needs to cash out early? Like if I buy them but then need the money back before using all the credits - can I resell them?

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Yes, there is typically a secondary market for unused transferable tax credits, though it varies significantly by state. In Louisiana, for example, you can resell unused film credits, but you'll likely take another haircut on the price - meaning you'd sell at an even deeper discount than what you paid. The marketability also depends on the credit type and remaining utilization period. Credits with longer remaining lifespans and from more established programs (like historic preservation) tend to be more liquid than newer or more niche credit programs. Some states also have restrictions on how many times a credit can be transferred, so you'd need to check your specific state's rules.

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Lots of smart advice here. I'll add that I've purchased transferable credits twice and had different experiences. First time was solar credits in NJ at 88 cents/dollar, which worked well because I had a big tax bill that year and could use them immediately. Second time was for film credits in GA at 90 cents/dollar, but my income dropped unexpectedly that year and I couldn't use them fully. Ended up carrying them forward but that reduced my effective return. One question: did your CPA mention verification of the credits? Some states provide verification services to confirm the credits are legitimate before purchase. DEFINITELY do this if you ever reconsider!

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What documentation did you receive when you purchased the credits? I'm considering buying some but don't know what paperwork to expect or what should raise red flags.

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For my purchases, I received several key documents that you should absolutely expect if you go forward with buying credits. For the NJ solar credits, I got the original credit certificate from the state showing the amount and validity period, a notarized transfer document signed by the original credit recipient, and confirmation from the state tax authority that the transfer was recorded in their system. For the GA film credits, the documentation was similar but also included the production company's certification letter from the film commission. When purchasing any credits, you should always get written verification from the state that the credits exist and haven't been previously transferred or used. Some states have online systems where you can verify this information directly. The biggest red flags would be reluctance to provide proper documentation, pressure to complete the transaction quickly without verification, or inability to explain the origin and certification of the credits.

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Has anyone received their 1099-DIV from Robinhood for 2024 tax filing yet?

I'm supposed to be getting a 1099-DIV from Robinhood for last year since I earned about $13 in dividend income. Since the deadline is February 18th, I figured they'd have sent it out by now, but I haven't seen anything in my account or email. Anyone else waiting on their 1099-DIV from Robinhood? I know for sure I should be getting one since it was over the $10 reporting threshold. Starting to get a bit anxious since I wanted to file my taxes this weekend and get it over with!

I'm in a similar situation with Robinhood but am wondering if I can just go ahead and file my taxes without the 1099-DIV if the dividend amount is small? I only got about $11.50 in dividends for the year. Would the IRS even notice if I just skipped reporting it? Not trying to do anything illegal but wondering if there's a minimum threshold where they don't really care.

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That makes sense. I guess I'll just wait for the form rather than risk an issue. Do you know if a small discrepancy like this would actually trigger an audit though? I've always been paranoid about that.

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A small discrepancy by itself is unlikely to trigger a full audit. What typically happens is the IRS's automated system might flag the return and send you a CP2000 notice (a proposed tax adjustment) if they notice the mismatch. Even though the amount is small, you'd potentially end up paying the tax owed plus interest and maybe a penalty. The hassle of dealing with IRS notices usually isn't worth saving a few dollars in taxes. Better to just report everything accurately from the start and save yourself the stress.

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I've noticed Robinhood is always super late with their tax forms compared to other brokerages. My Fidelity and Vanguard 1099s came weeks ago but still waiting on Robinhood. Anyone else use multiple platforms and notice this pattern? It's annoying because they hold up my entire tax filing process every year.

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Same here! I've already got my forms from Schwab and E*Trade but nothing from Robinhood yet. They seem to always wait until the last possible minute. Last year mine came on February 16th, literally two days before the deadline.

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How to properly report a $1000 loss on rental property in Schedule E (simple rental real estate situation)

I own a single family home that's been rented out all of last year. Looking at my Schedule E, I've got a small loss of about $1,350. I haven't claimed any depreciation and I'm the sole owner of the property. I know this is considered a passive activity, but I'm confused about how to correctly report this loss so I can potentially use it to offset future gains. I've done some research and here's what I think I need to do: * Skip Form 6198 (At-Risk Limitations) since it doesn't apply to my simple rental situation * Complete Form 8582 (Passive Activity Loss Limitations) with: * Part V - list the $1,350 loss for my rental property * Part VII - show unallowed loss of $1,350 with 1.0 ratio * Part III, Line 10 - enter $0 for total losses allowed Then on Schedule E: * Line 22 - enter $0 for deductible rental real estate loss * Line 26 - enter $0 for total rental real estate income/loss Am I understanding this correctly? My goal is to: 1) NOT take these passive activity losses to reduce my taxes this year, but 2) properly document the loss so I can carry it forward to future years. Is my approach right for this simple rental property situation?

