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Has anyone tried checking bank records? Last year the IRS's stupid tracker still said "processing" THREE DAYS AFTER the money hit my account. I'd recommend logging into your bank account to check pending deposits too, not just relying on the tracker.
This!!! Same thing happened to me two years ago. The WMR never updated past "approved" but the money showed up in my account. Their systems don't communicate well with each other.
Exactly! Their systems are so outdated and disconnected from each other. Sometimes the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. I've also noticed that if you're getting your refund via direct deposit, it sometimes shows up as pending in your bank account 1-2 days before the official deposit date the IRS gives you. Another tip: if you're using a tax preparation service like TurboTax or H&R Block and chose to have your fees taken out of your refund, your money actually goes through a third-party bank first, which can add 1-2 more days to the process. That might explain some delays too.
Anyone else notice the IRS seems to prioritize people who OWE money over people who are due refunds? My husband filed the same day as me, he owed $850 and his return was processed in 3 days. Meanwhile I'm due a $2,300 refund and I've been waiting for 23 days now with no updates. Just sayin'...
2 Has anyone successfully gotten their employer to switch from a taxable per diem to a non-taxable one? My company is doing the same thing and I'm losing thousands in taxes. What's the best way to approach HR about this without sounding like I'm telling them they're doing their job wrong?
6 I actually did this last year! The key was framing it as a win-win for both the company and employees. I put together a one-page document showing how much FICA tax the COMPANY was paying unnecessarily by including per diem in taxable wages (they pay 7.65% matching on all those per diem amounts!). Then I showed how employees were getting hit with income tax on top of that. I brought it to our finance director rather than HR, since it was ultimately a money issue for the company. When they realized they could save thousands in payroll taxes company-wide by switching to an accountable plan, they made the change within a month!
14 One important thing to consider - if your employer switches to a non-taxable per diem system, make sure they're not reducing your base pay to compensate! I've seen companies do this, where they say "your total compensation stays the same" but they shift more to non-taxable per diem and reduce the base salary. This can impact your reported income for things like mortgage applications, retirement contributions, disability insurance, etc. Just something to watch out for!
OP, I'd still bug your employer for a physical copy just to be safe. They're required to provide your W2 by Jan 31, but not necessarily a paper copy if they offer electronic delivery. That said, a screenshot is super unprofessional. I run payroll for a small business (10 employees) and we use proper payroll software that generates actual W2 PDFs and mails physical copies. Your employer is just being lazy.
I agree! I had a similar thing with a part-time job last year. Boss sent a phone pic of my W2. I kept asking for a real copy and she eventually mailed it after I mentioned "IRS requirements" even though I wasn't 100% sure what they were lol. Sometimes just sounding like you know the rules is enough to get what you need!
That's a good approach. Sometimes employers, especially small businesses, aren't being deliberately difficult - they just don't understand the requirements or think they're being helpful by sending something quickly. Mentioning IRS requirements often gets their attention because nobody wants tax trouble. If polite requests don't work, you can always contact the IRS directly after February 15th. By that point, they should have the W2 information in their system, and they can provide you with a wage and income transcript that has the same information.
You might try getting your W2 directly from the IRS if your employer won't send a proper copy. Go to IRS.gov and request a wage and income transcript. It takes a few weeks to get it but it has all the same info. I had to do this when my W2 got lost in the mail one year.
Thanks for the suggestion! If I keep hitting a wall with my boss, I'll definitely try this route. Have you ever had issues filing with the transcript instead of the actual W2? I'm just worried about potential delays or questions.
Nope, no issues at all. The transcript has all the exact same information that would be on your W2. The only difference is the format. Tax software doesn't care where you get the numbers from, just that they're correct. The IRS already has all your W2 info in their system (your employer submits it to them), so the transcript is actually coming straight from the official records.
Have you checked if you entered your expenses exactly the same way in both programs? I had a similar issue last year and realized I had categorized an expense differently in one program which affected my net self-employment income slightly, causing ripple effects in the tax calculations.
Thanks for this suggestion. I double-checked and I'm pretty sure I entered everything identically, but I might have missed something. Is there a specific expense category that tends to cause this kind of calculation difference? I'm going to go through line by line again to make sure.
The most common categories that can cause differences are home office deductions and vehicle expenses. Some programs calculate these differently based on how you enter the information. Also check if you're using actual expenses versus standard mileage rate for vehicle costs in both programs the same way. Another thing to look at is retirement plan contributions. If you have a SEP IRA or Solo 401(k), the way these are entered can affect your SE tax calculations differently across programs.
I'm actually a tax prep volunteer and see this all the time. The most likely explanation is that the two programs are using different calculation orders: 1. Program 1 might be calculating your QBI deduction based on your SE income BEFORE deducting the employer portion of SE tax 2. Program 2 might be calculating QBI AFTER deducting the employer portion The IRS guidance suggests the second approach is more accurate, which would explain why your second program shows a higher QBI deduction. Check both returns on Form 8995 (QBI deduction) and Schedule SE to see exactly how they're calculating these amounts.
Is there actually an official IRS position on which order to do these calculations? I always thought the tax code was super specific about calculation order.
Isabella Santos
Have you tried using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator? It's free and pretty accurate: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator I used it last year after getting a new job. You need some info handy (like your most recent paystubs for both you and your spouse), but it walks you through everything step by step and gives you exact numbers to put on your W-4.
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Paolo Romano
ā¢I tried that calculator but got confused halfway through. Do you know if it's better than just checking the box in Step 2? My situation is pretty straightforward - just two jobs, no kids, standard deduction.
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Isabella Santos
ā¢For a straightforward situation like yours (two jobs, similar income levels, no kids), checking the box in Step 2(c) on both W-4s should work fine. The calculator is more beneficial if you have a more complex situation with kids, multiple income sources, or if you itemize deductions. The box method is designed to withhold enough for two similarly-paying jobs. If you want to be extra cautious, you could put a small additional amount ($20-50 per paycheck) in Step 4(c) for additional withholding, but it's probably not necessary with your income levels.
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Ravi Sharma
Just be careful with your withholding no matter what you choose! My husband and I both work and we messed up our W-4s last year. We each claimed the standard deduction on our separate forms (big mistake) and ended up owing $4,300 at tax time!!! Make sure you only claim things on ONE of your W-4s, not both. That was our costly mistake.
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Freya Larsen
ā¢That's actually not how the new W-4 works. You don't "claim" the standard deduction on the form anymore. The new form automatically incorporates the standard deduction into the withholding calculations. The old form with allowances is gone.
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