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Has anyone ever had an IRS examination that focused specifically on QSST basis calculations? I'm worried about how much documentation I need to maintain for this type of situation. Been keeping spreadsheets year by year but wonder if that's sufficient.

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Aisha Ali

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I represented a client through an IRS exam last year that included QSST issues. They wanted to see annual basis calculation worksheets showing beginning basis, all adjustments, and ending basis for each year the QSST election was in effect. Also needed all trust instruments, S corp organizational docs, and evidence of distributions.

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to share some additional guidance on the documentation piece that @Mateo Gonzalez brought up. Beyond the annual basis worksheets, I'd recommend maintaining: 1. Copies of all S corp K-1s issued during the QSST period 2. Bank statements showing actual distribution flows (whether to trust or beneficiary) 3. Any correspondence with the S corp regarding distribution timing/amounts 4. Documentation of the original QSST election filing One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential Section 1374 built-in gains tax implications if this was a C corp that converted to S status. While this typically doesn't apply to QSSTs, it's worth checking the S corp's recognition period status. Also, for the related party analysis, don't forget to consider the constructive ownership rules under Section 267(c). The attribution between the trust, trustee, and beneficiary can get complex, especially when family members are involved as both trustees and buyers. The consensus here about adjusting the trust's basis for all pass-through items is absolutely correct, but make sure you're also considering any Section 754 elections if the S corp has partnership interests or other pass-through entities.

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This is really helpful additional guidance! I'm new to handling QSST situations and hadn't considered the Section 1374 angle at all. Quick question - when you mention checking the S corp's "recognition period status," are you referring to the 5-year period after conversion from C corp status? And would this apply even if the built-in gains are at the trust level rather than the S corp level? Also, regarding the Section 754 election point - I assume you're talking about situations where the S corp itself holds partnership interests? Would the trust need to make any special elections or adjustments in those cases, or does it all flow through the normal K-1 reporting?

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Caesar Grant

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Has anyone here actually used priortax.com specifically? I'm in a similar situation with unfiled 2016 taxes and wondering if it's worth trying.

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Lena Schultz

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I used priortax for an old 2013 return last year. The interface is pretty basic and not as user-friendly as modern tax software, but it worked fine. Customer service was decent when I had questions. The biggest advantage was that it had all the correct forms and calculations for that tax year built in. Cost me around $45 if I remember correctly. Just make sure you print and mail the completed return - e-filing isn't available for returns that old regardless of what service you use.

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Caesar Grant

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Thanks for sharing your experience! $45 doesn't sound bad compared to what some CPAs would charge. Did it handle state returns too or just federal?

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StormChaser

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Just want to add a reality check here - while you're right to file that 2015 return, don't panic too much about the IRS "coming looking for you." If you were due a refund that year, there are literally no penalties for filing late (you just lose the refund after 3 years, which has already happened). If you owed money, yes there will be penalties and interest, but the IRS is usually pretty reasonable about setting up payment plans. The failure-to-file penalty stops accumulating once you actually file, so getting that return in is definitely the right move. For what it's worth, I've used both professional tax preparers and DIY methods for old returns. If your 2015 situation was relatively simple (just W-2s, maybe some basic deductions), the manual route with IRS forms might be cheaper than you think. But if you had complicated stuff going on during that divorce year, spending the money on professional help could save you headaches and potentially money in the long run.

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Has anyone used one of those online home value estimators instead of paying for a formal appraisal? I'm wondering if the IRS would accept Zillow or Redfin estimates as proof of FMV for establishing stepped-up basis?

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I wouldn't recommend using online estimators for this purpose. While Zillow and Redfin estimates might give you a ballpark figure, the IRS generally expects more formal documentation for establishing fair market value, especially for significant assets like real estate.

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Miguel Ramos

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Nathan. Dealing with estate matters while grieving is incredibly difficult. Getting a professional appraisal is definitely the smart approach here - the IRS generally expects formal documentation for establishing fair market value, especially for real estate. One thing to keep in mind is that the appraisal should ideally be done as close to the date of death as possible to accurately reflect the FMV at that time. Since it's been a few weeks since your father passed, you'll want to make sure the appraiser understands they need to value the property as of the March date of death, not current conditions. The step-up basis will likely save you significant money on capital gains taxes. Just make sure to keep all documentation - the appraisal report, probate court documents, death certificate, and any records showing the property transfer. You'll need these when you eventually sell to prove your stepped-up cost basis to the IRS. Consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in estate matters, especially given that there's no will involved. They can help ensure you're handling everything correctly during the probate process.

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Community wisdom on WMR updates: • Most updates happen overnight (3-4 AM Eastern) • Saturday mornings often show the most changes • Checking multiple times per day won't help • Transcripts update before WMR about 80% of the time • Status bars disappearing can actually be a good sign • Tax Topic 152 usually means normal processing Hope this helps! Anyone have other tips?

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As someone who's been through this frustrating waiting game multiple times, I feel your pain about needing that refund for bills. One thing that helped me manage the anxiety was setting up direct deposit if you haven't already - it can shave off a few days compared to paper checks. Also, while everyone's mentioning the overnight updates (which is true), I've noticed that if there's going to be a status change, it usually happens between Wednesday night and Saturday morning. The worst part is that "accepted" status can last anywhere from a few days to several weeks depending on your return complexity. Hang in there - two weeks is still within normal processing times, especially during peak season.

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When Will I Get My $31,283 Refund with 570/971 Codes on Transcript? Processing Date April 24, Notice Issued May 1

I just checked my transcript and wanted to understand what's happening. My transcript shows code 150 for $6,677.00 on April 24, 2023, which is my tax return being filed. Then I see a 570 code (Additional account action pending) on the same day for $0.00, followed by a 971 code (Notice issued) dated May 02, 2023 for $0.00. My current account balance shows -31,283.00 (as of May 02, 2023), with $0.00 in accrued interest and $0.00 in accrued penalties. The ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount) shows -$31,283.00. The return was due April 15, 2023, and the processing date shows as April 24, 2023. I filed as Single with 01 exemption. The transcript shows my filing information: INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED ** EXEMPTIONS: 01 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: [blank] TAXABLE INCOME: [blank] TAX PER RETURN: [blank] SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: 0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: 0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: 0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2023 PROCESSING DATE Apr. 24, 2023 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 04-24-2023 $6,677.00 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-15-2023 [amount missing] 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2023 [amount missing] 570 Additional account action pending 04-24-2023 $0.00 971 Notice issued 05-02-2023 $0.00 This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data Should I be hopeful about getting my refund soon or just keep waiting? I'm confused about the 570 and 971 codes appearing on my transcript. Does this mean my refund is delayed? Will I still get the full -$31,283.00 shown as my account balance? Any help would be appreciated!

The IRS is so behind this year its not even funny anymore. They need to get it together fr

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Mason Kaczka

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facts. taking forever to process anything šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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Looking at your transcript, the 570/971 combo is pretty standard when the IRS needs to verify credits - especially with that large refund amount. The good news is your account shows no penalties or interest accruing, which means they're not questioning the legitimacy of your return, just doing their due diligence. Based on the timing (971 notice issued May 2nd), you should receive that letter within 7-10 business days explaining exactly what they need. Once you provide any requested documentation or they complete their internal review, the 570 hold gets released and your refund processes. With credits like EIC and CTC, these reviews are routine but can take 6-12 weeks total. Keep checking your transcript weekly for updates - you'll see the 570 disappear first, then hopefully a 846 code with your direct deposit date. Hang in there! šŸ¤ž

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