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I just went through this exact situation last month. Here's what I found: The EITC is calculated based on your EARNED income, not your AGI. Traditional IRA contributions reduce your AGI but not your earned income. The reason most calculators ask for AGI is because it's also used as part of the qualification process. Your AGI needs to be below the threshold to qualify, but the actual calculation is based on earned income. I thought the same thing and was trying to max my IRA to get more EITC, but it doesn't work that way. HOWEVER, depending on your income level, maxing your IRA might qualify you for the Saver's Credit, which is totally different but can be worth up to $1,000 if you contribute $2,000 to retirement accounts.

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Ryan Kim

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What's the income limit for the Saver's Credit? I'm trying to figure out if I qualify for that since the EITC won't be affected by my IRA contributions.

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For the 2024 tax year (filing in 2025), the Saver's Credit income limits are: - 50% credit: AGI up to $21,750 for single filers - 20% credit: AGI between $21,751-$23,750 for single filers - 10% credit: AGI between $23,751-$36,500 for single filers The credit is based on your first $2,000 of contributions to retirement accounts (IRA, 401k, etc.). So if you qualify for the 50% rate and contribute $2,000, you'd get a $1,000 tax credit. It's definitely worth looking into if you're already planning to make retirement contributions!

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Zoe Walker

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - does your state have a state EITC too? Many states have their own version that piggybacks on the federal one, and sometimes those calculations ARE affected by AGI. I'm in California and our CalEITC is calculated differently than the federal EITC. My tax preparer told me that in some cases, IRA contributions can affect state EITCs even if they don't change the federal amount.

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Elijah Brown

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This is a really good point. I'm in Maryland and our state EITC is just a percentage of the federal one, so if the federal one doesn't change, neither does the state one. But I know some states calculate theirs differently.

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Mason Lopez

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Something else to consider - with only $1,350 in revenue, you might actually be operating at a loss once you account for all your startup expenses and inventory purchases. Claiming a business loss can actually offset some of your personal income tax liability. This is totally legitimate if it's an actual loss. Just be sure to document everything carefully in case of audit.

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Vera Visnjic

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But doesn't claiming a business loss increase your chance of getting audited? I've heard the IRS flags new businesses that report losses right away.

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Mason Lopez

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There's a common misconception about loss reporting. A business loss itself doesn't automatically trigger an audit, especially for the first year when startup costs often exceed revenue. The IRS expects many legitimate businesses to operate at a loss initially. What raises flags is when losses continue for multiple years or when the losses don't make sense for your business type. For a retail shop that just opened, having startup costs and initial inventory purchases that exceed one week of sales is completely reasonable and normal. Just make sure you're treating the business as a business - keep separate records, maintain proper documentation, and don't try to claim personal expenses as business deductions.

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I'm a former bookkeeper and I'd recommend using QuickBooks Self-Employed or something similar to track everything properly from day one. It'll sync with your bank accounts, help categorize expenses, track mileage if you're driving for business, and makes tax time WAY easier whether you file yourself or eventually hire a CPA. Starting with good bookkeeping habits now will save you so much headache later.

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Is QuickBooks really worth the monthly cost for a tiny business though? Are there free alternatives that work for very small operations?

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you need to keep detailed records of how many days you use the property personally vs. rental days. If you stay there during your visits, those days count as personal use, which can affect your deductions. If personal use exceeds the greater of 14 days or 10% of the days it's rented at fair market value, it's considered a "mixed-use" property with limited deductions. You can still deduct expenses, but they need to be allocated between personal and business use. Also, don't forget about depreciation! You can depreciate the property (excluding land value) over 27.5 years, which is a significant deduction. Just remember that when you eventually sell, you'll have depreciation recapture tax to deal with.

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Do you know if there's any difference in how depreciation works for foreign vs. domestic properties? And would renovations/improvements to the property be depreciated differently?

