Can I write off a business meal purchased from a friend's unincorporated food business?

My business partner and I run a small marketing LLC and we had a working lunch yesterday while brainstorming our next quarter strategy and creating some social media content. We paid $67 for the meal through Venmo directly from our business checking account, but here's where it gets complicated - we bought the food from my college friend who recently started selling homemade meals but hasn't officially registered as an LLC or sole proprietorship yet. I definitely want to claim this as a business expense since it was legitimately a working meal, but I'm worried about potential audit issues. Would writing this off somehow create problems for my friend who's still operating informally? Should I categorize it specifically as a "Meal" expense (50% deductible I think?) or would it be safer to just label it as "Miscellaneous" or "Supplies" to avoid drawing attention? We're still figuring out all the tax intricacies of running our LLC, so any advice would be super appreciated! Just trying to maximize deductions without creating headaches for either business.

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Molly Chambers

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You can definitely deduct this as a business meal! The key is having documentation that shows the business purpose, not necessarily the vendor's business status. Since you were discussing business plans and creating content, it qualifies as a legitimate business meal expense. Here's what to do: Categorize it properly as a "Meal" (it's 100% deductible for 2022-2023 for restaurant meals due to temporary COVID relief, otherwise 50% in most cases). Make sure you note the business purpose, who attended, and keep the Venmo receipt. You should also write down what business topics you discussed. As for your friend - your tax deduction doesn't impact them at all. Your friend's tax obligations are completely separate from your expense classification. They are responsible for reporting their income regardless of how you categorize the expense on your end.

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Molly Chambers

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You're right to question that - I should have been more clear. The 100% deduction for business meals from restaurants was for 2021-2022, not 2023. For 2023 onward, we're back to the standard 50% deduction for most business meals. Regarding location, that's an important distinction. If the meal was at your friend's house rather than at an established food service location, the IRS might view this differently. The 50% deduction typically applies to meals purchased from actual food service businesses. Since your friend is selling food, even informally, I'd still categorize it as a meal expense, but be prepared to show the business purpose was genuine if questioned.

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Ian Armstrong

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Alice Coleman

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Just to add another perspective - I'm a small business owner who also sells on the side without formal registration yet (pottery, not food). From the vendor perspective, how YOU categorize an expense doesn't really affect your friend. The IRS doesn't cross-reference your business expense categories with their income. Your friend needs to report their income regardless of how you categorize the expense. So don't worry about "getting them in trouble" based on your categorization. That said, your friend should know they need to report that income on Schedule C even without formal business registration. Once they hit $400 in profit, they owe self-employment taxes.

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Alice Coleman

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That's exactly right. The IRS doesn't have some automated system that says "Oh, Business X claimed a meal deduction from Vendor Y, so now we need to check if Vendor Y is registered." Your expense categorization is completely separate from their income reporting obligations. Your friend is required to report that income whether you categorize it as a meal, supplies, or anything else. The IRS places the responsibility on each taxpayer to properly report their own situation. So categorize it correctly as a business meal (50% deductible) and maintain proper documentation of the business purpose.

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Lilah Brooks

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Venmo transactions can absolutely be used for business expenses, but your accountant is right to encourage using business cards when possible. The key with Venmo is documentation. Make sure to: 1) Use a business Venmo account separate from personal 2) Download monthly statements 3) Add notes to each transaction with business purpose 4) Take screenshots of the transactions Venmo doesn't automatically create detailed receipts like credit cards do, so you need to be more diligent about documentation.

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Jackson Carter

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Everyone's making this way more complicated than it needs to be. I've been running a small business for 10 years and here's what matters: 1. Was it actually a business meal? (sounds like yes) 2. Do you have documentation? (Venmo receipt + notes) Just categorize it as a meal and take the 50% deduction. End of story. The IRS doesn't care if your vendor is incorporated, unincorporated, your grandma, or a lemonade stand. They care if YOU had a legitimate business purpose. Your friend's tax situation is completely separate. Don't overthink it!

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Jackson Carter

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Yes, categorize it specifically as "Meals" because that's what it actually was. Using the correct categorization is always better than trying to hide something in a generic category. Remember that meals are still only 50% deductible (that temporary 100% deduction for restaurant meals expired). And I'm absolutely confident this won't create issues for your friend. Their tax obligations are completely separate from your expense categorization. The IRS doesn't have a system that flags "oh, this business claimed a meal from a non-registered business, let's investigate." Your friend needs to report their income regardless of how you categorize your expense.

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