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Don't ignore the 1099-Q! The IRS already has a copy so they'll flag your return if you don't address it. First, call the institution that issued the form - their contact info should be on it. Ask them for details about who established the account and when the distribution was made. It might be a 529 plan you didn't know existed (maybe set up when you were younger).

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I had this exact situation! My grandparents had apparently set up a 529 for me as a baby and never told my parents. Years later, the distributions started going to my university. Check with extended family members too - might be a surprise gift someone forgot to mention.

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That's a great point about checking with extended family! Sometimes these accounts are set up as surprises or the person who created it might have forgotten to mention distributions were starting. Another thing to consider is that the amount might be higher than your tuition because it could include room and board, books, supplies, and other qualified expenses. The 529 administrator might have sent a distribution that covered more than just the direct tuition bills.

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Be careful about assuming all of a 1099-Q is non-taxable. I learned this the hard way... If any part was used for non-qualified expenses or if your scholarships covered the qualified expenses that the 529 was also used for, you could owe taxes on some of it.

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Emma Wilson

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This happened to me. My scholarships covered most of my tuition, but my parents still distributed funds from my 529 plan. We ended up having to pay taxes on a portion because you can't double-dip on tax benefits. Definitely worth getting professional help to sort it out.

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Elijah Brown

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Just to add my experience - I had code 570 last year and it cleared on its own after about 2 weeks. For PATH Act returns they do extra verification which is why you see that code. It changed to 571 (which removes the 570 hold) right around February 16th, and my refund was deposited on February 22nd. As long as there are no other issues, you should be fine!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Did your WMR tool update before the deposit hit your account? Mine still shows the first bar even though the transcript has the 570 code.

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Elijah Brown

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The WMR tool hardly ever updated correctly for me. It was still showing "return received" even after my refund was deposited! The transcript is much more accurate and reliable than WMR. If you check your transcript again in a week or so, you'll probably see the 571 code pop up, followed by code 846 with your refund date. That's the real indicator to watch for.

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One thing to remember about the PATH Act holds - they affect ALL returns with EITC/ACTC, even if you've been filing the same way for years without issues. The 570 code is just this year's way of marking returns subject to the hold. The first refunds for PATH Act returns won't go out until February 15th at the earliest, and many will be a few days after that. It's annoying but it's just how they try to prevent fraudulent claims.

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Natalie Chen

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Does the hold still apply if you're only claiming a small EITC amount? I only qualified for about $340 in EITC this year, but my total refund is over $3,000 from withholding. Seems silly to hold the entire amount for such a small credit.

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Harold Oh

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I had the exact same situation when I was bartending at a nightclub. Owner paid us through Venmo, then suddenly wanted to 1099 us all at tax time. The key factors the IRS looks at are: 1. Behavioral control - Did they control WHEN and HOW you worked? Sounds like yes. 2. Financial control - Did they set your pay rate and schedule? Sounds like yes. 3. Relationship - Was there an expectation of continued work? Two years sounds like yes. Don't just accept the 1099. I made that mistake and got hit with a $3,200 self-employment tax bill that should have been partially paid by the employer.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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What happened after you got hit with the tax bill? Did you ever try to get it corrected or did you just pay it? I'm in a similar situation but with a restaurant that closed down, so I'm not even sure if the owner is still around to issue a corrected form.

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Harold Oh

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I ended up paying it the first year because I didn't know any better. The second year, I filed the SS-8 form proactively and got a determination letter from the IRS saying I was indeed an employee. I took that to the owner, who initially resisted but changed his tune when I mentioned the potential penalties for misclassification. He issued a corrected W-2 for that year. For the previous year, I filed an amended return with the determination letter and got about $1,600 back. Even if your restaurant closed, you can still file the SS-8 and possibly get a determination that helps with your taxes. The owner being gone doesn't prevent the IRS from making a ruling on your status.

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Summer Green

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Does anyone know if getting paid through Cash App makes any difference for tax purposes? My understanding is that now with the new $600 reporting threshold, Cash App will issue 1099-Ks anyway, so maybe it doesn't matter if the hookah place sends a 1099 or not? I'm confused about how this all works together.

