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Make sure you get this fixed before filing your taxes! My cousin had something similar happen with his dad's IRA at a small bank and ended up paying taxes on the whole thing because he didn't realize the mistake until after he filed. He tried to amend later but it was a huge headache that took like 18 months to resolve. The key issue is the distribution code in Box 7 of the 1099-R. For a properly handled beneficiary IRA distribution due to death, it should be coded as a "4" not a "1" or "7". If it's coded wrong, the IRS computers automatically treat it as fully taxable.
Do you know if we need to get the 1099-R corrected before we file, or can we just file with the explanation that it's incorrect? The tax filing deadline is coming up soon and I'm worried the credit union won't fix this in time.
You really want to get the corrected 1099-R before filing if at all possible. Filing with an explanation that contradicts the 1099-R information the IRS has on file often triggers correspondence audits or notices. If you're running close to the deadline, file an extension to give yourself more time to get this corrected. An extension gives you an additional six months to file (though not to pay, but in this case the correct tax should be much lower or zero). The credit union should be able to issue a corrected 1099-R within a few weeks if they acknowledge their mistake.
Has anyone mentioned the 10% early withdrawal penalty yet? If your wife is under 59.5, that could be an additional hit on top of the income tax unless this gets fixed properly. When my husband's credit union messed up his inherited IRA from his grandmother, we got slapped with both regular income tax AND a 10% penalty on the whole amount.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're self-employed, you should definitely be making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid this problem in the future. Pay as you go through the year (April, June, Sept, and Jan of the following year) and you won't end up with a huge bill at tax time. I learned this the hard way too. Got hit with a $8k tax bill my first year of self-employment and couldn't pay it all at once. Now I put aside 25-30% of every payment I receive and make quarterly payments. No more surprises!
Do you set aside a separate bank account for this? I've tried to do quarterly payments but always end up spending the money I should be saving for taxes.
Yes, I have a separate savings account specifically for taxes! This was game-changing for me. Every time I get paid, I immediately transfer 30% to this account. I don't even think of that money as mine - it's already the government's money that I'm just holding temporarily. Some banks let you create sub-accounts with different names, which helps mentally. I named mine "NOT MY MONEY - TAXES" to remind myself not to touch it except for quarterly payments. Having it separate from your main checking account removes the temptation to spend it.
Don't forget that if you paid penalties and interest on your 2023 taxes, those are treated differently than the tax itself. While the $13,500 tax payment isn't deductible on your 2024 return, any interest you paid on late taxes might be deductible if you itemize. Penalties are never deductible though. If you paid through the IRS payment system, you should be able to see the breakdown of what portion was tax, what was penalty, and what was interest. Might be a small silver lining!
Wait really? Interest on tax payments can be deducted? That's amazing, I paid about $400 in interest because I was on a payment plan. Do you know which form this goes on?
do u have an actual accountant or just a tax preparer? big difference tbh. my "accountant" last year was just a lady at a strip mall tax place & she missed tons of stuff. real accountant this year saved me like $3,200 by finding actual business deductions & doing proper income splitting
This is so true! I used to go to one of those chain tax places and when I finally switched to a CPA, the difference was huge. Worth every penny, especially for self-employment stuff.
make sure ur quarterly estimated payments are higher next year!! that was my mistake too. if ur income is increasing, u need to adjust estimates. i use the safe harbor rule - pay 110% of last year's tax & avoid penalties even if u end up owing more.
Here's what our CPA firm is doing for clients with this issue: 1. We're creating a workpaper that clearly separates business meals into two categories: pre-1/1/2023 (100% deductible) and post-12/31/2022 (50% deductible) 2. For clients with good recordkeeping, we're using the actual dates of each meal 3. For clients with less detailed records, we're doing a pro-rata allocation based on 9 months at 100% and 3 months at 50% The IRS hasn't specifically addressed this fiscal year issue in any publications I've seen, but the calendar-specific language in the original legislation is pretty clear that the enhanced deduction ends 12/31/2022.
Have any of your clients using the pro-rata approach been audited yet? I'm worried that might be seen as too simplified if the actual spending pattern wasn't evenly distributed throughout the year.
None of our clients using this approach have been audited yet. You raise a valid concern though. If a client's business is seasonal or their meal expenses fluctuate significantly throughout the year, a pro-rata allocation wouldn't be appropriate. In those cases, we recommend either analyzing the actual receipts or using a reasonable allocation based on their business patterns (like quarterly sales figures or similar metrics that would correlate with business meal activity).
Has anyone heard if Congress might extend the 100% meal deduction? I heard rumors they might bring it back since restaurants are still struggling in many areas. Would hate to spend hours implementing a split approach if they're just going to retroactively extend it again.
I haven't seen any serious legislation proposed to extend it. There was some industry lobbying from restaurant associations, but it doesn't seem to have gained traction. I'd proceed with the split approach rather than counting on a retroactive extension.
Kirsuktow DarkBlade
Make sure you check if you need to file a foreclosure or satisfy other legal requirements to properly reclaim your property. I had a similar situation and thought I could just "take back" my property when the buyer defaulted, but ended up having to go through a formal foreclosure process depending on state laws. This also affects how you handle the tax situation.
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Abigail bergen
β’This is so important! My brother thought he could just reclaim his property when a buyer defaulted on owner financing, but it turned into a legal nightmare because he didn't follow the proper foreclosure procedures in his state. The tax implications were also way more complicated because of it.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
β’Exactly right. Each state has different laws regarding owner financing and foreclosure requirements. Some states treat these transactions like mortgages requiring judicial foreclosure, while others allow for simpler processes if you used a land contract or contract for deed. The tax implications directly tie to the legal process. If you don't properly document the default and reclamation according to your state's laws, you could have trouble justifying your tax treatment to the IRS. It's worth consulting with a real estate attorney who specializes in your state's foreclosure laws before finalizing your tax approach.
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Ahooker-Equator
Quick question - does anyone know if we can deduct any legal fees associated with reclaiming the property after a default? I paid around $900 to an attorney to help me through the process when my buyer stopped paying on our owner-financed deal.
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Anderson Prospero
β’You should be able to add those legal fees to your basis in the property since they're directly related to defending/clearing title. They're not immediately deductible expenses but get factored into your basis, which will reduce any gain when you eventually sell the property again.
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