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Nathan Dell

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One additional point that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your LLC invests in U.S. stocks and receives dividends, you may need to consider Form 1042/1042-S reporting if you then distribute those funds to yourself as the foreign owner. Though since you're a disregarded entity, this might be handled differently. Also, depending on how much you're investing, be aware of potential FIRPTA implications if any of your investments include U.S. real property interests (even indirectly through certain REITs). Have you considered electing to be treated as a corporation instead of maintaining disregarded entity status? In some cases, this can provide more favorable tax treatment for certain types of investment income, depending on your tax treaty.

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Norah Quay

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I haven't considered electing to be treated as a corporation - could you explain a bit more about when that might be advantageous for investment activities? Would the corporate tax rates be better than the withholding rates in some cases? And would I still need to file Form 5472 if I made that election?

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Nathan Dell

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Making an election to be treated as a corporation (Form 8832) can sometimes be advantageous because U.S. corporate tax rates might be lower than the withholding rates applied to foreign persons, especially for certain investment types. For example, while dividends are typically subject to 30% withholding (or lower with tax treaties), the corporate income tax rate is 21%. Yes, you would still need to file Form 5472 if you made the election, as it applies to 25% foreign-owned U.S. corporations. However, instead of filing a pro-forma 1120, you'd file a regular Form 1120 as an actual tax return. Another benefit is that a corporation can potentially claim deductions against income that might not be available to a foreign person receiving passive income. The downside is increased compliance requirements and potential for double taxation if you eventually distribute earnings to yourself. The optimal structure really depends on your specific situation, investment amounts, and how your country's tax treaty interacts with U.S. tax law.

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Maya Jackson

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Has anyone here used a U.S. brokerage account for their foreign-owned LLC? I'm trying to decide between Interactive Brokers, Charles Schwab, and TD Ameritrade but worried about account opening difficulties for foreign-owned LLCs.

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I've had an account with Interactive Brokers for my foreign-owned Delaware LLC for about 3 years now. They're definitely more accommodating to international structures than many other brokerages. The documentation requirements were still extensive, but their system is set up to handle foreign ownership situations. They also have good systems for handling tax withholding based on tax treaty status.

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Something else to check - did you get a confirmation when you made your payment? If you paid through the IRS Direct Pay or EFTPS, you should have received a confirmation number. You can log into those systems to verify the payment went through. I always save those confirmation numbers with my tax records just in case there's ever a question.

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Liam Murphy

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Yeah I did get a confirmation email from TurboTax when I made the payment, but it was just saying they submitted it - not that the IRS actually received it. Should I be getting something directly from the IRS too?

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Yes, you should have received a confirmation directly from the payment processor the IRS uses, not just from TurboTax. When you pay through TurboTax, they typically redirect you to an IRS-authorized payment processor, which should provide its own confirmation number. I'd recommend logging into your TurboTax account and checking the payment details section. There should be information about how your payment was processed and possibly a second confirmation number from the actual payment processor. If you can't find this, you might want to contact TurboTax support to get the payment confirmation details.

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I'm in the same situation and what I've learned is that the IRS doesn't send "approved" notices for returns where you owe money - they only tell you if something's wrong. For peace of mind, I create an account on IRS.gov every year to check my account transcript after filing. It shows all transactions including when they process your return and apply your payment. Just look for transaction code 150 (tax return filed) and code 570 (payment applied). Takes about 3 weeks after filing to show up usually.

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This is the right answer. I check my transcript every year. The transaction codes tell you everything - way more reliable than calling or using Where's My Refund.

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Thanks! Yeah I've found the transcript to be the most reliable source of information. The IRS website isn't the most user-friendly, but once you learn how to read the transaction codes, it's actually pretty straightforward. For anyone looking for this information, you want the "Account Transcript" specifically, not the "Return Transcript" - they're different documents in the IRS system.

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Mei Wong

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Just wanted to add something important about the refund time limit that hasn't been mentioned yet. You only have 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. So for 2021 taxes, you have until April 2025 to file and still get your refund. For 2020, the deadline is April 2024 (which has passed), BUT remember 2020 had special COVID extensions, so that deadline was actually May 17, 2024. If you missed that, unfortunately that refund is gone. 2022 and 2023 are still well within the window. Don't delay any further though - those refunds are YOUR money that was withheld from your paychecks!

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Ethan Davis

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Oh no, I might have missed the deadline for 2020 then! Does the IRS ever make exceptions for people who didn't know about the 3-year rule? And just to clarify, even if I can't get a refund for the older years, I should still file those returns anyway, right?

