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Lucas Parker

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Another option is to contact the company you worked for in 2018. Their HR/payroll department should have records of your W-2 from that year. Even if they don't have the full tax return, having your W-2 would show your state withholding amounts, which seems to be what you need to disprove the state's claim. Most companies keep payroll records for 7-10 years (even though they're only required to keep them for 4), so there's a good chance they still have this information. Reaching out to them might be faster than waiting for the IRS.

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I actually tried this already but unfortunately the company I worked for in 2018 was bought out in 2020 and the new owner purged a lot of the old records. They told me they only kept the "legally required minimum" which apparently didn't include my 2018 W-2. Really frustrating since this would've been the easiest solution!

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Lucas Parker

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That's definitely frustrating! In that case, your next best option is to request a Wage and Income Transcript from the IRS, which will show all reported W-2 information. This is different from the Tax Return Transcript you tried to access online. You can request this specific transcript using Form 4506-T (check box 8 on the form). Even though the online system only goes back to 2020, the IRS can provide Wage and Income Transcripts going back 10 years when requested via mail or fax using this form. This would show exactly what was reported to them on your W-2, including state withholding information.

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Donna Cline

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Just FYI - I deal with state tax audits for a living, and you should know that the burden of proof is actually on THEM to show you didn't pay taxes, not on you to prove you did. Ask them what evidence they have that you paid $0 in state taxes that year. Also, double-check the statute of limitations in your state. Many states have a 3-year limitation on tax assessments unless they suspect fraud. A 2018 audit in 2025 is outside that window unless they're alleging fraud or non-filing.

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This is not entirely accurate. While the burden of proof does shift in certain circumstances, the general rule is that taxpayers bear the burden of proving their income, deductions, and credits. If the state is claiming you had income but paid no tax, they usually have some evidence of the income (like W-2 reporting) but are claiming you never filed or paid. The statute of limitations point is valid though - worth checking your state's specific rules.

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Just wanted to add that if you do let the mother claim the child, make sure you have a written agreement about it. My buddy got screwed because he verbally agreed to let his ex claim their kid, but then she refused to split the refund like they'd agreed. Without anything in writing, he had no recourse.

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Ev Luca

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Can you actually enforce something like that legally though? I thought tax benefits were separate from custody agreements?

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You absolutely can include tax arrangements in your custody agreement, and the court can enforce it. Many parenting plans specifically address who claims the child in which years (alternating, always one parent, etc). If it's not in your custody order yet, you can still create a separate written agreement. While not as strong as a court order, it's still evidence of your agreement if there's a dispute later. Some parents even use a service like Our Family Wizard to document these agreements, which gives them more weight since the communication is timestamped and can't be altered later.

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Avery Davis

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Im wondering how this affects state taxes too? Does letting the mother claim your kid on federal mean she also has to claim on state return? Or can you split it?

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No, you can't split federal and state. Most states require your filing status and dependents to match your federal return. It would raise red flags if two different people claimed the same kid on federal vs state returns.

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Kaylee Cook

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Pro tip: Check the 1040 instructions page on the IRS.gov website for the specific tax year you're filing. The Schedule 3 instructions are actually in a separate PDF from the main 1040 instructions. The IRS splits up their instruction documents to make them "more manageable" but it just makes everything harder to find. Here's what to do: 1. Go to IRS.gov 2. Search for "Schedule 3 instructions" plus the tax year 3. Download that specific PDF 4. Line 7 instructions will be in there

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Is there a way to search within the PDFs themselves? I always struggle finding specific line references even when I have the right document.

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Kaylee Cook

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Yes! Once you download the PDF, open it and use Ctrl+F (or Command+F on Mac) to search for keywords. For this specific example, you could search for "line 7" or "fuel tax" to jump right to the relevant section. Another trick I use is the IRS's Interactive Tax Assistant on their website. It's not perfect but can sometimes guide you to the right forms and instructions better than just browsing their site.

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Lara Woods

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Schedule 3, line 7 is for Form 4136 (fuel tax credit) which most regular people don't need to worry about. But I wanted to mention - if you're using tax software and it's highlighting this for review, sometimes you just need to click through and confirm you don't have this credit to apply. I use TurboTax and it does this annoying thing where it flags certain sections as "needs review" even when they don't apply to me. You just have to click through and explicitly tell it "no, I don't have this" for it to stop bugging you about it.