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Getting paid through Cash App doesn't determine your worker status - that's based on the nature of your working relationship. However, you're right about the reporting change. Cash App (and similar payment services) are required to issue 1099-Ks for accounts receiving over $600 in payments for goods and services. This is separate from whether your employer issues a 1099-NEC or W-2. The IRS may notice if you receive a 1099-K from Cash App but don't report that income, regardless of whether you also get a 1099 or W-2 from the employer. So the income definitely needs to be reported either way, but the classification as employee vs. contractor determines HOW you report it and how much tax you pay.

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Summer Green

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Thanks for explaining! So if I'm understanding right, I could potentially get both a 1099-K from Cash App AND either a 1099-NEC or W-2 from my employer for the same income? That seems like it would cause confusion with the IRS. How would I make sure I'm not double-reporting the same income?

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NeonNebula

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One thing nobody mentioned - you should check if you qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement! If you haven't had any penalties in the past 3 tax years, the IRS will often waive the penalties (not the interest though) for your first offense. I was late on my SE taxes in 2023 and got about $240 in penalties completely removed. You usually have to pay everything first, then request the abatement.

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How exactly do you request this abatement thing? Is it something you can do online or do you have to call them?

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NeonNebula

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You can request First Time Penalty Abatement by calling the IRS directly after you've paid your balance in full. There's a specific phone number on your bill notice. You can also write a letter, but calling is usually faster. When you call, specifically ask for "First Time Penalty Abatement" - use those exact words. The agent will check if you qualify by looking at your tax compliance history. You mainly need to have filed all required returns and not have had penalties in the prior 3 years. Have your notice or letter handy when you call, along with your tax ID number, and be polite but direct in your request.

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I think everyone's overcomplicating this. Just file your return on time and pay what you can. Then the IRS will send you a bill for the rest plus penalties. Or set up a payment plan online, it takes like 10 minutes. The penalties aren't that bad if you pay within a couple months. I was late last year and the total penalty+interest was like $35 on a $1200 balance that I paid 6 weeks late. The IRS saves the scary stuff for people who ignore them completely.

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That seems way too low for penalties and interest. Are you sure it was only $35 for being 6 weeks late on $1200? Everything I've read suggests it would be more.

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To add to what others have said, I'd recommend creating a detailed transaction log showing: 1) Initial USD to BTC purchase (date, amount, exchange) 2) BTC transfer to forex broker (date, amount, BTC value) 3) Conversion to fiat for forex trading (date, amount) 4) Summary of forex trading results (can be daily/weekly totals instead of every trade) 5) Conversion back to BTC (date, amount, BTC value) 6) Transfer back to exchange (date, amount, BTC value) This is essentially creating a paper trail that shows why the exchange 1099s don't tell the whole story. You'll want to report the actual forex trading results on Schedule 1 as Section 988 income/loss. The key is documenting everything thoroughly so if you're audited, you can clearly explain the discrepancy between the exchange reports and your actual tax situation.

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This is extremely helpful, thank you! One question - when creating this transaction log, should I calculate the USD value of the BTC at each transfer point? Or just focus on the final gain/loss numbers?

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Yes, you should definitely record the USD value of the BTC at each transfer point. This is crucial because the IRS considers each crypto-to-fiat or crypto-to-crypto exchange a potentially taxable event, and those values establish your cost basis. When you transfer BTC to your forex broker and convert to fiat, you technically have a taxable event based on whether your BTC gained/lost value since purchase. Then your forex trading creates separate taxable events. Finally, when converting back to BTC, there's another taxable event. Recording the USD values at each step creates a clear audit trail that properly separates the crypto transactions from the forex transactions.

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Sophie Duck

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Anyone know if the wash sale rule applies to forex trading? I had some losing trades that I closed out in December 2024, then opened similar positions in January 2025. My tax software is flagging them as potential wash sales but I thought forex was exempt?

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Forex trades under Section 988 (which is the default for most retail forex traders) are NOT subject to wash sale rules. They're treated as ordinary income/loss rather than capital gains/losses. However, if you elected to use Section 1256 treatment (which most retail traders don't), then different rules would apply. Make sure you're consistent in your treatment though. You can't cherry-pick which trades fall under which section to maximize tax benefits.

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Sophie Duck

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Thanks for clearing that up! I've definitely been treating everything as Section 988 since I'm doing short-term day trading, so I should be good. I'll override the flag in my tax software and make a note explaining that these are forex trades under Section 988 and therefore exempt from wash sale rules.

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