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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is the wash sale rule situation. Currently crypto isn't subject to wash sale rules like stocks are, but there's been talk of changing that. If you're using HIFO and the rules change, you could potentially have issues with prior year reporting if you've been selling and rebuying quickly to harvest losses while using HIFO for the gains. Something to consider if you're doing any tax loss harvesting alongside your HIFO strategy.
I hadn't thought about the wash sale angle at all. Do we know when these rule changes might happen? I've definitely been doing some selling and rebuying to optimize my tax situation. Would previously filed returns be affected if they change the rules, or would it only apply going forward?
The proposed changes have been floating around for a while but haven't been implemented yet. Generally, tax changes aren't retroactive, so your previous returns should be safe. But going forward, you'd need to be careful about selling and rebuying within a 30-day window if they do apply wash sale rules to crypto. If you're concerned, the safest approach is to document your reasoning for using HIFO now, show consistency in your method, and keep immaculate records. That way, even if rules change, you can demonstrate you were following the guidance available at the time you filed.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting with HIFO? I've got about 50 transactions across Coinbase and Kraken, and I'm wondering if it's worth paying for their premium version or if I should use something else entirely.
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - don't forget about self-employment taxes! If you do make your woodworking a legitimate business, you'll pay an additional 15.3% on your profits for Medicare and Social Security taxes. This is on top of income tax. This is one reason why an S-Corp can eventually make sense (after you're profitable), as you can pay yourself a reasonable salary (subject to SE tax) and take the rest as distributions (not subject to SE tax).
Wait, so if I report losses in the beginning, would I still have to pay self-employment taxes? That seems counterintuitive if I'm not making money yet.
No, you wouldn't pay self-employment taxes on losses. Self-employment taxes only apply to profits. If your business has a net loss, there's no profit to tax. That said, consistent losses could potentially trigger IRS scrutiny under the hobby loss rules we discussed earlier. It's a balancing act - you want to take legitimate deductions to reduce your tax liability, but you also need to demonstrate a genuine intent to make profit over time.
Just went through this with my pottery business! My advice: start as a sole proprietor (Schedule C) first, not an S-Corp. Way simpler and lower compliance costs. You'll need to be careful about what you deduct. For equipment, anything over $2,500 typically needs to be depreciated rather than expensed entirely in year one (though Section 179 and bonus depreciation might help). For home workspace, you can only deduct space used EXCLUSIVELY for business. If your workshop doubles as storage or family space, you'll run into problems.
A few other options to consider: 1. Check with your payroll provider if you use one - many offer W2 filing services even if you don't use them for regular payroll. 2. Try a local print shop that specializes in business services. Some have the official forms in stock and will sell individual copies. 3. If you use any tax software for your business (like QuickBooks), many have W2 filing capabilities built in that you might not be aware of. The electronic filing through BSO is definitely your best bet at this point though. The process is pretty straightforward once you get started.
Thanks for the additional suggestions! I actually don't use a payroll provider since it's just one employee (family member), but I'll check with the local print shop tomorrow. I do have QuickBooks but only the basic version - I'll see if it has W2 filing capabilities.
QuickBooks Basic should have W2 capabilities, but you might need to purchase their payroll add-on to access it. It's usually around $50 for a basic filing service, which might be worth it for the convenience. Local print shops that cater to businesses are often overlooked resources for tax forms. They typically understand the requirements better than the big box stores and might be willing to sell you just the forms you need rather than a bulk pack.
Don't forget! The January 31 deadline is for providing W2s TO your employees. The deadline for filing Copy A with the Social Security Administration is actually later - January 31 if filing electronically, but February 28 if filing by paper. So if you're really stuck getting the official Copy A, you have a little more time than you might think for the SSA submission.
Former tax preparer here - one thing nobody's mentioned yet is that if you're operating short-term rentals, you need to be really careful about material participation requirements. This affects whether your rental activities are considered passive or active, which impacts how losses can be deducted. Short-term rentals (average stay less than 7 days) are generally considered a business rather than a passive rental activity, which changes the tax treatment significantly. You'll want to track your hours spent managing the properties, advertising, communicating with guests, etc. Also, regarding travel expenses - a mistake I saw clients make all the time was trying to deduct trips that were 90% vacation and 10% "looking at properties." The IRS isn't stupid. The primary purpose needs to be business, or you need to clearly allocate which days/expenses were business vs. personal.
This is really helpful info, thank you! How many hours would I need to spend on my rental business for it to be considered "material participation"? And does managing my existing rooms count toward that total if I'm also using those hours to justify business travel to look at other properties?
For material participation in a short-term rental business, you generally need to meet one of several tests, but the most common is spending more than 500 hours per year on the activity. For smaller rental operations, there's also a 100-hour test if you have the most participation of any individual in the activity. Yes, all the time you spend managing your existing rental rooms absolutely counts toward your material participation hours. This includes time communicating with guests, cleaning, maintenance, bookkeeping, researching prices, updating listings, processing payments, etc. All of this builds your case for being actively engaged in the rental business, which supports both the material participation standard and justifies business travel to expand your existing operation.
Is anyone using TurboTax for their rental properties? I'm trying to figure out if I need to upgrade to their premium version or if the deluxe is enough to handle my two rental rooms situation similar to OP.
You definitely need at least TurboTax Premier for rental properties. The Deluxe version won't have the Schedule E forms you need. I tried doing it with Deluxe last year and had to upgrade halfway through. Save yourself the headache.
Alina Rosenthal
Something that nobody's mentioned yet - if your kid is just filing a simple return with only W-2 income, you can use most tax software's free version for them. I set up separate accounts for both my teenagers and walked them through filing their own returns last year. Great learning experience for them and super easy since they just had basic W-2 jobs.
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Kristian Bishop
ā¢That's a great idea! Which tax software did you find easiest for teenagers to use? I'd like to start teaching my kids about taxes too.
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Alina Rosenthal
ā¢I found FreeTaxUSA to be the simplest for my kids. The interface is clean without a bunch of upsells that confuse them. TurboTax also has a free option that works fine for basic W-2 income, but they push paid upgrades more aggressively which frustrated my teens. The key was sitting with them the first time and explaining each section. Now my 18-year-old handles it completely on her own, and my 16-year-old only needs a little guidance. It's definitely worth the time investment to teach them this life skill early!
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Finnegan Gunn
Don't forget about potential state filing requirements too! Federal and state rules for dependents can be different. My daughter didn't need to file a federal return based on her income, but our state required her to file because the threshold was lower. Found this out the hard way last year and had to scramble to submit her state return before the deadline.
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Miguel Harvey
ā¢This is so true. I'm in California and our state threshold is different from federal. Worth checking your specific state requirements early!
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