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FYI for anyone using TPG - the timing can vary depending on your bank too. For me, once the amount showed in TPG, it took exactly 2 business days to change to "funded" and then another day for the money to actually hit my checking account. My credit union seems to process ACH transfers slower than some of the bigger banks.
Any idea if there's a specific time of day TPG usually updates the status? I've been checking mine literally every hour lol.
In my experience, TPG tends to update their systems overnight, so many status changes appear first thing in the morning. I noticed my status changed from "amount showing" to "funded" around 4am when I checked (I was up with a sick kid). The actual deposit to my bank account happened mid-afternoon the following day. If you filed with a major tax preparer that partners with TPG, you might also be able to set up text or email alerts for status changes so you don't have to keep checking manually.
Does anyone know why some people get their refunds direct from IRS while others go through TPG? This is my first year seeing this TPG stuff and I'm confused why my money has to go through a middleman at all???
Something important nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're calculating the loss correctly. It's not just what it costs to replace the stolen/damaged items. For tax purposes, casualty loss is the lesser of: 1) Your adjusted basis in the property (usually what you paid plus improvements) 2) The decrease in fair market value caused by the casualty/theft So if you bought a couch 5 years ago for $1000 that's now only worth $400 (before theft), your casualty loss would be $400, not $1000. This catches a lot of people off guard.
So does that mean if something old gets stolen, you basically get no deduction because it was already depreciated in value? Like if thieves take a 10-year-old TV that's practically worthless now but costs $500 to replace?
That's exactly right - and it's why casualty losses often end up being less than people expect. If your 10-year-old TV had depreciated to a fair market value of only $50 before it was stolen, that's your deduction amount (not the $500 replacement cost). However, for the business/rental portion of your property, you've likely been taking depreciation deductions already, so your adjusted basis should align more closely with the current value. This is actually one advantage of the business portion of casualty losses - they're generally calculated based on the depreciated value that you've been reporting for tax purposes all along.
Random but important tip: if your deductible exceeds your loss so you don't file an insurance claim, still document EVERYTHING as if you were filing. Take dated photos, get written repair estimates, and keep all receipts. The IRS is super picky about casualty loss documentation. I got audited for a rental property casualty loss and they wanted proof I tried to recover through insurance first before claiming the tax deduction. Luckily I had emails with my insurance agent discussing the claim and how it was below my deductible.
Don't forget to look into penalty abatement! If this is your first time having tax issues (sounds like it is), you can request what's called "First-Time Penalty Abatement" which can reduce your total by removing the failure-to-pay penalties. This won't eliminate your tax debt, but it could knock off a significant chunk of what you owe. You'll still need to pay the actual tax amount and interest, but removing penalties helps a lot. Also, make sure you've fixed your W-4 with your employer immediately so you don't keep digging a deeper hole!
I haven't heard about the penalty abatement before! That would be amazing if I could reduce the amount at all. And yes, I fixed my W-4 immediately when I discovered the issue - now they're withholding the correct amount (actually a bit extra to try to make up some ground). Is the penalty abatement something I can apply for myself or do I need to hire someone?
You can absolutely request penalty abatement yourself! Call the IRS (or use that Claimyr service someone mentioned if you're having trouble getting through) and specifically ask for "First-Time Penalty Abatement." Explain that you've had a good compliance history before this mistake, and that you've already fixed your W-4 to prevent it from happening again. Be polite and straightforward with the IRS agent. They can often approve this over the phone. If they do deny you for some reason, you can also submit a written request. Just make sure you're specific about requesting the First-Time Abatement provision - sometimes less experienced agents aren't familiar with it.
Just wanted to add that I went through almost this exact situation last year! I accidentally claimed exempt when I started a new job and ended up owing around $10K. I panicked too. I ended up calling the IRS directly and setting up a payment plan. My monthly payment is $178 for 72 months. They were actually really understanding about the whole thing. The person I spoke with explained that this happens WAY more often than you'd think. Don't waste your money on one of those tax relief companies you see advertising on TV. Most of them charge thousands of dollars to do exactly what you can do yourself for free.
Did you get hit with a lot of penalties and interest? I'm curious how much extra you ended up paying because of the mistake.
Going back to your original question about your CPA - I'd recommend interviewing a few other accountants before tax season starts. I've found that some CPAs get complacent with long-term clients or are just too overworked to give proper attention. When I switched to a new CPA two years ago, she found nearly $4k in tax savings my previous guy had missed over the years. One tip: ask potential CPAs specific questions about your situation (self-employment tax, home office, medical expenses) and see how detailed their answers are. The good ones will take time to explain rather than dismissing your questions.
Thank you for this advice. I've been hesitant to "break up" with my CPA because we have history, but you're right that I should at least talk to other professionals. Do you have any suggestions for the best time to interview new CPAs? I'm guessing they're all super busy during actual tax season.
November to early December is the ideal time to interview new CPAs. Most have wrapped up extension filings from the previous season but haven't yet been swamped with year-end planning and new tax season work. They'll have more time to thoroughly review your situation and answer questions. October can also work, but by January they're starting to get busy, and by February they're usually not taking new clients until after April 15th. If you wait until actual tax season, you'll likely end up with whoever has availability, not necessarily the best fit for your needs.
Has your CPA explained WHY they don't think you need to make quarterly payments? There are some exceptions. For instance, if your withholding from your W-2 job covers at least 90% of your total tax liability or 100% of your previous year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150k), you might be exempt from making estimated payments despite the self-employment income.
This is really important! My wife and I had a similar situation, but our CPA had us increase our W-2 withholding instead of making quarterly payments. It accomplished the same thing (meeting our tax obligations) but with less paperwork. Worth asking if that's what your CPA was thinking.
Simon White
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you have a spouse and file jointly, your spouse can file an injured spouse claim (Form 8379) to get their portion of the refund protected from your debts. My husband had old student loans, and we were able to still get part of our refund by filing this form.
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Josef Tearle
โขThat's really good to know but unfortunately I'm single so that won't help in my situation. Do you know if there's anything similar for individual filers? Like some kind of hardship exception?
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Simon White
โขThere is a hardship exception you can request, but it's very specific to each type of debt. For federal student loans, you'd need to contact your loan servicer directly to request a hardship exception to the offset. They'll send you paperwork to prove extreme financial hardship. For state tax debts, you'd need to contact your state tax authority directly - each state has different criteria for hardship exceptions. Just be aware that these exceptions are pretty rare and usually require documented evidence of severe financial distress. Things like pending eviction, utility shutoffs, or medical emergencies sometimes qualify.
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Hugo Kass
Has anyone tried adjusting their withholding to get less of a refund? I got hit with an offset last year and my tax guy suggested changing my W-4 so I get more in each paycheck and less of a refund. That way there's less for them to take at tax time.
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Nasira Ibanez
โขI did this after getting burned by an offset two years in a row. Changed my withholding so I'm just about even at tax time instead of getting a big refund. Now I put the extra amount from each paycheck into a separate savings account. Even if I still owe the debt, at least I'm controlling when and how much I pay instead of having the whole lump sum taken.
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