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Can I get the Saver's Credit if I made 401k contributions and then rolled over to an IRA? TurboTax says no?

I've been really confused about my eligibility for the Saver's Credit this year. Here's my situation: For 2024, my earned income was $25,641. I contributed $2,105 to my 401k before leaving my job back in May (no other retirement contributions after that). Then I rolled over $4,179 from that same 401k into an IRA. My AGI before the 401k distribution was $25,641. From what I understand about the Saver's Credit eligibility for 2024: - I'm over 18 years old āœ“ - Not a full-time student āœ“ - Nobody claims me as a dependent āœ“ - Made retirement contributions during this tax year āœ“ - Income requirement: I made less than the $36,500 threshold as a Single Filer āœ“ Based on my research, since I made between $24,500 and $26,800, I should be eligible to claim 20% of my $2,105 contribution to the 401k. This would give me a tax credit of about $421. However, when I'm going through TurboTax, it's telling me I don't qualify for the Saver's Credit, even though it shows my contribution amount during the process. Could this be happening because the total distribution I took for the rollover exceeds what I contributed? Looking at Form 8880, it seems this might be the issue. What I don't understand is this: the money was directly rolled into another qualified retirement plan (the IRA). Shouldn't the type of distribution matter? Does any distribution at all disqualify you from claiming the credit, even if it's non-taxable? Any help would be really appreciated! Let me know if you need any additional information.

Oscar O'Neil

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Just to add another data point - I had this exact same issue last year with a 403(b) rollover to an IRA. Unfortunately, TurboTax is correct here. When I called the IRS, they confirmed that ANY distribution counts on Line 4 of Form 8880, even if it's a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer that isn't taxable. The weird part of this rule is that you're essentially being penalized for moving your retirement money around, even when you're keeping it in the retirement system. I think the rule exists to prevent people from gaming the system by withdrawing and recontributing the same money multiple times to claim multiple credits. One thing to consider for the future - if you leave a job mid-year, you might want to keep your 401k where it is until January of the following year, then do your rollover. That way your distribution won't impact your Saver's Credit eligibility for the contributions you made during your employment.

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Thanks for confirming this! It's really frustrating that the rollover counts against me even though I kept the money in retirement accounts. I wish TurboTax had explained WHY I didn't qualify instead of just saying I don't. Do you know if the distributions from previous years also reduce this year's eligible contributions? Like if I took a distribution in 2023, does that affect my 2024 Saver's Credit?

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Oscar O'Neil

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Yes, unfortunately distributions from previous years do affect your current year's Saver's Credit. Form 8880 looks at distributions from the current tax year AND the two previous tax years. So any distributions you took in 2022, 2023, and 2024 will all reduce your eligible contributions for the 2024 Saver's Credit. This "lookback period" is specifically designed to prevent people from taking money out and putting it back in to claim the credit repeatedly.

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I'm still a bit confused about how the timing works. If I'm planning to roll over a 401k from an old employer in 2025, should I do it in January to avoid messing up my Saver's Credit for 2025? Or does it matter when in the year I do it?

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The timing absolutely matters! If you want to maximize your Saver's Credit eligibility for 2025, here's what you should consider: First, remember that Form 8880 counts distributions from the current tax year plus the two preceding years. So for your 2025 tax return, the IRS will look at distributions from 2023, 2024, and 2025. If you're planning to make contributions to retirement accounts in 2025 and want to claim the Saver's Credit, ideally you would avoid taking any distributions (including rollovers) during all three of those years. But since you need to roll over your old 401k, the timing of when you do it in 2025 doesn't matter for your 2025 Saver's Credit - any rollover during 2025 will count against your 2025 credit.

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That makes sense! So basically once I do a rollover, I'm potentially affecting my Saver's Credit for that tax year regardless of which month I do it in. I think I'll try to make all my 2025 contributions before doing any rollovers, at least that way I'll know exactly how much I've contributed when calculating if the rollover wipes out my eligibility completely.

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Just wanted to add that if you decide to remove the excess contribution, make sure you specify to your brokerage that you want a "return of excess contributions" rather than just taking a normal distribution. The coding on the 1099-R will be different, and it matters for tax purposes!

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Molly Hansen

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Does this affect whether the 10% early withdrawal penalty applies? I'm under 59.5 and concerned about getting hit with that on top of paying taxes on the earnings.

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Great question. For the excess contribution amount itself, the 10% early withdrawal penalty doesn't apply when you're doing a return of excess contributions. However, the earnings portion of the excess contribution will be subject to the 10% penalty if you're under 59½, unless you qualify for another exception. The correct coding on the 1099-R helps ensure that only the earnings portion gets the penalty, not the entire distribution. That's why it's so important to specifically request a "return of excess contributions" and not just take a regular withdrawal.

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Brady Clean

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One other option to consider - if you haven't filed your 2023 taxes yet, you could withdraw the entire Roth contribution plus earnings and then NOT recharacterize at all. This would essentially "undo" your Roth contribution completely. Then you could contribute to a Traditional IRA and immediately do a backdoor Roth conversion if you're over the income limits. Might be cleaner than dealing with the excess contribution issue.