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Nathan Kim

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Thanks for this! You're right - I went back to my tax software and just clicked "No" on the question about fuel tax credits, and it stopped highlighting that section. I was overthinking it and assumed I needed to find some special instructions. Feeling pretty silly now lol.

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Nina Chan

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One thing that helped me understand this better was thinking of the tax brackets as buckets that fill up. Each bucket has a different tax rate: For 2023 Married Filing Jointly: $0-$22,000: 10% bucket $22,001-$89,450: 12% bucket $89,451-$190,750: 22% bucket And so on... If you and your spouse each make $60,000, individually you'd only fill up the 10% and part of the 12% bucket. But combined ($120,000), you fill the 10% bucket, the entire 12% bucket, and spill into the 22% bucket. The problem is that when your employer withholds based on "married filing jointly" without knowing about your spouse's income, they think you only need to fill those first two buckets. That's why you're underwithholding.

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Tony Brooks

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This bucket analogy is super helpful - I've never thought about it that way before! So if we each make about $65k, we're definitely spilling into that 22% bucket when combined. Would checking that box in Step 2(c) on our W4s like someone mentioned above fix this issue completely, or would we still need to do some additional withholding?

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Nina Chan

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If you both make around $65k, checking the box in Step 2(c) on both your W4s should fix most of the issue. That essentially tells your employers to withhold at the higher single rate, which accounts for having two similar incomes. For even more accuracy, I'd recommend running your numbers through the IRS Withholding Estimator online. Have your latest paystubs handy. The calculator will tell you exactly what to put on line 4(c) if any additional withholding is needed beyond checking that box. Some people find they need a little extra withholding even with the box checked, especially if you have other income sources or particular deductions.

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Ruby Knight

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Just want to add that you don't want to select "married filing separately" on your W4 like you suggested. That's actually a specific tax filing status with its own tax brackets, and it's usually less favorable than married filing jointly. Many tax credits and deductions aren't available when you file separately. What you want is to either: 1. Check the box in Step 2(c) on the W4 form 2. Use the "Multiple Jobs Worksheet" on page 3 of the W4 3. Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online and follow its recommendations Also, it's not as simple as "gross salary minus 22%" because the US has a progressive tax system. You pay 10% on the first chunk of income, then 12% on the next chunk, then 22% on income above that threshold.

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This might be a dumb question, but does it matter if I'm paid biweekly and my husband is paid monthly? Do we both still just check that box on our W4s?

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Amaya Watson

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I've filed taxes for 15 years and here's what I've noticed with refund timing: - Simple returns (just W-2 income): Usually 7-14 days - Self-employment/1099 income: 14-21 days - Any amended returns: 8-12 WEEKS (not days!) - EITC/Child Tax Credit: Not before mid-February, then 14-21 days - Large refunds ($5000+): Sometimes 1-3 days longer but not significantly The biggest factor is filing early - my Jan 31 returns always process faster than when I wait until March.

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Grant Vikers

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Have you noticed any difference between tax prep software? Like does using TurboTax vs H&R Block vs FreeTaxUSA change how fast the IRS processes things?

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Amaya Watson

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I haven't noticed any consistent difference in processing speed between tax software options. I've used TurboTax, H&R Block, and FreeTaxUSA over the years, and the refund timing seemed to depend much more on when I filed and what was on my return rather than which software I used. All the major tax software providers use the same electronic filing system to submit to the IRS, so once your return is accepted, the processing time should be the same regardless of which program you used to prepare it. The IRS doesn't prioritize returns based on which software was used.

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anyone else notice that the "Where's My Refund" tool is SUPER unhelpful? it's been saying "Your return is being processed" for 2 weeks now with no other details. like thanks IRS, i already knew that lol. wish it would at least tell you where in the process it is or if there's a problem.

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Totally agree. And the really annoying thing is when it says "We cannot provide any information about your refund" and tells you to call, but then when you call they just tell you to check the website. It's a never-ending cycle of frustration!

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