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One thing to consider - the CPA exam itself is BRUTAL. I failed FAR twice before passing. If you didn't major in accounting, you might need to spend extra time on exam prep. I'd recommend starting the study process while you're still completing your educational requirements.
Which review course did you use? I'm trying to decide between Becker, Roger CPA, and Wiley.
Just wanted to add that I'm a CPA who came from a biology background! It took me about 2.5 years to complete all the requirements while working full time. The online route is totally doable. I took courses through my state university's online program and a community college. Don't get discouraged when the courses get tough - accounting builds on itself, so the beginning is always the hardest part for career changers. By the time you're in intermediate accounting, you'll have a solid foundation!
I went through almost this exact situation at a dermatology clinic last year! Controlled schedule, on-site work, using their equipment, yet they wanted to classify me as an independent contractor. Here's what I learned: 1. Don't fill out that W-9 if you believe you're an employee. You can provide a written statement explaining why you believe you're misclassified instead. 2. The SS-8 form is exactly what you need. It asks detailed questions about your work arrangement so the IRS can make a determination. 3. Document EVERYTHING. Save all communications, work schedules, evidence of supervision, etc. 4. If they've already paid you, you'll need to report that income regardless. But you can file Form 8919 with your taxes to pay only the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes. My former employer was furious when they got contacted by the IRS, but ultimately the determination came back that I was indeed an employee. They had to pay their portion of employment taxes plus penalties. It took about 7 months for the whole process.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have any issues with the employer retaliating against you? I'm worried about using them as a reference for future jobs if I file an SS-8.
That's a valid concern. I did face some initial hostility - they definitely knew I was the one who filed the SS-8, and I received a pretty nasty email about it. However, I was fortunate that I had already secured another position and didn't need them as a reference. If you're concerned about references, I recommend lining up alternative references from colleagues or supervisors who might be sympathetic to your situation. Also, many employers now only confirm dates of employment rather than providing detailed references due to liability concerns. Another option is to be proactive and have a calm, professional conversation with your former employer explaining that you're simply trying to ensure your taxes are filed correctly. Sometimes approaching it from a "I need to make sure I'm doing this right" angle rather than an accusatory one can help maintain the relationship. That said, some employers will still be upset regardless of how you approach it.
Hey, just a heads up - my wife is an accountant and says you should request a copy of your Homebase time records ASAP before they potentially "disappear." Those records are gold for proving you were treated as an employee. One of her clients was in a similar situation and getting those timekeeping records was crucial to their successful misclassification case. Also, her firm sees these cases all the time and they've had great success with the SS-8 process. The typical turnaround time is 6-8 months for a determination, but it's absolutely worth doing. From what you've described, this is pretty much a textbook case of misclassification. One last thing - don't worry too much about the SSN issue. Your employer already has your SSN if you worked there, and filing the SS-8 doesn't create additional risk. If anything, having an open case with the IRS might actually provide some protection because they'll be more aware if something suspicious happens with your tax records.
Is there a time limit for filing the SS-8? I had something similar happen 2 years ago but never did anything about it.
Another option is to check with your local office supply stores. Stores like Staples, Office Depot, or even Walmart sometimes sell tax form kits that include templates (usually on CD or as a download code) along with the physical forms. These are usually made by companies like Adams or TOPS. I used one last year and the templates were pretty basic Excel files, but they were precisely formatted to line up with the official forms. Cost me around $40 for the kit but it saved a ton of headache.
Do those store-bought kits usually include multiple forms? I need to do about 15 1099-MISCs this year, and some packages I've seen only include 5 forms.
The kits vary, but most I've seen include 10-25 forms plus one or two 1096 summary forms. If you need more, you can usually buy additional forms separately. The important part is that once you have the template software, you can print as many forms as you need if you purchase additional blank forms. Look for kits labeled as "1099 & 1096 Kit for Laser and Inkjet Printers" or something similar. Just be sure to check that it's for the current tax year, as the forms do change occasionally.
Just a reminder for everyone that the rules changed in recent years - most independent contractor payments that used to go on 1099-MISC now need to be reported on 1099-NEC instead. Make sure you're using the right form!
This tripped me up last year! To clarify, what exactly is supposed to go on 1099-MISC now vs 1099-NEC? I have both contractors and some royalty payments.