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Skylar Neal

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I think they already did the recharacterization from Traditional to Roth, not the other way around. They found out their income was too high for deductible Traditional IRA contributions, so they moved it to Roth, but now they're a bit over the Roth limit.

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TechNinja

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3 One important thing to remember with Dual Status returns is to write "Dual-Status Return" at the top of your 1040 form in red ink! I forgot this last year and it caused processing delays. Also, remember you need to submit two returns if you're changing FROM nonresident to resident (a 1040NR for the nonresident portion and a 1040 for the resident portion).

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TechNinja

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8 Do you really need to use red ink specifically? I don't have a red pen handy and wondering if black would be fine?

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TechNinja

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3 The IRS prefers red ink because it stands out to the processing center, but they'll still process your return if you use black ink. The most important thing is making sure you clearly write "Dual-Status Return" at the top of the first page. If you're using tax software that prints your return, you might need to manually write this after printing since most programs don't have an option to add this text automatically.

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TechNinja

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22 Anyone know if the rules for attaching W-2s are different for Dual Status returns versus regular returns? I e-file my regular returns but have to paper file when I have Dual Status, and I'm not sure if the document requirements are the same.

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TechNinja

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15 The rules are basically the same - any return that's filed on paper needs to have W-2s and certain 1099s (like 1099-R or 1099-NEC) attached. The difference is that with Dual Status returns, you have no choice but to paper file, while regular returns can usually be e-filed. With Dual Status returns, you may have additional documents to attach beyond what's typical for regular returns, such as Form 1042-S for US-source income as a nonresident, or documentation supporting your residency start/end date.

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Sean Kelly

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Worked at a tax firm for 4 years and saw this confusion constantly. Here's the simple breakdown: 1) Regular roof replacement = NO credit 2) Energy Star qualified roof products = POSSIBLE partial credit 3) Solar roof installation = SEPARATE solar credit Most people get excited hearing "home improvement credit" but don't realize how specific the qualifications are. Check energy.gov for the current list of qualifying improvements. And PLEASE keep manufacturer certifications for anything you claim! First thing auditors ask for.

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Zara Mirza

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If I had my roof replaced in December 2024 but don't pay the final invoice until January 2025, which tax year would any potential credits apply to? And is there a dollar limit on these credits?

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Sean Kelly

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For tax credits, what matters is when the installation was completed, not when you paid. If the work was finished in December 2024, that's when the qualifying expenses would count - for your 2024 tax return that you'll file in 2025. Yes, there are definitely limits. For the Energy Efficient Home Improvement Credit, the annual limit for qualifying improvements is $1,200 per year, with some specific subcategories having their own limits. Certain high-efficiency items like heat pumps have a separate higher limit. The rules and limits have changed several times in recent years, so always check the current year's guidelines when filing.

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Luca Russo

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anybody know if metal roofs qualify for the tax credit? my roofer is pushing me to go with metal saying ill get tax benefits but its $5k more expensive than regular shingles... worth it?

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Metal roofs can qualify for the Energy Efficient Home Improvement Credit, but only if they have specific Energy Star certifications and appropriate pigmented coatings designed to reduce heat gain. Not every metal roof qualifies automatically. Ask your roofer for the specific Energy Star certification documentation. The current credit is 30% of costs up to the annual limit. So if the metal roof truly qualifies, you'd get 30% back in tax credits (subject to annual limits). If the metal roof is $5K more but you'd get around $1,500 back in tax credits, plus better durability and potential energy savings on cooling costs, it might be worth considering. Just make sure to get proper documentation proving it qualifies.

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Don't forget to track your mileage with an app! I use MileIQ for my consulting business, and it automatically logs all my trips. You just swipe right for business or left for personal at the end of each day. Makes tax time so much easier, and you'll capture every deductible mile. For the meals, remember to keep the actual receipts, not just your credit card statement. IRS wants to see itemized receipts that show what you purchased, not just the total amount.

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Miguel Silva

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Does the mileage app distinguish between different types of business trips? Sometimes I'm visiting different locations for the same client project, and other times it's for separate clients. Would be great if I could categorize them.

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Most mileage apps do let you categorize trips by client or project type. In MileIQ, you can create custom categories like "Client A research" or "Client B meetings." Some even let you add notes to each trip with specific details. The more detailed your records, the better position you'll be in if you ever get audited. The IRS loves to see that level of organization since it demonstrates your deductions are legitimate business expenses rather than personal trips you're trying to write off.

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Just as a heads up, if your business is profitable for 3 out of 5 years, the IRS generally considers it a legitimate business rather than a hobby. This matters because hobby expenses are much more limited in terms of deductions. Since you're tracking mileage and meal expenses carefully, make sure you're also keeping good records of income to demonstrate profit motive.

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Emma Davis

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I thought they got rid of hobby expense deductions entirely with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act? Can you still deduct ANY hobby expenses?

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