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Mei Wong

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Unfortunately, the IRS is very strict about the 3-year refund statute and doesn't make exceptions even if you didn't know about the rule. It's set by law, not IRS policy, so they can't bend it. Yes, you should still file all unfiled returns even if you can't get the refund anymore. This closes your file with the IRS and prevents future issues. While you won't get money back for those older years, filing completes your tax record and can help with things like loan applications, government benefits, or any situation where tax return information is needed. Better to have everything clean and complete than leave those old years hanging.

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Has anyone used the Free File Fillable Forms on the IRS website for past year returns? I'm in a similar situation (didn't file 2022 or 2023) but I'm trying to avoid paying for software if possible.

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PixelWarrior

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Free File Fillable Forms only work for the current tax year (so right now, only 2024). For prior years, you need to download the specific forms for those tax years from the IRS website and mail them in. I did this last year for my 2021 and 2022 returns. You can still use free tax software though! Most of the major companies (TurboTax, H&R Block, TaxSlayer) offer access to prior year returns on their websites. The catch is that you can prepare them for free, but they usually charge to file them. Since you have to mail prior year returns anyway, you can just print them out and mail them yourself without paying.

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Everyone's focused on the tax rates, but don't forget about other advantages of S-corps. The ability to minimize self-employment taxes by taking a reasonable salary plus distributions is huge. I save about $7,500 annually just from properly structuring my compensation this way compared to when I was a sole proprietor. Also, with an S-corp you can still contribute to a Solo 401k based on your salary, which helps reduce your taxable income significantly. The C-corp has other issues like accumulated earnings tax if you try to keep too much money in the business.

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Luca Russo

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What's a good ratio of salary to distributions that won't trigger IRS concerns? I've heard different things from different sources.

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There's no fixed percentage that's universally "safe" as the IRS looks at what's reasonable for your industry, experience, and business circumstances. A common approach is researching what comparable positions in your industry would pay and documenting that research. For many service businesses, I've seen recommendations ranging from 50-70% of profits as salary being reasonable, but it varies widely. Healthcare professionals often need higher salary percentages while capital-intensive businesses might justify lower percentages. The key is having solid documentation for whatever number you choose.

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Andre Moreau

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As a point of clarification, the 12% bracket you mentioned would only apply to a portion of your income anyway. Tax brackets are marginal, so you're not paying one single rate on all income. With your current W2 of 72k plus business income of 50-65k, you'd be well into the 22% bracket regardless of how you structure things.

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Zoe Stavros

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This! So many people don't understand marginal tax rates and make decisions based on completely wrong assumptions. OP needs to look at effective tax rate across all income, not just the highest bracket they hit.

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Niko Ramsey

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I think your boss is trying to avoid paying employer taxes. When he pays you in cash and doesn't report it, he's not paying his share of Social Security and Medicare taxes. Just to be clear - if you were actually an employee (not a contractor), your boss should have been giving you a W-2, not a 1099. The difference matters because: - W-2: Employer pays half of Social Security/Medicare taxes - 1099: You pay ALL Social Security/Medicare taxes yourself (self-employment tax) You might want to look at Form SS-8 to determine if you should have been classified as an employee rather than a contractor. If you were misclassified, the IRS can go after your employer for their share of taxes.

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Cole Roush

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Thanks for bringing this up - I honestly wasn't sure if I should have been getting a W-2 or 1099. My job involves framing houses and doing general construction work. I use their tools, work on their schedule, and they tell me exactly what to do and how to do it. Does that sound more like an employee situation?

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Niko Ramsey

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Based on what you've described, you sound much more like an employee than an independent contractor. The key factors the IRS looks at include: who controls when and how you work, who provides tools and equipment, how you're paid (regular wages vs. project-based), and whether the work is a key part of the business. Using their tools, working on their schedule, and having them direct your work are all strong indicators of employee status. Construction workers doing the core work of a construction company are typically employees unless there's a specific arrangement that gives the worker significant independence.

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Similar thing happened to me last year. My side gig didn't send a 1099 and kept putting me off. Here's what I did: 1. Filed my taxes anyway using my own records of what I earned (cash payment records + deposit slips) 2. Reported the income on Schedule C 3. Kept really good documentation of my attempts to get the 1099 (emails, texts, etc) 4. Submitted Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" since I suspected I was misclassified The biggest thing is don't wait to file! The April deadline (or October with extension) is for YOU, not your employer. Their failure to provide docs doesn't extend your filing deadline.

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Jabari-Jo

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Did you run into any issues with the IRS after filing this way? I'm in a similar situation and worried they'll come after me for something that wasn't my fault.

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