I accidentally filed everything on 1099-MISC last year even though they should have been on NEC, and had to amend all of them. What a nightmare.
The article referenced is about Peter Thiel, who basically put PayPal founder shares valued at less than a penny each into his Roth IRA back in 1999. When PayPal went public, those shares exploded in value. He then used the proceeds to make other investments inside the Roth, continuing to grow it tax-free. What's important to understand is this: technically, anyone can use a self-directed Roth IRA to invest in alternative assets including private company shares. The challenge for normal folks is: 1) Having access to those potentially explosive investments 2) Getting them at valuations low enough to fit within contribution limits 3) Having enough insider knowledge to identify future unicorns While we can't replicate Thiel's strategy exactly, self-directed IRAs do allow investments beyond typical stocks/bonds. You can invest in real estate, private equity, startups, precious metals, etc. Just be careful of prohibited transaction rules - you can't self-deal or invest in closely related businesses.
Has anyone here actually set up a self-directed Roth IRA? What's involved in the process and what are the ongoing costs? I've heard there are specialized custodians required and wondering if it's worthwhile for smaller accounts.
I set up a self-directed Roth IRA about 3 years ago. The process involves finding a custodian that specializes in alternative assets - companies like Equity Trust, Directed IRA, or IRA Financial Group. You complete their paperwork, transfer funds from an existing Roth or make a new contribution, and then direct investments through their platform. The costs vary significantly between custodians. Most charge an annual fee (typically $200-600 depending on account size) plus transaction fees for each investment. Some charge based on number of assets held, others on account value. For smaller accounts under $50,000, these fees can significantly impact returns, so I'd recommend having at least $75,000-100,000 before considering this route to make the administrative costs worthwhile relative to potential returns.
One regular-person strategy I've used that's helped maximize my Roth is appropriate asset location across accounts. I keep my highest growth potential investments (small cap stocks, emerging markets) in the Roth, while my more conservative investments (bonds, dividend stocks) stay in traditional retirement accounts. Over 10 years, this has made a noticeable difference because the investments that grew the most were completely tax-free in the Roth, while the slower-growing investments in traditional accounts will be taxed at potentially lower rates in retirement. Obviously nothing like the tech billionaire strategy, but it's something practical anyone can implement!
I've heard conflicting advice about this though. Some advisors say to put bonds in the Roth because they generate regular income that would be taxed, and growth stocks in taxable accounts where you can harvest losses and get long-term capital gains rates. What made you choose your approach?
Amara Torres
Something to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - check if you qualify for any Section 195 startup expense treatment for some of those early LLC costs. Even if the LLC itself wasn't brand new, certain expansion activities might qualify. Also, did you have any personal guarantees on business debt during the LLC period? Sometimes there are loss opportunities related to at-risk rules that can offset some of the pass-through income.
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Alicia Stern
ā¢Thanks for these suggestions! We didn't have the LLC for long (formed it about 4 months before converting to C-Corp), so the startup expense angle might be relevant. And yes, we did personally guarantee a business line of credit during the LLC period. How would the at-risk rules potentially help in this situation?
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Amara Torres
ā¢Since your LLC was relatively new, you might be able to classify more expenses as Section 195 startup costs. This allows you to deduct up to $5,000 in the first year (subject to phase-out rules) and amortize the rest over 15 years. While not a complete solution to your problem, it could reduce the immediate tax hit. Regarding the personally guaranteed business debt - the at-risk rules essentially allow you to claim losses up to the amount you have "at risk" in the business. With a personal guarantee on business debt, you may have increased your at-risk amount, potentially allowing you to claim more losses against other income. This is complex territory though, so definitely have your tax advisor look specifically at your at-risk basis during the LLC period.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
Have you considered whether any of the LLC income might qualify for the Section 199A deduction? If so, you could potentially get a 20% deduction on the qualified business income that's passing through to your personal return. Also, if your C-Corp is doing R&D, you might be able to claim some R&D credits at the LLC level if any of that work started before the conversion. Those credits could help offset some of the personal tax liability.
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Mason Kaczka
ā¢Doesn't the 199A deduction have income limitations though? If they made $675k in just two months as an LLC, I'm guessing they're well above the phase-out thresholds.
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