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If your company is giving you ISOs, you might want to ask if they offer a "cashless exercise" program. Some startups will work with specific brokers who can front the exercise cost and immediately sell enough shares to cover your costs + taxes, then give you the remaining shares. This can be a way to exercise without needing cash on hand, though you'll end up with fewer shares overall. The tax treatment isn't as favorable as exercising and holding, but it solves the cash flow problem.

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Lydia Bailey

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Would a cashless exercise eliminate the possibility of qualifying for long-term capital gains treatment? I'm trying to understand if there's any way to both solve the cash flow problem AND get the better tax treatment.

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A standard cashless exercise would indeed eliminate the possibility of getting long-term capital gains treatment because you're selling the shares immediately upon exercise. The entire spread between your strike price and the selling price would be taxed as ordinary income. If you're looking to both solve cash flow issues and potentially get better tax treatment, some companies offer what's called a "partial cashless exercise" where you sell just enough shares to cover your costs and taxes, then hold the rest. Those remaining shares could potentially qualify for long-term capital gains treatment if you hold them long enough.

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Mateo Warren

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Has anyone here ever negotiated to get their options as ISOs instead of NSOs? My offer letter says NSOs but I know ISOs are way better tax-wise. Is this something companies are flexible on or is it usually a non-starter?

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Sofia Price

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In my experience working at 3 different startups, the type of option is rarely negotiable. Companies typically have a standard equity plan that applies to everyone at similar levels. NSOs are often used for consultants or non-employees, while employees get ISOs. The tax advantages of ISOs are specifically designed for employees.

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you're tracking your crypto purchases and sales correctly. I used to just estimate and got audited. The IRS wants to see detailed records of every transaction with dates, amounts, and cost basis. The penalties can be rough if they think you're underreporting.

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Do you know if there are specific forms we need to use for reporting crypto specifically? Or is it just the normal capital gains reporting forms?

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For cryptocurrency transactions, you'll use the same forms as other capital assets - primarily Form 8949 (Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets) and Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses). There's no special crypto-specific form. On Form 8949, you'll need to list each transaction separately with description, date acquired, date sold, proceeds, cost basis, and gain/loss. Then the totals carry over to Schedule D. Make sure to check the correct box at the top of Form 8949 depending on whether the exchange provided you with a 1099-B and whether the basis was reported to the IRS.

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Anyone have experience with carrying forward larger crypto losses? I'm underwater by like $20k on one project and wondering how the carryforward process works in practical terms.

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Dylan Cooper

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I had a $15k loss in 2023 and carried it forward. You'll use Schedule D and it will calculate how much you can use in the current year (up to $3k against ordinary income if you have no capital gains to offset). The remaining amount carries forward automatically and you'll need to keep track of it for future years. Your tax software should handle the calculations, but keep your previous returns handy since you'll need to know how much loss you're carrying forward each year. Mine took about 5 tax years to fully utilize.

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Help! Over Contributed to Backdoor Roth IRA by $6500 - Need Advice on Fixing Mistake

Hi everyone! I'm freaking out a bit because I think I seriously messed up my Backdoor Roth IRA contributions and need advice before I get hit with penalties. I've always been pretty good about managing my retirement accounts. Got more serious about finances after landing a promotion in 2021 and set up a Backdoor Roth that year. I contributed exactly $6000 for 2021, did the conversion, and everything was fine. For some reason, I completely missed contributing in 2022 (busy year with work stuff). Then in 2023, I got back on track and put in another $6000 and did the conversion. Here's where I messed up: In February 2024, I think I got confused about which tax year I was contributing for (or maybe tried to catch up for 2022?) and accidentally contributed $13,500 to my traditional IRA! I immediately converted it all to my Roth through the backdoor method without realizing I'd gone way over the limit. I'm trying to figure out my taxes using TurboTax, and it's flagging this as a problem. How do I fix this without getting hammered with penalties? Can I somehow withdraw the excess? Will I need to file an amended return? Here's my contribution history: 2021: $6000 (correct) 2022: $0 (missed it completely) 2023: $6000 (correct) 2024: $13,500 (yikes! $6500 over limit) Any guidance would be super appreciated! I'm considering talking to a tax pro but wanted to see if anyone here has dealt with this specific Backdoor Roth over-contribution issue before.

Hey, just want to share that I made the exact same mistake last year with my Backdoor Roth! I accidentally contributed $12,000 instead of $6,000 for 2023 (got my accounts mixed up). What I did was call Fidelity right away and asked for a "return of excess contribution." The key thing they told me was that I needed to specify which tax year the contribution was for and acknowledge that I had already done the conversion. They had to remove both the excess contribution AND the earnings on that portion from my Roth IRA. The earnings part was taxable in the year I received it back. They sent me a form to fill out, processed everything within about 2 weeks, and provided documentation for my tax return. I had to report it on my taxes but didn't end up paying any penalties since I fixed it before filing.

