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Don't forget about depreciation when comparing rental properties! Property tax is just one piece of the puzzle. You can depreciate residential rental properties over 27.5 years, which is a huge deduction. So for your two examples, the property value (excluding land) would also factor in. A more expensive property would give you a larger depreciation deduction, which might offset some of the higher expenses.
How do you separate the value of the land from the building for depreciation purposes? I've always been confused about that part. My property tax statement doesn't break it down clearly.
Your property tax assessment should actually have this breakdown. Check your property tax statement or look up your property on your county assessor's website - most will show the land value separately from the improvements (building) value. If it's not clearly stated, a common method is to use the ratio that other similar properties in your area use. Your tax professional can help with this, or you can look at comparable properties with known land/building breakdowns.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - which property do you think will appreciate more in value? That's a huge factor too. A property with higher taxes might be in an area with better schools or services, which could mean better appreciation over time.
This is a really good point. My rental in the high-tax suburb has appreciated WAY more than my rental in the low-tax area. After 5 years, the difference in appreciation has completely dwarfed any tax deduction differences.
I was in the exact same boat last year! Made like $275 with Uber Eats. If you have other income from W-2 jobs, you can actually report this small amount on Line 8z of Schedule 1 (Additional Income and Adjustments to Income) labeled as "other income" and briefly describe it as "gig work" or "delivery income" - no Schedule C needed if you're not claiming any expenses. But if you want to deduct your mileage (which you probably should), then yeah, you'd need Schedule C and most free versions don't support that. FreeTaxUSA is your best bet - totally free for federal filing including Schedule C, you only pay like $15 for state filing.
Can you really put it on line 8z though? I thought all self-employment income HAD to go on Schedule C regardless of the amount? That's what my friend who does accounting told me.
For very small amounts without expenses, the IRS has allowed this simplified reporting method. If you're claiming expenses though (like mileage), you absolutely need Schedule C. I should clarify though - the "proper" way is Schedule C, and that's what most tax pros will recommend to be 100% compliant. The line 8z approach is more of a practical solution for tiny amounts where you're not claiming deductions. Schedule C is definitely the correct technical answer for any self-employment income.
Has anyone actually got audited for not reporting a tiny amount like this? I made $180 from Doordash last year and just didn't bother reporting it... am I going to jail lol?
The chances of being audited for missing $180 are extremely low, but technically yes, you're supposed to report all income. The IRS generally has bigger fish to fry than chasing tiny unreported amounts, but it's still not the right approach. Maybe report it correctly this year?
One trick that might help - go into your TurboTax account and check under "My Tax Documents" to see if there's any indication of which specific forms are pending. Sometimes they'll highlight which ones are causing the issue. Also, if you're getting a message about unfinalized forms but don't have any unusual tax situations, it could actually be a software glitch rather than an actual IRS issue. Try logging out completely, clearing your browser cache, and logging back in. I had a similar issue last year that was resolved by simply restarting the whole process.
Thanks for the suggestion! I tried logging out and back in but still got the same message. I did find something in the "Tax Documents" section though - looks like there might be an issue with the self-employment tax forms. I guess I'll wait a week or so and try again. Really appreciate everyone's help with this!
Glad you were able to at least identify which form might be causing the issue! Self-employment forms can definitely be among those that get delayed. If you want a rough timeline, in previous years the self-employment forms were usually finalized by mid-February, so you probably won't have to wait too long. One other option is to call TurboTax directly - sometimes they have internal notices about when specific forms will be ready that aren't publicized on their main site. Their customer service can often give you a more precise timeline.
idk if this helps but my accountant told me that for 2025 filing season there are specific delays with 1099-NEC processing due to some last minute tax law changes. something about gig work classification that congress changed in december. if you have self employment income like you mentioned that could be your issue for sure.
This is correct. The IRS announced a processing delay for 1099-NEC forms specifically for the 2025 filing season due to changes in the contractor classification rules that were passed late last year. They're updating the form to include the new verification codes for gig workers. Last I heard they should be finalized by February 15th.
That's super helpful to know! I definitely did some gig work this year so that's probably exactly what's causing my issue. I'll just wait until after February 15th and try again. Thank you!!
I'm confused about one thing - if the IRS approves your late S-Corp election with a retroactive date, do you HAVE to amend your previous returns? Or is it optional? I filed my Form 2553 two months ago with a requested effective date of last January, but now I'm worried about having to redo all my taxes from last year.
Yes, if the IRS approves your S-Corp election with a retroactive date, you are required to amend your previous returns to reflect the correct entity type. Your business would need to file Form 1120-S (the S-Corp return) instead of reporting the income on Schedule C of your personal return. This is because once elected, S-Corp status changes how your business income is taxed - part becomes salary subject to payroll taxes and part becomes distributions not subject to self-employment tax. The tax treatment is fundamentally different, so your previous filings would no longer be accurate under the new classification.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your SMLLC actually qualifies for S-Corp status! You need to meet the requirements like having only allowable shareholders (individuals, certain trusts, estates), no more than 100 shareholders, only one class of stock, and not be an ineligible corporation. I've seen people go through this whole process only to find out their LLC wasn't eligible in the first place.
Thanks for bringing this up - I should have mentioned that part. It's a single-member LLC with just me as the only owner, and I'm a US citizen. No fancy stock structure or anything like that. So I think I'm good on the eligibility requirements. It's just the timing with the already-filed tax returns that was worrying me.
Logan Greenburg
A lot of people miss that the mortgage interest tax benefit depends HEAVILY on your specific financial situation. For example: 1) If you're close to the itemization threshold, having a mortgage might push you over the edge where other deductions (like charitable giving) suddenly become valuable too. 2) If you're in a higher tax bracket, the same mortgage interest deduction is worth more to you than someone in a lower bracket. 3) A newer mortgage has much more interest than an older one, so the tax benefit decreases naturally over time. 4) Some states offer additional mortgage deductions beyond federal ones. The "should I pay it off" question isn't just about tax benefits but also opportunity cost, risk tolerance, and peace of mind.
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Charlotte Jones
ā¢Could you explain that second point more? I don't get how the same deduction can be worth different amounts to different people.
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Logan Greenburg
ā¢Sure! It's about your marginal tax rate. Let's say you have $10,000 in mortgage interest. If you're in the 22% tax bracket, that deduction saves you $2,200 in taxes (22% of $10,000). But if you're in the 35% tax bracket, the exact same $10,000 deduction saves you $3,500 in taxes (35% of $10,000). That's why higher income earners often benefit more from deductions. The higher your tax rate, the more valuable each dollar of deduction becomes, because each dollar is offsetting income that would have been taxed at your highest marginal rate.
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Lucas Bey
Has anyone here actually calculated the long-term cost of keeping a mortgage just for tax purposes? I did the math and was shocked. Let's say you have a $300k mortgage at 5% and you're in the 24% tax bracket. Your mortgage interest might save you around $3,600 in taxes in year one. But you're PAYING around $15,000 in interest that year! So you're spending $15k to save $3.6k. Even if you invest the difference and get decent returns, from a pure tax perspective, it rarely makes sense to keep a mortgage JUST for the tax deduction. The math just doesn't work out unless there are other factors at play.
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Harper Thompson
ā¢Thank you! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when financial advisors tell me to keep my mortgage for the tax benefit. Why would I spend a dollar to save 24 cents??? Makes zero sense.
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