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Just to add another real-world example of how W-9s work: I run a small photography business and I collect W-9s from all my second shooters and assistants. I keep them on file, and anyone I pay $600+ during the year gets a 1099-NEC in January. The W-9 is super important because if someone refuses to give me one, I'm technically supposed to withhold 24% of their payment for backup withholding! Nobody wants that, so it's in everyone's best interest to just complete the form.
Quick question - if someone fills out the W-9 but doesn't check any of the business entity boxes and just puts their SSN, how do you know whether to issue a 1099-NEC or 1099-MISC? My lawn care guy gave me his W-9 but I'm confused about which form to use.
If they just put their SSN and don't check any business entity boxes, they're most likely an individual/sole proprietor (the first box on the form), and you would issue them a 1099-NEC for services they provided. The 1099-NEC is specifically for nonemployee compensation - basically paying someone for services when they're not your employee. The 1099-MISC is now used for other types of payments like rent, prizes and awards, medical payments, etc. - but not for services anymore. A few years ago the IRS split these forms, and service payments that used to go on the MISC now go on the NEC form.
Don't forget that just cuz you fill out a W-9 doesnt automatically make you a contractor! The IRS has specific rules about who can be classified as an independent contractor vs an employee. If your working situation looks more like employment (they control when/where/how you work), you might actually need to be classified as an employee with a W-4 instead of a W-9, even if the company wants to treat you as a contractor to avoid paying employment taxes.
Something nobody's mentioned - if you qualify for a credit but choose not to claim it, you can still amend your return later (within 3 years) if you change your mind. So if you skip the Saver's Credit this year to avoid fees, but later find a free way to file an amended return with Form 8880, you could still get that money. Just file Form 1040X with the additional credit. Though honestly, with the suggestions above about using Free File options, you probably won't need to go this route.
How difficult is it to file an amended return? I've always been scared to do it because I heard it increases your audit risk. Is that true?
Filing an amended return isn't particularly difficult - you file Form 1040X showing the changes from your original return. You'll need to include any forms related to the changes (like Form 8880 for the Saver's Credit). That's actually a common misconception about audits. Filing an amendment doesn't automatically increase your audit risk, especially for something straightforward like adding a credit you qualified for but didn't initially claim. The IRS is mainly concerned with significant changes that reduce your tax liability by large amounts without clear justification.
Has anyone tried using Credit Karma Tax (now Cash App Taxes)? I filed with them last year and they included the Saver's Credit form without charging extra. Completely free filing including all forms. They don't have a pay-with-refund option though, so no extra fees there either.
3 Another important point - your AGI affects A LOT of other things on your tax return! It can determine eligibility for certain credits, deductions, and even things like student loan repayment plans or Medicare premiums. For example, I learned that reducing my AGI by increasing my traditional 401k contributions helped me qualify for the student loan interest deduction, which I was previously phased out of. Calculating it correctly is super important!
7 How much does AGI affect the amount of taxes taken out of your paycheck each month? I feel like I always owe more at tax time, even when I claim 0 allowances.
3 Your AGI doesn't directly affect the taxes taken out of your paycheck. Your paycheck withholding is based on the W-4 form you fill out and the withholding tables your employer uses. If you consistently owe at tax time, you might need to update your W-4 to have additional withholding taken out. The 2025 W-4 doesn't use allowances anymore - instead, you can specify an additional dollar amount to withhold from each paycheck. Another option is to make quarterly estimated tax payments if you have significant income not subject to withholding.
16 PSA: Taxable income ā AGI ā Modified AGI (MAGI) I spent hours trying to figure out why I didn't qualify for a Roth IRA contribution even though my "income" seemed under the limit. Turns out: 1. AGI = Gross income - adjustments (401k, HSA, etc) 2. MAGI = AGI + certain deductions added back (like student loan interest) 3. Taxable income = AGI - standard/itemized deduction They're all different and used for different purposes! The one that matters for Roth IRA eligibility is MAGI, not AGI.
13 This! And don't forget about state AGI calculations which might be different from federal. I got audited by NY state because their AGI calculation didn't match federal, and I had used the federal number for state tax calculations.
Have you tried contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service? They're an independent organization within the IRS designed to help taxpayers who are experiencing hardship or having problems that haven't been resolved through normal IRS channels. Their number is 877-777-4778. They might be able to help escalate your issue, especially if you're facing a deadline.
The Taxpayer Advocate Service is practically useless these days. I tried contacting them for help with an identity theft issue and they told me they're so backlogged they're only taking "extreme hardship" cases. Apparently owing the IRS $9,000 I don't actually owe isn't "extreme" enough lol.
That's disappointing but unfortunately not surprising. Their resources have been stretched thin over the past few years. For identity theft cases specifically, the IRS has a specialized unit you can contact directly at 800-908-4490. They handle cases where someone filed a fraudulent return using your information. For the incorrect tax debt situation, you might need to send a formal written dispute with certified mail. It's slower but creates an official record of your dispute that's harder for them to ignore. The key is to explicitly state the economic hardship the incorrect assessment is causing you - using those specific terms can help get your case prioritized.
If you're having trouble with the IRS website, have you considered using a different browser or clearing your cache? Sometimes their site has weird compatibility issues. Also double check that you're on the official irs.gov site and not some spoofed version. There are a ton of scam sites that look like the IRS.
This isn't a browser issue, it's the IRS being understaffed and overwhelmed. No amount of clearing cache is going to make them respond to a submitted ticket faster š
MoonlightSonata
I've used both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA, and I'll say this: if you have extremely simple taxes (just a W-2 and maybe some basic deductions), the free version of TurboTax is fine. But the moment you have anything even slightly complex - a 1099, HSA, student loan interest, investment income, etc. - they force you into the paid versions which get expensive fast. FreeTaxUSA handles ALL of those situations in their free federal version. Their interface isn't as pretty but it asks all the same questions and gets you the same refund. I switched 3 years ago and have saved over $300 total while getting identical refunds. Another thing worth mentioning is that TurboTax (Intuit) has actively lobbied against simplified tax filing for years. They literally spend millions trying to keep taxes complicated so you'll pay them to solve the problems they helped create. That alone made me want to switch.
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Mateo Gonzalez
ā¢Did you notice any difference in the refund amounts between the two? I've heard rumors that TurboTax somehow finds more deductions, but that sounds suspicious to me.
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MoonlightSonata
ā¢I actually did a test one year and entered the exact same information in both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA. The refund amount was identical down to the dollar. The tax code is the tax code - as long as you enter the same information correctly, you should get the same result regardless of which software you use. The perception that TurboTax finds more deductions probably comes from their marketing and the way they phrase things during the interview process. They're very good at making it seem like they're discovering special deductions for you, when in reality they're just asking about standard deductions that any tax software should cover. FreeTaxUSA asks about all the same deductions, just with less flashy presentation.
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Nia Williams
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is state filing. TurboTax charges like $40-50 EXTRA for each state return on top of the federal price. FreeTaxUSA charges $14.99 for state returns. If you live in a state with income tax or work across state lines, this is a huge difference!
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Luca Ricci
ā¢You can actually file state taxes directly through most state websites for free! I use FreeTaxUSA for federal and then just go to my state's department of revenue website to file state taxes. Takes maybe 15 extra minutes but saves the $15.
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Nia Williams
ā¢That's a great tip! I never thought about filing directly with the state. Does it require you to manually enter all the same information again, or can you import data from your federal return?
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