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If all else fails, you can also try TurboTax. I think they still allow e-filing for 2021 and possibly 2020 depending on when you're trying to file. They'll charge you around $70-100 per return though, which is more expensive than some of the other options mentioned. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure whatever software you use can handle your international situation correctly. Some of the cheaper options don't properly support foreign earned income exclusion or foreign tax credits.
Thanks for the suggestion! Does TurboTax handle foreign income well? I have earnings from two different countries plus some US investments, so my situation is a bit complicated.
TurboTax does handle foreign income pretty well in my experience. They have specific sections for foreign earned income exclusion (Form 2555) and foreign tax credits (Form 1116). They'll walk you through determining which is better for your situation. For multiple countries, they can handle that too, though you'll need good records of how much you earned in each place and what taxes you paid to each country. The investment income adds another layer, but their premium version specifically covers investment income scenarios. Just be prepared to pay more for the versions that handle international situations.
Has anyone tried OLT (OnLine Taxes)? Their website says they support prior year e-filing but doesn't specify which years exactly.
I used OLT for my 2021 return and it worked fine, but when I tried to do my 2020 return, they only offered paper filing. This was about 6 months ago though, so maybe things have changed. Their customer service was pretty responsive when I asked about it.
Thanks for the info! Guess I'll check with their customer service directly to see if anything's changed. Really hoping to avoid paper filing if possible.
Another thing to consider - even though you're not seeing a tax benefit now, keep tracking all potential deductions each year. Your situation might change! My first 2 years as a homeowner, I took the standard deduction. But by year 3, I had: - Higher mortgage interest (refinanced to a higher amount for renovations) - Larger charitable contributions (donated furniture during renovation) - Some major medical expenses - Higher state taxes after a promotion Suddenly itemizing made sense! So don't get discouraged, just because it doesn't help now doesn't mean it never will.
That's really good to know! Do you have any recommendations for keeping track of all these potential deductions throughout the year? I feel like I might be missing stuff.
I just use a simple spreadsheet with categories for each potential deduction - mortgage interest, property tax, charitable donations, medical expenses, etc. I update it monthly so I don't forget anything. Some tax software also has year-round tracking features or apps. The key is being consistent about saving receipts and documentation. I take photos of donation receipts immediately and save them to a specific folder. For medical expenses, I request year-end summaries from all my providers. It's also smart to check your itemized deductions against the standard deduction amount mid-year to see if you're on track to benefit from itemizing.
Quick tip for new homeowners: You may be able to deduct mortgage "points" if you paid any when buying your home. These are usually listed on your closing documents, not on Form 1098. Points paid when purchasing a primary residence are generally fully deductible in the year paid. Again, this only matters if you're itemizing, but it's something extra that might help you reach that threshold!
Not all points are deductible though. I learned this the hard way. Points for lowering your interest rate are deductible, but points that are really just fees disguised as points aren't. Check IRS Publication 936 for the full details.
Fun fact: The IRS actually tried to create a system like what you're describing! It was called "Return Free Filing" and was proposed back in the early 2000s. The tax prep lobby (mainly Intuit which owns TurboTax) spent over $20 million lobbying against it. They even got Congress to pass the Free File agreement which basically banned the IRS from creating its own filing system as long as tax companies offered a "free" option (which they then deliberately made hard to find and limited in functionality). Look up "ProPublica TurboTax lobbying" if you want to get really angry about it. There was a huge exposé a few years back. So the direct answer to your question of "why isn't this a thing" is simple: corporate profits over public good.
That's incredibly frustrating to learn! I had no idea there was actually a proposed system that got killed by industry lobbying. I just looked up that ProPublica article and wow... the fact that other countries have been doing this for decades while we're stuck manually entering numbers that the government already has is ridiculous. Do you know if there's any movement to revive this idea? Seems like the kind of common sense thing that both political parties could potentially get behind.
