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Giovanni Conti

25 yr old, self-employed since 19, never filed taxes - how screwed am I?

I've been working as a self-employed person since I was 19 and have never filed a single tax return. I know, I know... it was stupid. I worked briefly as a W2 employee when I was 17 for about 6 months but I'm pretty sure I made under $12k during that time. For the past 7 years, I've been working as a plumber for a construction company. The owner pays me in cash and has never given me any tax forms. I just take the money and go about my life. I haven't even thought about taxes until recently when a friend mentioned potential penalties. I'm starting to panic about what I'm facing for the upcoming tax season. I have no idea what kind of penalties or back taxes I might owe. Do I need to file returns for all those missing years? Should I talk to a tax professional? How screwed am I financially for ignoring this for so long?

You definitely need to address this situation, but it's likely not as catastrophic as you might be imagining. The IRS generally focuses more on collecting taxes owed than punishing people who come forward voluntarily. First, you should determine if you were actually required to file for those years. Self-employed individuals generally must file if their net earnings were $400 or more. For your W2 job at 17, if you were under the filing threshold, you weren't required to file. For the years you were self-employed, you'll need to file back taxes. The IRS typically looks for the last 6 years, though technically there's no time limit when returns weren't filed. You'll need to: 1) Gather any documentation of your income 2) Estimate your earnings for each year 3) File separate tax returns for each year you were required to file You'll likely face some penalties and interest, but the IRS offers payment plans. Most importantly, get professional help - a CPA or tax attorney specializing in back taxes can be worth their weight in gold in situations like yours.

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NeonNova

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Do you think they should do a voluntary disclosure to the IRS before filing? I've heard that can reduce penalties if you come forward before they come after you.

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Voluntary disclosure is definitely an option worth considering. The IRS does often view taxpayers who come forward voluntarily more favorably than those who wait until they're caught. This approach can sometimes result in reduced penalties, though it doesn't eliminate them entirely. For a situation spanning several years of unfiled returns, working with a tax professional who can guide you through the voluntary disclosure process would be valuable. They can help present your case in the best possible light and negotiate with the IRS on your behalf.

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I was in almost the exact same situation a few years back - working construction getting paid under the table, no taxes filed for like 5 years. Tried to figure it out myself and got completely overwhelmed with all the forms and calculating what I owed for each year. Finally used this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me organize everything. You upload whatever income docs you have (even if it's just bank statements), and they figure out what you likely made each year, what deductions you probably qualify for as a plumber, and what forms you need to file for each year. It was actually way less terrifying than I thought! The best part was they found a bunch of business expenses I could deduct that I had no idea about - tools, mileage, even part of my phone bill since I used it for work calls. Ended up owing way less than I feared.

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Does it actually work with cash income though? Like if OP doesn't have documentation of what he was paid over the years, can this service still help?

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I'm skeptical of any service claiming to help with tax issues that serious. Wouldn't you need an actual tax attorney for something involving years of unfiled taxes? Sounds risky to trust an AI with potential legal issues.

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It actually does work with cash income! They help you reconstruct your income using whatever records you do have - bank deposits, cash purchases, living expenses. You can estimate based on what you remember making, and they help make it reasonable and defensible if the IRS has questions. For legal protection, they partner with actual tax pros - not just AI doing calculations. They helped me figure out which years I needed to prioritize and which ones I might have been under the filing threshold. They don't replace legal advice if you're already under audit, but for voluntarily catching up on unfiled returns, they were perfect for my situation.

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So I actually tried taxr.ai after my skeptical comment above. I was really surprised how helpful it was. I had a similar situation (though only 3 years unfiled) and was freaking out about potential penalties. The service walked me through reconstructing my income year by year, and even found business deductions I didn't know I could claim as a contractor. They organized everything so I could easily file the back tax returns myself. I went from thinking I'd owe like $20k in taxes and penalties to actually getting a small refund for one of the years! What I appreciated most was that they were honest about the risks and didn't promise I wouldn't face any consequences, but they helped me understand the realistic outcomes and get everything in order to fix the situation.

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Ava Thompson

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One problem you're going to face is actually getting someone at the IRS to help with this mess. I tried calling them about my unfiled returns last year and spent HOURS on hold only to get disconnected. Did this like 5 times before giving up. I finally used this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 15 minutes. They have this weird system that basically waits on hold for you and calls you when an agent picks up. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent was actually super helpful once I explained I was trying to come clean about not filing. They walked me through the process and even told me which years they were most concerned about. Made the whole thing way less scary.

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Miguel Ramos

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Wait, how does that even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Does this service actually charge you just to get through to the IRS?

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Sounds like a scam honestly. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS for me? I'd be worried they're just taking your money and not actually doing anything special. The IRS phone lines are public - anyone can call them.

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Ava Thompson

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It works by using their system to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold, then when an agent finally answers, it calls your phone and connects you directly to that agent. Basically saves you from sitting on hold for hours. Yes, they do charge for the service, but after wasting entire afternoons trying to get through myself, it was worth it to me. They don't talk to the IRS for you or get any of your personal info - they just connect the call and then you handle everything directly with the IRS agent.

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After bashing it I decided to try it because I was desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my unfiled returns. This service actually worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back in about 45 minutes (way faster than the hours I spent trying myself), and was connected to an actual IRS representative. The agent walked me through exactly what I needed to do for my unfiled returns and which forms to use. They even explained how the penalty system works and gave me tips on how to request a penalty abatement for "reasonable cause" since this was my first time having tax issues. If you're dealing with years of unfiled returns like the original poster, actually talking to the IRS directly helps so much with the anxiety of the unknown.

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Something no one has mentioned yet - you might actually be OWED money by the IRS if you had any withholding from that W2 job when you were 17. If you were under the filing threshold but had taxes withheld, you could have been due a refund. Unfortunately, you can only claim refunds for 3 years back, so that money is probably gone now. But going forward, make sure you're looking at the whole picture - it's not always just about what you owe them.

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I never even thought about that. Is it possible I missed out on refunds from my self-employment years too? I definitely had some business expenses that I'm guessing would have been deductible.

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Yes, it's entirely possible you could have qualified for refunds during your self-employment years too. As a self-employed plumber, you likely had significant business expenses that would have been deductible - tools, supplies, vehicle expenses, mileage, possibly even a portion of your phone bill or home expenses if you used them for business purposes. The unfortunate reality is that if those potential refunds were from more than 3 years ago, they're likely forfeited. However, this is even more reason to get current with your tax filing - you might be leaving money on the table for more recent years, and you'll want to properly claim your legitimate business deductions going forward.

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StarSailor

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I work in construction too and my boss paid me under the table for years. Finally got caught when I tried to get a mortgage and couldn't prove my income. My advice - fix this BEFORE you need a loan, want to buy a house, or try to do anything that requires proof of income. Not filing makes life complicated in ways you don't expect until you hit them. Plus, you're missing out on things like Social Security credits that will matter when you're older.

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This is such an important point! I couldn't qualify for an apartment I wanted because I couldn't provide tax returns. Also had issues with my car loan application. Being off the tax grid causes so many unexpected problems.

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