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My mom had this exact issue but with a $156 bill. Turns out the IRS had sent multiple notices to her old address even though she had filed with her new address for years. By the time she found out about it, her credit score had already dropped 40 points! She had to file Form 911 (Taxpayer Advocate Service) to get help, and it took almost 6 months to get resolved and removed from her credit report. Don't wait on this - the longer it sits in collections, the harder it is to fix.
Thanks for sharing this. Did your mom have to pay the amount while disputing it? I'm tempted to just pay the $97 to make this go away, but I'm also upset about potentially taking a credit hit for something I never knew about.
Yes, she did pay it while disputing. The IRS representative told her that paying it wouldn't be seen as admitting fault, but would stop additional interest and penalties from accruing while the dispute was being processed. She still fought to have the collection mark removed from her credit report though, which was the more important part. The Taxpayer Advocate helped her file the right paperwork to show she never received proper notice. If you can prove you updated your address and the IRS still sent notices to the old one, you have a strong case to get the collection removed from your credit report even if you pay the bill.
$97 is such a small amount to send to collections! The IRS is really getting aggressive these days. I had a similar issue but with a larger amount ($560). Whatever you do, DON'T ignore it. Even small collections from the IRS can escalate to wage garnishment eventually.
True! My cousin ignored a small IRS debt and ended up with a tax lien that showed up when he tried to refinance his house. Cost him thousands in higher interest rates. Even small amounts matter to the IRS!
For the work shirts issue - don't pay them a penny! Send them a formal letter (certified mail with return receipt) stating that you've returned all company property and consider the matter closed. Include that any further contact regarding this issue will be considered harassment. I had an employer try to charge me for a "lost" laptop that I had actually returned. They backed off immediately when I sent a formal letter and mentioned potential legal action for harassment. Most companies don't want the headache of small claims court over a few hundred bucks.
Would an email work instead of certified mail? I have all their texts demanding payment for the shirts, but I'm not sure I want to spend money on certified mail to these jerks.
Email isn't ideal because it's easier for them to claim they never received it. The certified mail creates an official record that they received your communication, which is important if this escalates further. The $4-5 for certified mail is worth it for the paper trail it creates. That said, if you do use email, make sure to request a read receipt and save all correspondence. The texts demanding payment are good evidence already, so keep those too. The key is documenting everything in case you need to prove harassment later or defend yourself if they try to send this to collections.
Has anyone considered that maybe the employer is deliberately underreporting wages to the IRS to save on their portion of payroll taxes? This happened at my wife's job and it turned out the company was doing it to EVERYONE. The IRS actually rewarded employees who reported this with a percentage of what they recovered from the company.
That's a good point - OP should look up the IRS Whistleblower Program. If the employer is systematically underreporting wages, the IRS takes that very seriously and you could potentially get a reward if your information leads to the recovery of unpaid taxes. The reward can be 15-30% of what the IRS collects!
Don't forget about marketplace facilitator laws! If you're selling on Etsy, they're required to collect and remit sales tax in most states regardless of your nexus situation. This helps with compliance but doesn't completely eliminate your responsibility. I learned the hard way that even though Etsy was collecting sales tax, I still needed to be registered in some states and file returns (sometimes zero-dollar returns). Each state has different requirements for marketplace sellers. Your own website sales are a different story though - for those, you're entirely responsible for collection and remittance.
Oh that's really helpful to know about Etsy! So for my own website sales, do I need separate sales tax permits for each state once I hit their thresholds? And how exactly do I remit the taxes I collect?
Yes, you'll need to register for sales tax permits in each state once you meet their economic nexus thresholds. For your own website sales, you'll be responsible for calculating the correct rate (which can vary by city/county within states), collecting it from customers, and then filing returns and submitting payment to each state. Filing frequencies vary by state and sometimes depend on your sales volume - some might require monthly filing while others are quarterly or annual. Most states now have online filing systems, but each works differently. Some states also require prepayment or bonding for new registrants, so plan ahead before you hit thresholds.
Don't make the same mistake I did! I ignored sales tax for the first year of my business thinking "I'm too small for them to care" and ended up with a surprise audit and $7,300 in back taxes, penalties and interest. Start right even if you're small!
Yikes, what triggered the audit? Was it just random or did something specific catch their attention? I'm wondering what red flags to avoid.
One thing that helped me with a similar situation was getting old bank statements. Even though you mentioned the IRS only had recent transcripts, your bank might have records going back further. Most major banks keep statements for 7+ years, and some even longer. Even partial statements can help establish income patterns. Also, if you filed any returns during those years (like state returns), those can provide clues about your income. Same with mortgage applications or loan documents from that period - they usually include income verification. For the oldest years where you truly have no documentation, be reasonable but conservative in your estimates. The IRS mainly wants to see that you're making an effort to comply.
I actually called my old bank and they only keep records for 7 years so that only helps with the most recent missing returns. Did you have any luck explaining your situation to the IRS? Were they understanding about the estimation approach?
In my experience, the IRS was surprisingly reasonable once I explained my situation clearly. The key was documenting my estimation methods and being consistent. For the years where you have absolutely no documentation, focus on being realistic rather than punitive to yourself. I included a detailed cover letter with each return explaining exactly why I had no records and the methodology I used to create my estimates. The agent I eventually worked with appreciated the transparency and it made the negotiation process much easier. Remember that they deal with record loss situations frequently - you're not the first person to go through this.
Don't forget to check with the Social Security Administration too! They might have some records of any income that was reported under your SSN during those years, even if the IRS doesn't have the full returns anymore. This can give you another data point for your estimates. You can request your Social Security Statement online through their website pretty easily and it shows annual reported earnings.
Nia Thompson
Just a heads up - even though your 2022 return was accepted, you might still face a late filing penalty IF you owed taxes (which you don't, so you're probably fine since you're getting a refund). For anyone else reading this who missed filing and OWED money, you'll likely face both late filing and late payment penalties. The late filing penalty is usually 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. The late payment penalty is typically 0.5% of unpaid taxes per month, up to 25%.
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Mateo Rodriguez
ā¢Can you claim reasonable cause to avoid penalties? My mom got really sick last year and I completely forgot to file my 2022 taxes until recently.
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Nia Thompson
ā¢Yes, the IRS does accept reasonable cause explanations for waiving penalties in certain circumstances, and a serious illness in the family can definitely qualify. You'll need to attach a signed statement explaining the situation when you file your late return. Be specific about the timeline of your mother's illness and how it prevented you from filing on time. Make sure to gather any supporting documentation you can, like medical records or doctor's notes. The more documentation you have, the stronger your case will be. Just be aware that the IRS reviews these on a case-by-case basis, so there's no guarantee, but they do often show leniency in genuine hardship situations.
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Aisha Hussain
Something similar happened to me but my e-file for 2022 was rejected cause of an IP PIN issue. Had to paper file instead. Anyone know if paper filing for prior year returns is taking forever right now?
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GalacticGladiator
ā¢Paper filing is STILL a nightmare. Sent my 2022 return by mail in January and it took almost 4 months to process. Definitely e-file if you possibly can. The IRS backlog for paper returns is insane.
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