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Need Help Understanding CARES Act COVID Withdrawal Repayment and Roth IRA Conversion

I've been searching everywhere and haven't found a clear answer for my situation. Here's what I'm dealing with: Back in June 2020, I took a CARES Act withdrawal from my 401k due to financial hardship during COVID. The amount was about $28,000 which is way more than the annual Roth contribution limit. Around the same time, I also moved my remaining 401k funds - split 50/50 between a Traditional IRA and Roth IRA. I figured it was a good time since the market had dropped about 25% in the spring crash, and my income for 2020 was really low, so the Roth conversion tax hit wasn't too bad. Fast forward to now - my financial situation has improved and I'm thinking about converting the rest of my Traditional IRA to Roth this year since my income is still relatively low. The big question is: I can now repay the ENTIRE CARES Act withdrawal, but I'm confused about the tax implications. If I repay the full CARES withdrawal now, should I also go ahead with converting the remaining Traditional IRA to Roth? Would this mean I'm getting double-taxed - once on the CARES withdrawal and then again on putting those funds into the Roth? I know I won't have the early withdrawal penalty thanks to the CARES Act, but I'm trying to understand the most tax-efficient approach. Has anyone dealt with repaying a CARES Act withdrawal while also doing Roth conversions? I understand I'll need to wait for Form 8915-E from the IRS before completing my taxes. Thanks for any help!

Has anyone considered the pro/cons of NOT repaying the CARES withdrawal? I took about $30k out and am now able to repay, but I'm wondering if it might actually be better to just pay the taxes (I selected the 3-year option) and keep the money out? My reasoning is that I'm 52 and might get more benefit from using that money now rather than having it locked away until retirement.

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It really depends on your overall financial situation and retirement goals. The big advantage of repaying is you're putting money back into tax-advantaged accounts that can grow for another 10+ years until you retire. That compounding can be significant. However, if you have high-interest debt, need to build emergency savings, or have other pressing financial priorities, it might make sense to keep the money out. Just remember that if you're on the 3-year tax plan, you'll continue to owe taxes on those distributions for 2021 and 2022. Also consider your current vs. future tax brackets - if you expect to be in a much higher bracket in retirement, maybe the Roth conversion makes more sense than repaying.

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I went through a very similar situation last year and want to share what I learned. First, definitely make sure you understand which tax treatment you originally elected for your CARES withdrawal - this makes a big difference in how the repayment works. One thing that caught me off guard was the timing. Even though you have until the 3-year deadline to repay, you need to make sure you do it in the right tax year if you want the tax benefits for that year. I almost missed this and would have had to wait until the following year to get my refund. Also, regarding your Roth conversion question - since you mentioned your income is still relatively low, this could be a great opportunity. You're essentially paying taxes now at lower rates to avoid potentially higher rates later. Just make sure you have enough cash outside of retirement accounts to pay the conversion taxes without touching the converted funds. Have you calculated what your total tax liability would be for both the CARES repayment (if you don't repay) and the Roth conversion? That might help you decide the optimal strategy.

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Have you checked if there were any math errors on your return? Sometimes that can cause major delays.

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Tyler Murphy

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I feel your pain! I'm actually going through something similar - been waiting 10 months for my 2023 refund. After reading through all these comments, I'm definitely going to check my tax transcript like Nick suggested. That breakdown of the codes to look for is super helpful. I had no idea about the Taxpayer Advocate Service either - might be worth looking into if this drags on much longer. It's frustrating how inconsistent the whole process seems to be. Some people get their refunds in weeks, others wait over a year. Hang in there, Ryan! šŸ¤ž

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Just to add another perspective - while it's definitely good to correct mistakes, don't overthink this too much. The Child and Dependent Care Credit is one that the IRS sees errors on constantly. The documentation requirements are confusing, and providers often make mistakes. As long as you did actually pay for childcare (even if the amount was lower than what was reported), this is really just a matter of filing the 1040-X with the correct amounts. Given that you're voluntarily correcting this before any IRS contact, they're extremely unlikely to view this as anything but a good-faith correction. Don't let anxiety about this consume you - it's a relatively minor correction in the grand scheme of tax issues.

