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Have you considered setting up a more formal arrangement like a Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) program with the school? My brother did something similar where he: 1. Created a formal business entity for the orchard 2. Set up the CSA with the school as the primary customer 3. Then donated most of the profits back to the school This gave him business deductions for the orchard maintenance plus charitable deductions for the donations. His accountant said this was much cleaner from a tax perspective than trying to donate "use" of the property.
Wouldn't creating a business entity and then donating back the profits create more paperwork and possibly more taxes than it saves? Seems like you'd have to report all the income first, pay self-employment taxes on it, and then get a deduction for the donation. Am I missing something?
You raise a good point about the additional paperwork - it definitely creates more administrative work. However, it can still be advantageous in certain situations. The business entity allows you to deduct all legitimate expenses related to the orchard maintenance (equipment, supplies, utilities, property taxes, etc.) against the income. These are deductions you might not otherwise get. While you would pay self-employment tax on the net profit, if your expenses are significant, the net taxable amount could be minimal.
Just wanted to add - we did something similar with our maple syrup operation and the local school. Our tax guy set it up as an educational easement on the property, which gave us a one-time deduction for the easement value (which was substantial!), while still letting us own the property. It's more permanent than what you might want, but the tax benefits were significant upfront rather than spread over many years.
Did you have to get a professional appraisal for that educational easement? And was there a minimum time commitment? I'm curious because I have property I'd consider for something similar but don't want to be locked in for decades.
Be careful here! I was in a very similar situation and claimed HOH with our 50/50 custody. My ex did the same and we BOTH got audited. Make sure you have extremely detailed records of exactly which days your child was with you. The IRS made me provide a calendar with all overnight stays highlighted, plus supporting evidence (school records, medical visits, etc). I eventually won my case because I could prove my daughter was with me 210 days that year, but it was a stressful process. If your divorce decree specifically addresses who claims tax benefits, that can also be considered.
Thanks for the heads up! Did you have to provide any specific type of documentation that worked best? I've been keeping a shared Google calendar that shows all the custody exchanges and extra days, plus I have most of her school forms and doctor visits showing my address. Would text messages with my ex about schedule changes help too?
The most compelling evidence I provided was a detailed calendar showing all overnight stays, backed up by school attendance records (they showed which parent dropped off/picked up on which days). Text messages absolutely helped - I had several exchanges where my ex asked me to take extra days, which supported my case. Medical receipts showing I paid and was present for appointments were also useful. The IRS agent told me they look for consistent evidence from multiple sources. Make sure everything matches - don't claim your child was with you on days where there's evidence they were at the other parent's home. Consistency across different types of documentation is what ultimately won my case.
Something nobody has mentioned yet - check if your divorce decree has any specific language about tax benefits! Mine says we alternate years for claiming our child as a dependent, but it's completely silent on filing status. My lawyer confirmed that HOH status is determined by IRS rules regardless of what our agreement says about the dependent exemption. Even in years when my ex gets to claim our son as a dependent, I can still file HOH if he lived with me more than half the time. These are separate issues! Just make sure you're not violating your court order while also following IRS rules.
This is super important! My decree explicitly states that "the parent who has the child for more overnights in the tax year may claim Head of Household status" - so if yours has specific language like that, you need to follow it. Courts can hold you in contempt even if the IRS would allow something different.
Don't forget that even after you estimate your federal payment, each state handles extensions differently! I learned this the hard way. For example, California automatically gives you the extension if you get a federal one, but you still need to pay the estimated amount. New York requires its own extension form AND payment. Some states don't charge interest if your estimate is reasonable while others are strict about it. Make sure you check your specific state's rules about extensions and payments - don't assume they follow the federal guidelines.
Thanks for bringing this up! Do you know if there's a quick resource that breaks down different state requirements? My situation is even more complicated because I moved mid-year and had income in multiple states.
There isn't really one perfect resource that covers all states, but the Federation of Tax Administrators (taxadmin.org) has links to all state tax agencies where you can find the specific rules. For multi-state situations, each state you earned income in will have its own requirements. Most tax software platforms also have state-specific guidance built in if you're using one. They'll usually walk you through the proper forms needed for each state. With income in multiple states, you definitely want to be careful since some states have reciprocity agreements while others don't.
Just to add something here that nobody mentioned - make sure you remember to pay ESTIMATED TAXES too if you're self-employed or have other income without withholding! This is separate from your extension payment. Q1 estimated taxes for 2025 are also due April 15th, the same day as the 2024 tax year deadline. So you might need to make TWO payments - one for what you still owe for 2024 (your extension payment) and one for Q1 estimated taxes for 2025. I made this mistake and got hit with penalties even though I thought I'd done everything right with my extension.
8 For what it's worth, I do my taxes with a local CPA and he charges $275 for a return that includes W-2, 1098-T, and form 8936 for the EV credit. H&R Block is charging you the same as a fully licensed CPA would, which seems excessive. Most chain tax places are training seasonal workers who just input your info into the same software you could use at home.
1 Do you think it's worth finding a CPA instead of using online software? I'm worried about missing something with the credits since they're worth quite a bit of money.
8 For your situation, I think online software would be perfectly fine, especially if you use taxr.ai first to understand your specific situation. The education and EV credits are common enough now that all the major tax software handles them well. A CPA becomes more valuable when you have a business, complex investments, rental properties, or unusual tax situations. For a W-2 employee with standard credits, even if there are a couple forms involved, you're probably overpaying for a CPA or H&R Block.
15 Does anyone know if Form 8936 requires any additional documentation to be submitted with your return? I'm also claiming the EV credit this year and heard different things from different preparers.
12 You don't need to submit additional documentation with your tax return when claiming the EV credit on Form 8936, but you absolutely should keep all purchase records, VIN information, and manufacturer certification of credit eligibility in your files. The IRS may request this documentation later if your return is selected for review, so having it organized and ready is important. Keep these records for at least 3 years after filing.
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7 Something similar happened to my father last year. It turned out to be a legitimate letter but the amount was incorrect due to a missed 1099 form. A couple things to check: 1) Did your grandmother have any unusual income last year - like selling investments, taking an early withdrawal from retirement, or receiving unemployment? 2) Is there any way she could have forgotten to report some income? The IRS computers automatically match reported income from employers/banks against what's on tax returns. 3) Did she receive any prior notices? The IRS usually sends several notices before demanding payment. Ask her to check her mail carefully - sometimes people miss the earlier notices or don't understand what they mean.
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ā¢19 This is great advice. My mother got a letter because she forgot about a small stock sale that generated a capital gain. The brokerage reported it to the IRS but she forgot to include it on her return. Does your grandmother have any investments or retirement accounts?
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ā¢7 Both great questions! For unusual income, she did sell some stocks last year after my grandfather passed away. She's not very financially savvy and has been relying on their longtime accountant who's getting up there in age himself. Regarding prior notices, that's actually very possible. She doesn't open all her mail right away and sometimes sets aside things she doesn't understand. I'm going to visit her tomorrow and go through her mail from the past few months to see if there were earlier notices. The investment angle seems most likely based on your experiences. I'll definitely check on that specifically when I see the letter. Thank you both for the helpful suggestions!
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16 Be really careful about this - my grandfather almost fell for a similar scam last summer. The giveaway was that they wanted payment in gift cards (which the IRS NEVER does). What kind of payment method does the letter request?
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ā¢6 Those gift card scams are terrible! My neighbor fell for one of those and lost $2000. Definitely check the payment methods requested. The real IRS offers multiple payment options and NEVER asks for gift cards, wire transfers, or cryptocurrency.
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