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Are Meal Deductions Legal for My Wife's Writing LLC? Confused About Business Dinner Rules

I'm totally clueless about tax laws and feel like I might be missing something obvious here. My wife runs a small LLC for her technical writing side gig. She only writes a few articles per year and it's not a major income source for us. For the past 6-7 years, we've been deducting "business dinners" on her LLC taxes. Our previous accountant (who handled our taxes for 25+ years) told us that if my wife and I go out to dinner and discuss her articles, planning, content ideas, etc., we could legitimately expense both the meal and the mileage to get there. We've been doing this maybe once every couple months and keeping all receipts and expense reports. Our old accountant had some mental health issues, so we switched to a new tax person about two years ago. We've continued submitting these dinner expenses the same way, and our new accountant hasn't flagged any issues. Here's what's bugging me: I recently started researching this on my own, and I can't find anything that specifically says spouses can deduct dinners where they discuss one person's business. Everything I find online about meal deductions seems to focus on either client entertainment or travel expenses, neither of which applies to our situation. The LLC income is a tiny fraction of our household earnings (maybe 3-4%), and these dinner expenses are even smaller, so I'm wondering if it's just too minor to trigger any concerns. Are these spouse business dinner deductions actually legitimate for an LLC, or have we been claiming something we shouldn't for years?

Romeo Barrett

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While I'm not your tax advisor, I can help clarify meal deductions for LLCs. The rules changed significantly after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, but certain business meals are still 100% deductible (temporarily increased from 50% during 2021-2022 to help restaurants during COVID). For meals to be deductible for an LLC, they generally need to be: 1) ordinary and necessary for your business, 2) not lavish or extravagant, and 3) directly related to business discussions. The IRS wants to see a clear business purpose and substantiation (receipts, who attended, business topics discussed). The tricky part is that meals between spouses discussing one spouse's business fall into a gray area. The IRS might question whether these are legitimate business expenses or personal meals that would have happened anyway. Simply discussing business during a meal you would have had regardless doesn't make it deductible. Your best defense would be maintaining detailed documentation beyond just receipts - notes about specific article topics discussed, decisions made, and how each meal directly contributed to the business. The fact that these are occasional (not regular weekly dinners) helps your case.

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Thanks for explaining! Is there any specific IRS publication or rule I can reference about spouse business meals? Our dinners are definitely focused on article planning and we make actual decisions during them, not just casual chat. Should we be concerned about the past years where we've claimed these, or is it not worth worrying about given the small amounts?

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Romeo Barrett

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There's no specific IRS publication focused solely on spouse business meals, but you should review IRS Publication 463 "Travel, Gift, and Car Expenses" which covers meal deduction rules. The key is whether these meals have a primary business purpose that passes the "ordinary and necessary" test for your wife's specific business. I wouldn't lose sleep over past returns given the small amounts involved. The risk of audit is generally low for small businesses, especially when the deductions are reasonable compared to income. Just ensure future claims are well-documented with notes on specific article topics discussed, decisions made, and how each meal directly contributed to generating business income. This documentation is your best protection if questions ever arise.

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Justin Trejo

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Justin Trejo

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Tyler Murphy

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Sara Unger

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How exactly does this work? Sounds too good to be true... the IRS phone system is notoriously awful. Did you actually get definitive answers about deductions or just general info? Sometimes even the IRS agents give different answers depending on who you talk to.

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Alana Willis

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This seems sketchy. Why would I pay a third party to call the IRS when I can do it myself for free? And would an IRS agent even give binding advice over the phone? I'd be worried they'd tell me one thing and then I'd still face issues during an actual audit.

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Tyler Murphy

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Thought I'd share my experience: I had a similar LLC situation with my wife, where we'd occasionally go to dinner to discuss her consulting business. We were audited three years ago (for different reasons), but those meal deductions came under review too. The IRS agent was very clear: spouse-to-spouse business meals are scrutinized closely. What saved us was having detailed notes for each dinner - we kept a small business diary with actual decisions made and action items that resulted from each meal discussion. It wasn't enough to just have receipts or general "discussed business" notes. The other key factor was frequency - we only claimed 6-8 business dinners per year, not weekly meals. The agent specifically mentioned that infrequent, special-purpose business discussion meals were more credible than regular dinners that could be viewed as primarily personal.

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Freya Ross

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This is super helpful! Did you have to use a specific format for your meal notes? I've been claiming business meals with my wife for our rental property business and now I'm nervous. We keep receipts but nothing else.

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We didn't use any official format, but our notes included: date, restaurant, amount, specific topics discussed, actual decisions made, and next steps/action items assigned to each of us. The key point the auditor emphasized was showing that real business outcomes resulted from these meals. For your rental business, I'd recommend starting a similar documentation process immediately. The IRS looked more favorably on our current practices than trying to recreate documentation after the fact. For property rentals specifically, you might note discussions about maintenance issues, tenant situations, property acquisitions or improvements, or marketing strategies - anything showing legitimate business purpose beyond just casual conversation.

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Leslie Parker

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that meal deduction rules can differ by business type! My wife has an LLC taxed as an S-Corp and we have completely different rules than when I had a single-member LLC. Also, the actual verbiage in your LLC operating agreement matters. If your wife's LLC operating agreement specifically mentions regular planning meetings as part of operations, you're in a much stronger position to defend those meal deductions. Might be worth having a tax attorney review your operating agreement to see if an amendment would help clarify and support these deductions going forward. The other question is how the LLC is taxed - is it a pass-through entity or does she file separate business returns? That can impact how these deductions are treated too.

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Sergio Neal

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Wait - I didn't know operating agreements could affect deductions! Our agreement is just a standard template we downloaded. Can you actually put specific language about business meals in there? Would that really make a difference to the IRS?

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Based on my experience with similar LLC situations, your spouse business meal deductions are in a gray area that requires very careful documentation. The IRS doesn't have specific rules prohibiting spouse-to-spouse business meals, but they scrutinize them heavily because they could easily be viewed as personal expenses disguised as business deductions. The key factors that make these deductions defensible are: 1) The meals have a clear business purpose that wouldn't exist without the LLC, 2) You maintain detailed records beyond just receipts (specific topics discussed, decisions made, action items), 3) The frequency is reasonable (occasional planning sessions, not regular dinners), and 4) The expenses are proportional to your business income. Given that your wife's LLC income is only 3-4% of household earnings, these deductions might fly under the radar, but that doesn't make them automatically legitimate. I'd recommend starting to document these meals more thoroughly going forward - keep a business diary with dates, specific article topics discussed, planning decisions made, and concrete outcomes from each meeting. The fact that two different accountants haven't flagged this suggests it's not obviously wrong, but it's still worth getting proper documentation in place to protect yourself if questions ever arise.

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm curious about the documentation part - when you mention keeping a "business diary," do you mean a separate log just for these meals, or should it be integrated into regular business records? Also, how detailed do the notes need to be? Like, is "discussed Q2 article topics and decided on three new pieces" enough, or do you need to list the actual article titles and specific decisions made? I'm asking because I have a similar side consulting LLC and want to make sure I'm documenting correctly from the start rather than trying to fix things later.

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