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Something important that nobody has mentioned yet - if you end up setting up a payment plan with the IRS, make sure you ask specifically about the Fresh Start program. They increased the thresholds a few years ago and made it easier for people with lower incomes or hardships to qualify for better terms. Also, document EVERYTHING. Every call, every letter, names of agents you speak with. The IRS can be incredibly disorganized and having your own detailed records has saved me multiple times when they claimed they didn't receive something or didn't have record of a previous conversation.
Thank you for this advice! Do you know what kind of documentation I should prepare before calling about the Fresh Start program? And will they take my upcoming SSDI into account when determining payment amounts?
You'll want to gather documentation of all your current expenses and income. This includes rent/mortgage, utilities, medical expenses, food, transportation, and any other essential costs. For income, include your wife's pay stubs and documentation of your approved SSDI amount. Yes, they will consider your upcoming SSDI as income when determining payment amounts, but they're required to leave you enough for basic living expenses. Be very clear about all your necessary expenses, especially any ongoing medical costs related to your disability. This is where being detailed really helps - if you can show that after essential expenses you have very little left, they have to work with those numbers.
One thing to consider - have you looked into whether you might qualify for an Offer in Compromise? Its basically where the IRS agrees to settle for less than what you owe if paying the full amount would create economic hardship. With your disability situation you might have a good case.
OIC is super hard to get approved tho. I tried twice and got rejected both times even with legit hardships. They want like proof you'll basically never be able to pay the full amount ever.
11 Don't forget about business licenses and permits! I own a similar shop and got hit with fines because I didn't have all the proper local permits. Each city/county has different requirements, especially for smoke/vape shops. Also, make sure you're collecting age verification documentation properly - that's another area where businesses like ours can get into trouble.
1 Thanks for bringing this up - I think I have my business license sorted but I'm not sure about specialty permits for tobacco/vape products. Who would I even contact to make sure I have everything covered? The city? County? State? It's so confusing trying to figure out which government entity handles what.
5 Has anyone here used a tax pro who specializes in small retail businesses? I'm shopping around and the quotes are all over the place, from $350 to $2,000 for year-end business taxes. How do I know if I'm getting someone good vs. just expensive?
8 Look for someone who has specific experience with retail businesses, particularly those dealing with specialized inventory like yours. Ask potential tax pros what percentage of their clients are small retail businesses, and how familiar they are with your state's specific sales tax requirements for your products. A good tax professional should be asking YOU lots of questions about your business operations, not just quoting you a price. They should inquire about your inventory methods, point-of-sale system, how you track expenses, etc. If they don't ask these types of questions, they're probably not specialized enough for your needs. The cheapest option is rarely the best for specialized businesses. That said, the most expensive isn't automatically the best either. Focus on finding someone with relevant experience rather than making decisions based purely on price.
I dealt with this exact scenario back in 2023. My brother had borrowed $80k from me for his house with a formal promissory note, and I inherited the house when he passed. My tax guy explained it this way: the debt doesn't create cancellation of debt income because it's merged out of existence. He called it the "doctrine of confusion" (legal term). BUT - the value of that debt does factor into the estate for inheritance purposes. Basically, the estate included both the house value AND the value of the outstanding loan. Once I inherited everything, the loan disappeared, but for estate tax purposes, both were counted initially.
Did you have to include the full value of the house AND the full value of the note in the estate? Or was it just the house value minus the loan? The whole thing confuses me.
The estate included the house at its fair market value, and the loan was considered a separate asset of the estate (since it was money owed TO the deceased). So yes, both were included separately in the estate valuation. However, in practical terms, this meant the estate had the house (an asset) and the loan (also an asset from the estate's perspective, since it was money owed to my brother). Once everything transferred to me, the loan disappeared because I can't owe myself money. This is different from typical inheritance situations where the estate owes debts to third parties.
A key thing to understand: cancellation of debt income typically occurs when a third party forgives debt you owe. The IRS rules on this are in Publication 4681. But in your scenario, there's no third party - you're now on both sides of the transaction. So it's not "forgiveness" in the traditional sense; it's legal merger/confusion where the debt ceases to exist. What WILL matter is how you handle the adjusted basis of the property for future capital gains calculations. Usually, inherited property gets a stepped-up basis to FMV at date of death, which is a huge benefit.
Have you checked if you might be missing some deductions? My husband and I were in a similar situation ($240k combined income) and kept owing despite withholding at the single rate with 0 allowances. Turns out we weren't maximizing our retirement contributions. Once we both maxed out our 401ks, that lowered our taxable income enough that we broke even. Plus, you know, we're saving for retirement which is a bonus. Also, do you have any 1099 income on the side? Even small amounts of self-employment income without quarterly payments can push you into owing territory.
That's an interesting point about retirement contributions! We do contribute to our 401ks but definitely not maxing them out. How much difference did that make in your tax situation? And no, we don't have any 1099 income - just our regular W-2 jobs.
For us, maxing out our 401ks made a huge difference. At your income level, it could save you around $8,000-10,000 in taxes annually depending on your tax bracket. When we went from contributing about 6% to the max (which is $22,500 per person for 2023), our withholding issues disappeared. It effectively reduced our taxable income by about $35,000 combined. It was a bit of a lifestyle adjustment to put that much away, but the tax savings plus the long-term retirement benefits made it worthwhile. And honestly, once it's automatically deducted, you adjust your spending and barely notice it.
Check your state tax withholding too! Everyone's talking about federal, but my wife and I had this exact problem. We fixed our federal withholding but forgot about state taxes. We live in California with high state taxes, and even though our federal withholding was perfect, we were under-withholding for state.
Owen Jenkins
Does anyone know if using business funds via Venmo creates any additional documentation requirements? My accountant always tells me to use my business credit card for everything but sometimes vendors only take Venmo or Cash App...
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Lilah Brooks
ā¢Venmo transactions can absolutely be used for business expenses, but your accountant is right to encourage using business cards when possible. The key with Venmo is documentation. Make sure to: 1) Use a business Venmo account separate from personal 2) Download monthly statements 3) Add notes to each transaction with business purpose 4) Take screenshots of the transactions Venmo doesn't automatically create detailed receipts like credit cards do, so you need to be more diligent about documentation.
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Jackson Carter
Everyone's making this way more complicated than it needs to be. I've been running a small business for 10 years and here's what matters: 1. Was it actually a business meal? (sounds like yes) 2. Do you have documentation? (Venmo receipt + notes) Just categorize it as a meal and take the 50% deduction. End of story. The IRS doesn't care if your vendor is incorporated, unincorporated, your grandma, or a lemonade stand. They care if YOU had a legitimate business purpose. Your friend's tax situation is completely separate. Don't overthink it!
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Adrian Hughes
ā¢Appreciate the straightforward answer! Just to confirm, so I should categorize it specifically as "Meals" rather than something more generic like "Supplies" or "Miscellaneous"? And you're confident this won't create any issues for my friend?
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Jackson Carter
ā¢Yes, categorize it specifically as "Meals" because that's what it actually was. Using the correct categorization is always better than trying to hide something in a generic category. Remember that meals are still only 50% deductible (that temporary 100% deduction for restaurant meals expired). And I'm absolutely confident this won't create issues for your friend. Their tax obligations are completely separate from your expense categorization. The IRS doesn't have a system that flags "oh, this business claimed a meal from a non-registered business, let's investigate." Your friend needs to report their income regardless of how you categorize your expense.
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