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Natalie Khan

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to file any special forms when you did your taxes to show that you'd corrected the excess contribution? And did Fidelity calculate the earnings for you or did you have to figure that out yourself?

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Yes, I had to report the correction on my tax return. Fidelity calculated the earnings for me (it was only about $215 since I caught it pretty quickly). They sent me a 1099-R form showing the distribution coded as "return of excess contributions" which I reported on my taxes. I also had to file Form 8606 to report the non-deductible IRA contribution and conversion. On that form, I only reported the allowable contribution amount ($6,000), not the full amount I originally put in. My tax software (I used TaxAct) had a specific section for handling excess contribution removals, which made the process pretty straightforward once I had the documents from Fidelity.

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I know everyone's suggesting to remove the excess contribution, but there's actually another option worth considering. If you have sufficient earned income, you could treat the excess as an early contribution for the 2025 tax year. The IRS allows you to make IRA contributions for a given tax year up until the tax filing deadline of the following year. So technically, part of your February 2024 contribution could count toward 2024 (up to the limit of $7,000) and the remainder could be designated as an early contribution for the 2025 tax year. You'd need to contact your custodian and have them recharacterize the contributions to the appropriate tax years. This avoids having to take money out of your retirement accounts and might be a cleaner solution if you were planning to max out your 2025 contribution anyway.

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This is actually incorrect advice that could cause problems. You cannot pre-contribute to an IRA for a future tax year before January 1st of that year. While you can contribute to the previous year until the tax filing deadline, you cannot contribute to a future year early. The only option here is to remove the excess contribution (plus earnings) or face the 6% penalty that applies each year until the excess is removed.

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Just to add another perspective - I was in this exact situation last year. My parents claim me as a dependent but I file my own return for my job income. What I did was file my simple return (just my W-2 income) early to get my refund of withholding. Then I gave my 1098-T to my parents to claim on their return. They filed later in April. This worked fine and didn't cause any issues. The key is that I didn't try to claim any education credits on my return since I knew they belonged on my parents' return.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Did you have to do anything special on your return to indicate that you had a 1098-T but weren't claiming the credits for it? I'm worried the IRS might flag something if they see my 1098-T was issued to me but doesn't appear on my return.

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You don't need to do anything special on your return regarding the 1098-T. The form is information reported to both you and the IRS, but there's no requirement that you have to claim the associated credits. You simply don't fill out Form 8863 (Education Credits) on your return. The IRS systems understand that dependents' education expenses are claimed by the person claiming them as a dependent. As long as you check the box on your return that you can be claimed as a dependent on someone else's return, the systems know to look for those education credits on your parents' return, not yours.

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Just a warning - make absolutely sure you and your parents are on the same page about your dependent status! My brother claimed education credits for himself not realizing our parents were going to claim him as a dependent. It triggered IRS notices for everyone and was a huge mess to fix.

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That happened to me too! It delayed both my refund and my parents' refund by months while the IRS sorted it out. They had to submit additional documentation and I had to file an amended return. Total nightmare.

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Exactly! And the worst part was that nobody got the education credit in the end because of the way the paperwork had to be corrected. The IRS made us file specific forms to resolve the conflict, and by the time everything was sorted out, we'd missed some deadline for claiming the full credit amount. Make sure your parents know not to file their taxes without including your 1098-T information!

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As someone who works with international students, I can tell you that mailed 1040-NR forms are taking 4-5 months to process right now. The IRS doesn't prioritize them and they go through extra scrutiny because of treaty benefits and other special provisions. One tip: Make sure you kept a complete copy of EVERYTHING you sent. If you need to follow up, having your exact submission is crucial. Also, check if your mailing address will still be valid 6 months from now - many students move during summer and miss important IRS correspondence.

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Andre Dubois

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Thanks for the insight! I did keep copies of everything and took photos of the completed forms before mailing them. About the address - that's actually a concern. I might be moving to a different apartment in August. Should I submit a change of address form with the IRS now, or wait until closer to my move date?

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I recommend waiting until about 2-3 weeks before your move to submit Form 8822 (Change of Address) to the IRS. If you do it too early, they might start sending mail to your new address before you're there. Make sure you also submit a change of address with USPS, as they can forward your mail for up to 12 months. This gives you double protection against missing important IRS notices. And don't forget to update your address with your school's international student office as well, since they handle your tax documentation for visa purposes.

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One thing nobody mentioned - check if your state tax return (if you filed one) shows any updates. Sometimes state processing systems are faster than the IRS and can at least confirm they received your return, which usually means the IRS got it too since most people mail them together.

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Not all states have income tax though. And for nonresident aliens, state tax filing requirements vary widely depending on which state they live in. Some states don't require nonresidents on F-1 visas to file at all if their only income is from a qualified scholarship.

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