One piece of advice I don't see mentioned yet - keep VERY detailed records of your disallowed passive losses from year to year. I learned this the hard way when I was audited three years after reporting a large passive loss on a rental. The IRS wanted documentation of EVERY passive loss I'd ever reported and carried forward. Creating a separate spreadsheet that tracks each year's loss, how much was used (if any), and the running total carried forward is essential. Also keep copies of all Form 8582s from previous years.

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How detailed do these records need to be? Like do I need to track each expense category separately for the carryover or just the total loss amount each year? I've been just writing the total on a notepad file on my computer...

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You should definitely track more than just the total. At minimum, track each property separately if you have multiple rentals, the total loss for each property each year, how much was allowed to be deducted (if any), and the running balance of disallowed losses. I also recommend keeping a copy of the complete Schedule E and Form 8582 for each year, not just the totals. During my audit, the IRS wanted to see the connection between what was reported on Schedule E and what flowed to Form 8582, including all allocation calculations. I had some losses that were partially allowed due to passive income from other sources, and they scrutinized how I calculated those allocations.

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Quick question related to this - does anyone know if short-term rentals (like Airbnb) are treated the same way for passive activity loss rules? I have a vacation home that I rent out part-time and also had a loss last year.

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Short-term rentals can actually be treated differently in some cases! If your average rental period is 7 days or less, the IRS may consider it a "business" rather than a rental activity. This means it might be reported on Schedule C instead and subject to different passive activity rules. The material participation standards would apply instead of the rental real estate rules.

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What advantage does an EMPLOYER gain from labeling workers as Statutory Employees vs. regular Employees?

I've been digging through my employment paperwork and noticed something weird on my W-2. My employer has me checked as a "Statutory Employee" in Box 13, but after researching the IRS definitions, I'm pretty sure I should be classified as a regular employee. I understand how this classification affects ME (I can deduct expenses on Schedule C, etc.), but what I can't figure out is how my EMPLOYER benefits from this. Why would they choose to classify me as Statutory instead of regular? Is there some tax benefit or legal loophole they're trying to exploit? I know statutory employees still get W-2s (not 1099s), but there must be some advantage for the company. Does anyone know what my employer might be gaining from this classification? Is this something I should be concerned about?

From the employer's perspective, here are some reasons companies misclassify regular employees as statutory (I work in HR but don't condone these practices): 1. Reduced unemployment insurance costs 2. Avoidance of certain state-mandated benefits 3. Fewer workplace protections for employees 4. Shifting business expenses to employees 5. Potentially simplified payroll processes Be aware that intentional misclassification is illegal and can result in significant penalties if the IRS investigates. Companies playing these games often get caught eventually.

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Thanks for the insider perspective! Do you think I should be worried about retaliation if I bring this up with my employer? I like my job otherwise and don't want to create problems, but also don't want to be taken advantage of.

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It's a legitimate concern. While retaliation for raising tax classification issues is technically illegal, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen in subtle ways. My advice would be to approach it as a question rather than an accusation. Try something like: "I noticed I'm classified as a statutory employee on my W-2. I've been reading about what that means, and I'm not sure I fit the criteria. Could we review this together?" This gives your employer the opportunity to either explain their reasoning or recognize a potential error without feeling attacked. Document everything, including when you have the conversation and what's said. If your employer is generally reasonable, they might appreciate you bringing a potential compliance issue to their attention before it becomes a problem with the IRS. If they dismiss your concerns or you experience negative consequences, that's when you might consider external options like the SS-8 determination others have mentioned.

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My company got audited last year for exactly this issue! We had classified a bunch of our delivery drivers as statutory when they should have been regular employees. The penalties were significant - we had to pay back taxes, interest, and additional fines. From what I understand, our management thought statutory employees would save money on benefits and certain employment taxes. But it totally backfired when one employee complained to the IRS and triggered an audit. If you're being misclassified, it's definitely worth addressing. The IRS takes this pretty seriously.

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Did the employees who were misclassified receive any compensation or back pay from this audit? I wonder if OP might be entitled to something if they're misclassified.

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