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Have you checked your IRS transcript? That would tell you if someone already filed on your behalf or if an extension is already in place. You can access it online through the IRS website if you create an account. The transcripts show all activity on your tax account including extensions filed, returns processed, and payments received. It might save you a lot of time troubleshooting since you'll be able to see exactly what's in the IRS system under your SSN.
Creating an IRS account is a nightmare though. I tried to do this last year and they wanted me to verify my identity by entering information from a mortgage, car loan, or credit card - none of which I had at the time! Ended up having to mail in a form and wait 10 days for a verification code.
That's a good point about the verification process. It can be difficult for some people to create an account. If you can't access your transcript online, calling the IRS transcript request line at 800-908-9946 is another option. They can mail your transcript to your address on record. The most important thing is confirming whether an extension or return has actually been filed under your SSN before worrying about potential identity theft or duplicate payments. This information can help determine your next steps.
Just a quick question - how much did you attempt to pay with your extension filing? Remember an extension only gives you more time to FILE, not more time to PAY. If you owed taxes for 2024, those were still due by April 18th regardless of an extension.
I tried to pay about $2,700 which was what TurboTax estimated I would owe based on the information I entered so far. I understand extensions only give more time to file, not pay - that's why I attempted to submit the payment with my extension request. I'm just worried about where that money went since the extension was rejected!
This is such an important point that people miss! I've seen so many friends get hit with penalties because they thought filing an extension meant they didn't have to pay until October. The interest and penalties on unpaid tax can add up fast - I think it's something like 0.5% per month plus interest.
Everyone's giving great answers about the technical side, but here's a practical tip from someone who's been self-employed for years: set aside 25-30% of your gig income in a separate savings account with every payment you receive. That way when quarterly payments come due (or annual if you qualify for that), you've already got the money set aside. I learned this the hard way after my first year doing freelance work and having to scramble to find money for a big tax bill. Now I automatically transfer 30% of every payment into my "tax savings" and it's made everything so much less stressful.
That's actually a really smart system! Do you use any specific app or method to keep track of all your expenses throughout the year? I've just been keeping random receipts in a shoebox which probably isn't ideal lol.
I use a basic spreadsheet for tracking expenses, but I also take pictures of all receipts with my phone and organize them by month in a cloud folder. Way better than the shoebox method (which is what I started with too)! For mileage specifically, I recommend a dedicated app like MileIQ or Everlance that tracks your trips automatically. They're worth every penny come tax time since mileage is usually the biggest deduction for delivery gigs.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - the first year or two you have self-employment income, you can often get the underpayment penalty waived by filing Form 2210 and checking the box in Part II that says you had no tax liability last year. There's also a waiver for "unusual circumstances" if this is your first time dealing with self-employment tax. Not guaranteed, but the IRS can be surprisingly reasonable about this stuff if it's your first time making this mistake. Just make sure you start doing quarterly payments (or increase your W2 withholding) going forward.
This is super helpful! Is there any specific wording you'd recommend using when requesting the waiver for a first-timer with self-employment income?
Don't panic - this happens all the time. The IRS has a program called the Voluntary Classification Settlement Program (VCSP) that might help you. It lets employers who've been treating workers as independent contractors reclassify them as employees with reduced penalties. You'll definitely need to file Schedule H, but also look into Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) and Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages). Your babysitter did the right thing by reporting the income correctly. The good news is that since she reported it, you're less likely to face an audit specifically for this issue.
Thanks for mentioning the VCSP program. I'll definitely look into that along with Schedule H. Would you recommend I also file the SS-8 form, or is that something my babysitter would need to do? And do I need to worry about state taxes too, or just federal?
The SS-8 form is typically filed when there's a dispute about worker classification. Since you both agree she's a household employee, you probably don't need to file it. It's more important to focus on the Schedule H and getting caught up on the employment taxes. Yes, you absolutely need to look into state taxes as well. Most states have their own version of unemployment taxes for household employers, and the thresholds can be different from federal requirements. Check with your state's employment department as soon as possible, as they may have separate filing requirements and potential penalties.
Just went through this whole mess last year. One tip - if you file Schedule H late, be sure to include an explanation letter with your filing. Explain that you weren't aware of the household employee requirements and that you're voluntarily coming into compliance now that you understand your obligations. Also, keep in mind that you might be able to claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit for the payments to your babysitter (Form 2441), which could offset some of the additional taxes you'll owe. But you'll need to get your babysitter's SSN and make sure everything is properly documented.
Would the Child and Dependent Care Credit still apply if the babysitter was watching my sister's kids at my house? I paid her but they weren't my dependents.
No, the Child and Dependent Care Credit only applies if you're paying for care for your own qualifying dependents (your children under 13 or disabled dependents/spouse). If you were paying for childcare for your sister's children and they aren't your dependents, you can't claim the credit. Your sister might be able to claim it though, if she can document that she reimbursed you for the childcare expenses and meets the other requirements for the credit.
For your multiple W-2 situation, I'd recommend setting up a spreadsheet to track your income and projected taxes throughout the year. I have 5 W-2 jobs and this helps me stay on top of things. You can input your pay from each job and calculate roughly what your total tax liability will be, then adjust your W-4s accordingly. Don't forget to account for the standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers in 2024).
Do you have a template for this spreadsheet you could share? I've been trying to figure out how to set one up but I'm not sure how to structure it with multiple income sources.
I don't have a shareable template, but here's how I structure mine: I create columns for each income source, then rows for each pay period. I sum these up to get my projected annual income. Then I calculate my taxable income (after standard deduction) and use the tax brackets to estimate my tax liability. I compare this to the total withholding from my pay stubs to see if I'm on track. The key is to update it after each paycheck so you can make adjustments to your withholding if needed. If you're not comfortable with tax brackets, there are IRS withholding calculators online that can help estimate your total tax more accurately.
For your LLC question - I have one LLC that covers my freelance writing, photography, and occasional consulting work. It's totally fine to have different income streams under one LLC. You'll just file one Schedule C but you can list multiple "business codes" if they're truly different categories. Makes bookkeeping way simpler than having multiple entities!
StarGazer101
Be really careful about underwithholding! Two years ago I claimed 4 allowances (on the old W-4) thinking I'd just pay at tax time, and ended up with a $4300 bill PLUS a $420 underpayment penalty. Learned my lesson the hard way. The new W-4 is actually designed to be more accurate so you don't get big refunds OR big bills. Fill it out honestly and it should get you pretty close. If you want a little more in each check, you can use Step 4(b) to claim some deductions if you itemize, have student loan interest, or contribute to retirement accounts.
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Keisha Jackson
β’Does contributing to a 401k automatically reduce withholding or do I need to put that on my W-4 somewhere? My HR person was useless when I asked.
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StarGazer101
β’401k contributions automatically reduce your withholding because they reduce your taxable income before taxes are calculated on your paycheck. You don't need to put this on your W-4 specifically. However, if you have other deductions like mortgage interest, charitable giving, or student loan interest that aren't reflected in your paycheck, you can estimate their annual total and put that amount on line 4(b) of your W-4 to reduce withholding further.
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Paolo Romano
Has anyone tried those tax withholding calculators on TurboTax or H&R Block websites? Are they accurate or just trying to sell you something?
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Amina Diop
β’I tried both and they were ok but seemed to be pushing their paid services. The IRS withholding calculator is completely free and actually pretty good if your tax situation is straightforward. Doesn't work well with irregular income tho.
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