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Grace Durand

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I went through almost the exact same situation two years ago with my daycare provider inflating numbers on their year-end statement. The guilt and anxiety were eating me alive, but the process was much smoother than I expected. Here's what worked for me: I filed Form 1040-X and in the explanation section wrote something like "Correcting Child and Dependent Care Credit based on actual amounts paid rather than inflated documentation provided by care provider." I included my bank statements and receipts showing the actual payments I made. The IRS processed my amended return without any issues - no audit, no penalties, just had to pay the additional tax owed plus a small amount of interest (maybe $18 on a $800 difference). The whole thing was resolved in about 8 weeks. The fact that you're coming forward voluntarily before they discover it shows good faith. Don't torture yourself over this - you trusted documentation that was provided to you, which is completely reasonable. File the 1040-X with the correct amounts and put this behind you. You're doing the right thing.

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CyberNinja

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Make sure to check your credit report ASAP!!! When my ex controlled our finances, he also opened credit cards in my name that I didn't know about. Financial abuse often extends beyond just taxes. Get free reports from all three bureaus through annualcreditreport.com and look for any accounts you don't recognize.

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Mateo Lopez

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This is such important advice. My friend discovered her ex had taken out a home equity loan she knew nothing about by forging her signature. It showed up on her credit report years later when she tried to buy a condo. Protecting yourself financially after leaving an abusive relationship means checking EVERYTHING.

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Omar Hassan

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Thank you for this reminder. I did check my credit right after leaving and fortunately didn't find anything suspicious, but I should probably check again since it's been several months. He had mentioned taking out a loan for home improvements that never happened, and now I'm wondering if that was another lie.

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Tyler Murphy

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - financial abuse is real and the tax implications can be overwhelming. Beyond the excellent advice about innocent spouse relief, I want to emphasize that you should act quickly. There are time limits for filing Form 8857, and the sooner you start the process, the better your chances of success. Document everything you can remember about being excluded from financial decisions. Screenshots of texts, emails, or even diary entries from that time period can help establish the pattern of control. The IRS needs to see that you had no reasonable opportunity to know about the fraudulent items on your joint returns. Also, don't let fear paralyze you. Yes, joint filers are generally liable for the entire tax bill, but innocent spouse relief exists specifically for situations like yours. The IRS has seen cases of financial abuse before, and they have procedures in place to help victims. You took the hardest step by leaving that relationship - now take the next step to protect yourself financially.

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$1,345 TurboTax Refund Accepted 28 Days Ago - Federal ($1,117) & Missouri ($228) Still "Processing" on WMR Past Est. Deposit Date of 02/12/25

I submitted my federal and state tax returns through TurboTax and I'm really confused about my refund status. According to my TurboTax dashboard, my total refund amount should be $1,345. This breaks down to $1,117 for my federal return and $228 for my Missouri state return. My TurboTax account clearly shows: 2024 tax return $1,345 refund And the status for both returns shows: FEDERAL ACCEPTED $1,117 01/22/2025 STATE MO ACCEPTED MO $228 02/02/2025 I submitted everything on 01/19/25, and my IRS Refund had an estimated deposit date of 02/12/25. TurboTax clearly shows both returns as "ACCEPTED" but I still haven't received anything in my bank account. When I check the "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website, it's just been saying "processing" for almost a month now. This is really frustrating because my TurboTax dashboard is showing everything as "ACCEPTED" with the green checkmarks and all, but I still don't have my money. I can download my return from TurboTax, and everything looks correct there. The submission dates match what's on my dashboard (federal submitted/accepted on 01/22/2025 and state accepted on 02/02/2025), but the money is nowhere to be seen. I really need some guidance on what to do next. Should I be worried that something's wrong with my return since it's been processing for so long? Is there a difference between "accepted" and "approved" that I'm missing? Does this processing time seem normal? I was counting on this refund and really need the money.

Amara Okafor

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Heads up - calling the IRS is basically impossible rn. I tried for 2 weeks straight and couldn't get through. Save yourself the headache

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fr fr took me 3 hours on hold just to get hung up on šŸ’€

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I'm in a similar situation - filed early and have been stuck in "processing" limbo for weeks now. One thing that helped me understand what might be happening is that the IRS has been dealing with some system upgrades and staffing issues that are causing longer processing times than usual this year. The fact that both your federal and state returns show as "accepted" is actually a good sign - it means there were no immediate red flags that would cause an outright rejection. The processing delay could be due to several factors: identity verification reviews, earned income credit verification, or just general backlog. Since you're past your estimated deposit date of 02/12, you might want to wait another week or two before taking action. If you're still stuck in processing by early March, you could try calling the taxpayer advocate service - they're sometimes easier to reach than the main IRS line and can help with extended delays. Also double-check that your bank account info matches exactly what you put on your return, including account type (checking vs savings). Sometimes even small discrepancies can cause delays.

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