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I went through almost this exact situation at a dermatology clinic last year! Controlled schedule, on-site work, using their equipment, yet they wanted to classify me as an independent contractor. Here's what I learned: 1. Don't fill out that W-9 if you believe you're an employee. You can provide a written statement explaining why you believe you're misclassified instead. 2. The SS-8 form is exactly what you need. It asks detailed questions about your work arrangement so the IRS can make a determination. 3. Document EVERYTHING. Save all communications, work schedules, evidence of supervision, etc. 4. If they've already paid you, you'll need to report that income regardless. But you can file Form 8919 with your taxes to pay only the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes. My former employer was furious when they got contacted by the IRS, but ultimately the determination came back that I was indeed an employee. They had to pay their portion of employment taxes plus penalties. It took about 7 months for the whole process.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have any issues with the employer retaliating against you? I'm worried about using them as a reference for future jobs if I file an SS-8.
That's a valid concern. I did face some initial hostility - they definitely knew I was the one who filed the SS-8, and I received a pretty nasty email about it. However, I was fortunate that I had already secured another position and didn't need them as a reference. If you're concerned about references, I recommend lining up alternative references from colleagues or supervisors who might be sympathetic to your situation. Also, many employers now only confirm dates of employment rather than providing detailed references due to liability concerns. Another option is to be proactive and have a calm, professional conversation with your former employer explaining that you're simply trying to ensure your taxes are filed correctly. Sometimes approaching it from a "I need to make sure I'm doing this right" angle rather than an accusatory one can help maintain the relationship. That said, some employers will still be upset regardless of how you approach it.
Hey, just a heads up - my wife is an accountant and says you should request a copy of your Homebase time records ASAP before they potentially "disappear." Those records are gold for proving you were treated as an employee. One of her clients was in a similar situation and getting those timekeeping records was crucial to their successful misclassification case. Also, her firm sees these cases all the time and they've had great success with the SS-8 process. The typical turnaround time is 6-8 months for a determination, but it's absolutely worth doing. From what you've described, this is pretty much a textbook case of misclassification. One last thing - don't worry too much about the SSN issue. Your employer already has your SSN if you worked there, and filing the SS-8 doesn't create additional risk. If anything, having an open case with the IRS might actually provide some protection because they'll be more aware if something suspicious happens with your tax records.
Is there a time limit for filing the SS-8? I had something similar happen 2 years ago but never did anything about it.
The article referenced is about Peter Thiel, who basically put PayPal founder shares valued at less than a penny each into his Roth IRA back in 1999. When PayPal went public, those shares exploded in value. He then used the proceeds to make other investments inside the Roth, continuing to grow it tax-free. What's important to understand is this: technically, anyone can use a self-directed Roth IRA to invest in alternative assets including private company shares. The challenge for normal folks is: 1) Having access to those potentially explosive investments 2) Getting them at valuations low enough to fit within contribution limits 3) Having enough insider knowledge to identify future unicorns While we can't replicate Thiel's strategy exactly, self-directed IRAs do allow investments beyond typical stocks/bonds. You can invest in real estate, private equity, startups, precious metals, etc. Just be careful of prohibited transaction rules - you can't self-deal or invest in closely related businesses.
Has anyone here actually set up a self-directed Roth IRA? What's involved in the process and what are the ongoing costs? I've heard there are specialized custodians required and wondering if it's worthwhile for smaller accounts.
I set up a self-directed Roth IRA about 3 years ago. The process involves finding a custodian that specializes in alternative assets - companies like Equity Trust, Directed IRA, or IRA Financial Group. You complete their paperwork, transfer funds from an existing Roth or make a new contribution, and then direct investments through their platform. The costs vary significantly between custodians. Most charge an annual fee (typically $200-600 depending on account size) plus transaction fees for each investment. Some charge based on number of assets held, others on account value. For smaller accounts under $50,000, these fees can significantly impact returns, so I'd recommend having at least $75,000-100,000 before considering this route to make the administrative costs worthwhile relative to potential returns.
One regular-person strategy I've used that's helped maximize my Roth is appropriate asset location across accounts. I keep my highest growth potential investments (small cap stocks, emerging markets) in the Roth, while my more conservative investments (bonds, dividend stocks) stay in traditional retirement accounts. Over 10 years, this has made a noticeable difference because the investments that grew the most were completely tax-free in the Roth, while the slower-growing investments in traditional accounts will be taxed at potentially lower rates in retirement. Obviously nothing like the tech billionaire strategy, but it's something practical anyone can implement!