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The basic depreciation rules are the same for foreign and domestic properties - residential rental real estate is depreciated over 27.5 years using the straight-line method. The property's basis for depreciation is generally your cost plus certain closing costs, minus the value of the land (which can't be depreciated). For renovations and improvements, these are handled differently than regular repairs. Major improvements that add value or extend the useful life of the property are depreciated separately based on when they're placed in service. Smaller repairs are generally just expensed in the year they occur. This is true regardless of whether the property is foreign or domestic.

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I think everyone's forgetting a really important thing here - CURRENCY EXCHANGE RATES! I own a rental in Bangkok and this has been a huge headache. The IRS expects you to convert everything to USD based on the exchange rate on the day of the transaction. So when your tenant pays rent in won, you need to convert to USD. When you pay a plumber in won, convert to USD. It's a massive pain to track, especially with fluctuating exchange rates. Some tax software can't even handle it properly. Plus there's potential for currency gains/losses if exchange rates change significantly between when you collect rent and when you convert it to dollars. That's actually taxed differently than the rental income itself!

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Emma Davis

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Do you use any specific apps or tools to track all this currency conversion stuff? I'm about to close on a place in Japan and I'm already dreading the accounting headaches.

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Carmen Vega

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Random but important tip for CPAs handling ERC claims: prepare your clients for a LONG wait. I filed amended 941-Xs for several clients in early 2024 claiming ERC and many are still processing. The IRS has a huge backlog and some claims are taking 9+ months for review. Make sure your clients understand this timeline so they're not calling you every week asking where their money is! Also, document EVERYTHING meticulously because the IRS is scrutinizing these claims heavily and requesting additional support documentation frequently.

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Have you had any success with the fax number for ERC claim status inquiries? I tried it a few times but never got any response. Wondering if there's a trick to it or if it's just a black hole like everything else at the IRS these days.

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Carmen Vega

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I've had mixed results with the fax system. Out of about 15 status requests I've sent, I only received responses for 4 of them, and those took about 3 weeks to come back. The responses weren't very detailed either - just basic confirmation that the claim was "in process" with no estimated completion date. I've found that calling the IRS (when you can actually get through) gives better information, as agents can see notes in the system about where the claim is in the review process. Some practitioners in my network have reported better success by sending status inquiries through certified mail to the IRS service center where the original claim was filed, but even that's hit or miss.

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Zoe Stavros

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Anyone else noticing that the IRS is rejecting more ERC claims lately? I had two clients get rejection notices last month for claims I filed in Nov 2023. The reasons were pretty vague - just citing "insufficient documentation to support qualification." These were legitimate claims with solid documentation showing government-ordered restrictions that affected operations.

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Jamal Harris

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Yes! I've seen this too. I think they're cracking down after all those sketchy ERC mills that were filing dubious claims. One thing that helped me was sending a detailed cover letter with each amended return that specifically outlines exactly which government orders restricted my client's operations and how those restrictions materially affected business operations. I basically create a roadmap for the IRS reviewer.

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Harper Hill

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I'm a rideshare driver and I write off all my car repairs, maintenance, gas, etc. You just need to track your business miles vs personal miles and deduct that percentage of your expenses. Or use the standard mileage rate which is easier but sometimes gives you a smaller deduction.

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Caden Nguyen

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But the original poster isn't a rideshare driver - they're just commuting to work. Completely different tax situation. The IRS specifically says regular commuting isn't deductible.

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Harper Hill

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You're right - I missed that they're just commuting. In that case, these expenses wouldn't be deductible. I was thinking about business use which is entirely different. Commuting is always considered personal use by the IRS, no matter how far your workplace is or how necessary your vehicle is to get there. The only exception would be if they have a qualifying home office as their primary place of business and are traveling to client sites.

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Avery Flores

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Has anyone considered whether insurance proceeds should be reported as income? If you got a settlement for the total loss but then repaired it anyway, that settlement might be taxable if it exceeded your basis in the vehicle.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Insurance settlements for personal vehicles usually aren't taxable unless you end up with a gain. Like if your car was worth $10k but somehow insurance paid you $12k, that $2k difference might be taxable. But it's rare for that to happen since cars usually lose value over time.

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