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Don't forget to check if you need to make estimated tax payments to California's Franchise Tax Board too! The FTB has their own payment system separate from the IRS called WebPay. Since you mentioned you're a California resident, you'll likely owe state taxes on that property sale as well. I made this mistake last year and only focused on the federal portion. Ended up with a penalty from California because I didn't make my estimated payment on time. The California tax on my property sale wasn't small either!
I went through almost the exact same situation two years ago when I sold my investment property and had to handle everything while backpacking through Southeast Asia. Here's what worked for me: First, definitely set up your electronic payment BEFORE you leave. I used IRS Direct Pay and it was seamless - no enrollment required and you can schedule the payment in advance. With $95k, you'll want to double-check the daily/monthly limits on your Bank of America account for ACH transfers. Second, consider making your payment in installments if cash flow is tight. The IRS allows you to set up payment plans online, and the fees are pretty reasonable compared to the stress of coming up with the full amount at once. Most importantly - and I can't stress this enough - file for the extension if you haven't already, even though CA residents get the automatic October extension. Having that official extension on file gives you extra protection if anything goes wrong. One last tip: Download the IRS2Go mobile app before you leave. You can check the status of your return and payments from anywhere, which gave me huge peace of mind while I was dealing with spotty WiFi in rural Thailand. Safe travels and don't let tax stress ruin your trip! You've got plenty of time to get this sorted before you leave.
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your real-world experience! I'm especially glad you mentioned checking the daily/monthly ACH limits with Bank of America. That's something I definitely need to verify before I leave. The installment plan option is also something I hadn't considered. Do you remember roughly what the fees were like for setting that up? With such a large amount, even a small percentage could add up, but if it helps with cash flow management while traveling, it might be worth it. Also, did you have any issues accessing the IRS2Go app from different countries, or does it work everywhere as long as you have internet? Thanks again for the detailed advice - it's exactly what I needed to hear from someone who's actually been through this!
You might want to consider submitting Form 911 (Taxpayer Advocate Service Application) if this is causing financial hardship or if your PCS timeline creates special circumstances. The Taxpayer Advocate can sometimes expedite processing when there are compelling reasons. The normal 20-week processing timeframe might be problematic with your military relocation timeline.
@Geoff Richards I completely understand your frustration as a military spouse! The processing times are definitely longer than they used to be. One thing that might help with your PCS timeline - if you're moving overseas or to a combat zone, you may qualify for extended filing deadlines which could give you more breathing room. Also, make sure you keep detailed records of your amended return submission since military families sometimes need to reference tax documents for security clearances or other military processes. Have you considered reaching out to the legal assistance office on base? They sometimes have contacts who can help navigate IRS issues for military families. Hang in there! πΊπΈ
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're paying a large amount, check your credit card limits before trying to use Pay1040! I tried to pay my $14,000 tax bill with my credit card (wanted those sweet travel points) but got declined because it exceeded my single transaction limit, even though my overall credit limit was higher. Had to call my credit card company to get temporary approval for the large transaction. Also, calculate the processing fee before deciding - on larger amounts, the 1.87% can add up quickly.
Thanks for bringing that up! My tax bill is about $8,500 so I'll definitely check with my card company first. Did you find the credit card points were worth the processing fee in the end?
In my case, yes, the points were worth it. I have a card that gives 2.2% back on all purchases, so I came out slightly ahead even after the 1.87% fee. I basically got about $46 in "profit" from the points after subtracting the fee, plus I got to delay the actual payment until my credit card bill was due. Just make sure to do the math for your specific card rewards program. And definitely call your card company beforehand for large amounts. Some will approve it immediately over the phone, others might require a waiting period.
For what it's worth, I've used both EFTPS and Pay1040 multiple times. EFTPS is better for planned payments (like quarterly estimated taxes) since you can schedule them in advance. Pay1040 is better for last-minute payments when you need it to process immediately. If you plan to make any future tax payments (like if you're self-employed), it's worth registering for EFTPS now anyway, even if you use Pay1040 for your current payment. That way you'll be all set up for next time without the waiting period.
This is slightly off-topic, but has anyone been audited for ERTC claims? My S-Corp got the refund for 2020-2021 (about $62k), and I'm working on the amendments now, but I'm hearing horror stories about aggressive audits specifically targeting ERTC. I'm reducing the wage expense by the full amount as others have said, but I'm worried about whether our original claim will be scrutinized. We had a 37% revenue drop in the qualifying quarters, so I think we're solid, but these rumors about audits have me nervous.
Our company was selected for review (not a full audit) about 4 months after receiving our ERTC. They mostly wanted documentation proving our revenue decline and that we had eligible wages. We provided quarterly P&Ls, bank statements, and payroll records. After about 6 weeks they closed the review with no changes. Just keep good documentation!
I went through this exact same situation with my S-Corp last year! The key thing to remember is that you reduce wage expenses by the FULL ERTC amount you received (minus any interest). This includes both the refundable and nonrefundable portions. When I was doing my amendments, I made the mistake initially of only reducing by the refundable portion, but my CPA caught it and explained that the IRS considers the entire credit as essentially reimbursing wages you already deducted. You can't get a tax benefit twice for the same expense. Make sure you're amending the correct tax years - so if you got credits for 2020 Q2-Q4 and 2021 Q1-Q3, you'll need separate amended 1120S forms for each year. Also, don't forget that these wage expense reductions will flow through to your K-1 and affect your personal return too. Good luck with getting everything sorted before your accountant gets back! Having all your documentation organized will definitely make that meeting go much smoother.
Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful. I'm curious - when the wage expense reductions flowed through to your K-1, did it significantly impact your personal tax liability? I'm trying to estimate what the effect will be on my individual return since the reduced business expenses will increase my pass-through income. Also, did you have to make any estimated tax payments to cover the additional tax from the increased K-1 income, or were you able to handle it at year-end filing?
Great question! Yes, it did impact my personal return since the reduced wage expenses increased my pass-through income from the S-Corp. In my case, the $78k ERTC reduction added about that same amount to my K-1 ordinary business income. The tax impact wasn't as bad as I initially feared though, because you have to remember you're essentially trading the wage expense deduction for the ERTC refund you already received. So while your taxable income goes up, you got that cash refund to help cover the additional taxes. I didn't make estimated payments because I discovered this late in the year, but I did have to pay some additional tax at filing. My advice would be to calculate the estimated impact now and consider making a quarterly payment if the amount is significant - better to be safe than pay underpayment penalties. Your accountant can help you run the numbers once they're back from vacation.
Harmony Love
The Michigan Treasury is so behind rn its not even funny. Their still processing stuff from January smh
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Rudy Cenizo
β’facts. they need to hire more people or something
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Ivanna St. Pierre
I feel your pain! Filed mine paper on Feb 5th and still waiting too. Called the Michigan Treasury helpline yesterday and they said they're running about 8-10 weeks behind on paper returns due to staffing issues. The automated system won't even show your return until they physically scan it into their system, which could be weeks from when they receive it. Hang in there - at least we'll get our refunds eventually!
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