I've heard conflicting advice about this though. Some advisors say to put bonds in the Roth because they generate regular income that would be taxed, and growth stocks in taxable accounts where you can harvest losses and get long-term capital gains rates. What made you choose your approach?
Is the payment exactly $1,500? That amount makes me think it might be related to the Recovery Rebate Credit from one of the stimulus payments. International students who became residents for tax purposes could claim these retroactively in some cases.
But OP said they're becoming a resident for tax purposes in 2025, meaning they're still a nonresident alien right now. I don't think nonresident aliens qualified for stimulus payments unless they were married to US citizens or residents.
Check if you have any pending financial aid or scholarships. My university sometimes processes refunds for international students with weird payment descriptions that don't clearly identify the source. One time I got a payment that just showed up as "*" in my bank account, and it turned out to be an emergency grant for international students affected by COVID.
I actually checked with the financial aid office already and they said they haven't processed anything for me recently. All my scholarship funds for last semester came through months ago, and the fall semester payments aren't scheduled to process until next month. The deposit definitely came from the Treasury Department based on the routing info.
8 Quick tip from someone who went through this: make sure you get clarity on what your acquisition cost is considered to be for CGT calculations. Is it when you originally bought together? Or does the divorce create a new acquisition value? This makes a huge difference to the gain calculation. Also don't forget to factor in any improvements you made to the property (extensions, major renovations, etc.) as these can be added to your acquisition cost to reduce the taxable gain. I nearly forgot about the loft conversion we did that added £40k to the base cost!
3 This is such an important point. When I sold post-divorce, my accountant didn't initially factor in the £27k kitchen renovation we'd done, which would have significantly increased my CGT bill. Do things like a new bathroom count as "improvements" or just "maintenance"?
8 Great question about bathrooms. The distinction between "improvements" and "maintenance" is important for CGT. A completely new bathroom would typically count as an improvement and can be added to your base cost. However, just replacing existing fixtures with similar ones is usually considered maintenance and isn't allowable. The rule of thumb is whether you've enhanced the property's value or just maintained its condition. Extensions, loft conversions, new kitchens or bathrooms, adding central heating where none existed before - these count as improvements. Repainting, fixing a leaky roof, or replacing worn carpets are maintenance and can't be added to your base cost.
22 Has anyone dealt with the stamp duty implications when buying a new place after divorce? I'm in a similar situation where I'll get a portion of our house sale but I'm worried I'll have to pay the higher stamp duty rate on my next purchase since technically I'll still be "owning" part of a property until completion day of our family home sale.
19 You should be fine as long as you sell the shared property before or on the same day you complete on the new purchase. If there's going to be a gap where you technically own parts of two properties, then yes, you could be hit with the higher rate. Timing is everything!
Omar Fawzi
Just a suggestion from someone who's been there - instead of using Venmo, my wife and I set up a joint checking account specifically for shared expenses. We each contribute our portion of the budget monthly, and all shared bills come out of that account. No transfers needed, no 1099-K concerns, and we still maintain our separate finances for everything else. Before we got married we just had a "roommate" checking account that worked the same way. So much easier than tracking Venmo payments!
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Chloe Wilson
ā¢Don't you need to be married to open a joint account though? OP said they're engaged but not married yet.
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Omar Fawzi
ā¢You definitely don't need to be married to open a joint checking account! Many banks offer joint accounts for any two adults - roommates, partners, family members, etc. My now-wife and I opened ours about 2 years before we got married. Most banks just need both people to come in with IDs to set it up. Some online banks might have different requirements, but traditional banks and credit unions generally allow non-married people to open joint accounts without any issues.
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Diego Mendoza
My partner and I use the Splitwise app to track all our shared expenses, then settle up once a month with a single Venmo payment. Makes it super easy to track everything without having to send multiple small payments that might trigger 1099-K issues. Plus it keeps a digital record of all our shared expenses if we ever need to prove these were reimbursements.
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Anastasia Romanov
ā¢Does Splitwise integrate directly with Venmo or do you still have to manually send the payment?
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