There have been several attempts over the years, most recently the Tax Filing Simplification Act that's been introduced a few times but hasn't passed. The current administration has made some promises about simplifying the tax filing process, but meaningful change faces the same powerful lobbying obstacles. The Free File agreement was actually modified in 2019 after the ProPublica reporting, removing the provision that explicitly prevented the IRS from creating its own system. That's a start, but there's still strong resistance. The best hope is continued public pressure and awareness - the more people understand that better options exist and are being deliberately blocked, the more momentum builds for change.
In Australia, we have exactly what you're describing. It's called "myTax" through the ATO (Australian Tax Office). Most income, interest, dividends, government payments, health insurance, and charitable donations are pre-filled in the system. You just review it, add any deductions they don't know about, and submit. Takes about 15-30 minutes for most people. I moved to the US last year and was SHOCKED at how backwards the tax filing system is here. I spent hours gathering documents that the IRS already had and paying for software to do what should be a free government service. The craziest part is I ended up getting a letter from the IRS months later saying I calculated something wrong anyway - so they clearly have all the info and know the correct numbers! Why make me figure it out first?
lol your meme is probably gonna be relevant next year too 😂 the tax code never gets simpler only more complex. i've been filing taxes for 15 years and every single year there's some new form or calculation. remember when you could file on a postcard? pepperidge farm remembers
Didn't they actually try to make a "postcard-sized" tax form a few years back? Whatever happened to that? Seems like my tax return gets thicker every year.
They did try to make that simplified postcard form around 2018 as part of the tax law changes. It was basically a marketing gimmick - they just moved all the calculations to separate worksheets and schedules that you still had to fill out. The whole thing was abandoned pretty quickly because it actually made filing more complicated, not less. Now tax returns are definitely getting thicker every year with more worksheets and schedules than ever. The 2023 tax year is no exception with all the special credits and deductions they keep adding without simplifying the old ones.
Your meme was probably about Form 8812, right? That thing is a nightmare when you have multiple kids with different living situations. I had to figure out which of my three kids qualified last year when one lives with me, one lives with their mom, and one is in college but comes home during breaks. Ended up getting it wrong and had to file an amended return.
Try using tax software. It walks you through all that stuff step by step. TurboTax, H&R Block, or even the free options like FreeTaxUSA handle all those worksheets and calculations behind the scenes.
Sean Doyle
Just want to throw this out there - before you respond to a CP2000, double check that it's legitimate! There are scams going around where people get fake IRS notices. A real CP2000 will always include detailed instructions for responding and multiple ways to contact the IRS. Also, if the "discrepancy" involves income from crypto transactions, be especially careful with your response. The IRS often gets incorrect basis information which makes it look like you had much larger gains than you actually did. I've seen penalties in the tens of thousands that were completely wrong!
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Zara Rashid
•How can you tell if a CP2000 is legit? I got one recently but now I'm worried it might be fake. Are there specific things to look for?
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Sean Doyle
•A legitimate CP2000 will always come by U.S. mail (never email), include your tax ID number, the tax year in question, and a detailed explanation of the proposed changes. It will have specific contact information for the IRS, including a toll-free number. The notice will also include your rights as a taxpayer and explain the appeals process. Fake notices often have spelling/grammar errors, demand immediate payment (especially via gift cards, wire transfers, or cryptocurrency), don't provide clear explanation of the discrepancies, or direct you to unofficial websites. You can always verify a notice by calling the IRS directly at 800-829-1040 (not using any number on the suspicious notice itself).
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Luca Romano
One thing nobody mentioned - you can request more time to respond if 30 days isn't enough! I did this when I got my CP2000 last year because some of my documents were with my accountant who was on vacation. I just called the number on the notice and asked for a 30-day extension, and they granted it no problem.
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Nia Jackson
•Does asking for an extension stop the interest from continuing to accrue though? I'm worried about making the amount owed even higher by delaying.
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