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One thing I'm not seeing mentioned is that you need to make sure the courses actually qualify for LLC. Just because money is listed on a 1098-T doesn't automatically make it eligible for the credit. The courses need to be taken at an eligible educational institution (basically any accredited post-secondary school), and they need to be job-related skills. Hobby courses don't qualify. Also, expenses for books and supplies only count if they're paid directly to the educational institution. For your presentation, you might want to include examples of what does and doesn't qualify as eligible education expenses.
Actually, I don't think the Lifetime Learning Credit requires courses to be job-related. That's a requirement for the business deduction for work-related education, but not for LLC. The LLC can be used for any courses that help acquire or improve job skills, even if they're not related to your current job.
Pro tip for your presentation: explain that unlike the American Opportunity Credit, the Lifetime Learning Credit doesn't require the student to be at least half-time. This makes it perfect for the scenario you described where someone is taking non-degree courses for career advancement. Also, the LLC can be claimed for an unlimited number of years, while the AOC is limited to 4 tax years. These are key differences that many tax preparers overlook when advising clients about education benefits!
14 Don't forget about identity theft concerns when shredding tax documents! I work in financial security, and you should definitely use a cross-cut shredder, not a strip-cut one. Those tax documents and pay stubs have your SSN, bank account numbers, and everything someone would need for identity theft. Even better, many communities have free shredding events where they bring industrial shredders to a central location. I take all my sensitive documents to these events rather than trying to shred them at home - it's faster and more secure.
22 This is really good advice. I never thought about the difference between shredders. Are there any warning signs that a community shredding event might not be legitimate? I've seen these advertised but wasn't sure if I should trust them.
14 Legitimate shredding events are typically sponsored by local governments, credit unions, banks, or established community organizations. Look for events that are regularly scheduled (like annual community shred days), have been running for multiple years, and are held in public locations with official sponsors. Red flags would include events with no clear sponsoring organization, those held in isolated locations, or operations that don't allow you to watch your documents being shredded. Most legitimate services will shred your documents right in front of you in industrial trucks with viewing screens. They also typically provide a certificate of destruction for your records.
3 Something nobody mentioned - if you claimed depreciation on equipment or property, you need to keep those records for 3 years after you file the return for the year you stop using the item or sell it. I learned this the hard way when I got audited for a home office deduction from 5 years prior because I had sold my house!
7 Oh wow, that's really good to know! I've been depreciating my laptop for my side gig and was planning to get a new one next year. So I'd need to keep all those receipts and depreciation schedules until 3 years after I file taxes for next year?
3 Why not just hand your parents all your tax forms EXCEPT the 1099 from the donation place, then file an amended return later adding that income? That way your parents never see it but you're still reporting everything to the IRS properly.
9 This is actually really bad advice. Filing an amended return to add income you intentionally left off initially could potentially trigger audit flags. The IRS might wonder what other income you "forgot" to report the first time. Better to just do it right the first time.
3 I think you're right about the potential audit concerns - I didn't consider that. My suggestion was more focused on privacy than tax optimization. A better approach would be what others have suggested - taking control of your own tax filing this year. Tax software makes it pretty straightforward, and it's an important adult skill to develop anyway.
16 Another option nobody mentioned - you could just tell your parents you received a 1099 for some freelance work or consulting, but be vague about what exactly you did. "I helped a medical company with some research" isn't exactly a lie. They don't need to know all the specific details, just that you had reportable income.
1 I appreciate the suggestion but I'm nervous about even mentioning a medical company. My parents are pretty nosy and would definitely ask a ton of follow-up questions that I'm not prepared to answer convincingly. I think I'm going to go with filing my own taxes this year. It seems like the cleanest solution based on all the advice here. Thanks everyone for the help!
I do mega backdoor Roth conversions every year and here's the simplest way to handle it in H&R Block: 1. Enter your 1099-R information exactly as it appears 2. When you get to the screen asking about the type of distribution, select "Rollover" 3. On the next screen, it should ask if you want to override the taxable amount - select YES 4. Enter zero as the taxable amount 5. Make sure to complete Form 8606 to document your basis The key is that Form 8606 needs to show that you've already paid tax on these contributions. Without that form, the IRS has no way to know that this was after-tax money.
What if I did a direct rollover from my 401k to Roth IRA without going through a traditional IRA first? My 1099-R has code G in box 7 but still has the full amount as taxable. Do I still need Form 8606 in this case?
If you did a direct rollover from a 401k to a Roth IRA, the process is a bit different. Code G indicates a direct rollover, but whether it's taxable depends on whether the 401k portion was pre-tax or after-tax money. If it was after-tax contributions from your 401k going directly to a Roth IRA, then yes, you would still want to override the taxable amount. However, Form 8606 is primarily for tracking basis in IRAs, not 401ks. You'll need to document your after-tax contributions to the 401k separately, usually by providing records from your plan administrator showing which portion was after-tax.
Has anyone successfully e-filed with this situation? I'm concerned that if I override the taxable amount to zero when my 1099-R shows the full amount as taxable, my return might get rejected. Should I just file by mail with an explanation letter attached?
AstroAlpha
Have you considered hiring a bookkeeper who specializes in small food businesses? I have a bakery LLC and tried doing everything myself for the first year. Big mistake. Ended up missing some major deductions and probably overpaid by thousands. Found a local bookkeeper who charges me $200/month and she handles all my QuickBooks categorization, reconciliation, and prepares everything for my tax filing. She also helped me understand when to make estimated tax payments and how much to set aside. For coffee wholesale, you probably have inventory management tax considerations that are even more complex than my situation.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
ā¢Do you think $200/month is worth it at my current size? That seems like a lot when we're only making about $6-7k in revenue (not profit). Did you find that the tax savings offset the bookkeeping costs right away or did it take time?
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AstroAlpha
ā¢At your current size, you might look for a more limited arrangement. Instead of full monthly service, you could find someone who does quarterly reviews of your books for less money. I started with quarterly help at about $300 per quarter when my revenue was similar to yours. The value became apparent after the first tax season when she found several deductions I'd missed, like a portion of my home utilities for my home office and some vehicle expenses for deliveries. She also properly categorized some equipment that I could depreciate. The tax savings definitely outweighed the costs, even in the first year. As your business grows, especially in wholesale with inventory tracking, having properly maintained books becomes increasingly valuable.
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Yara Khoury
Don't overlook state-specific LLC taxes and fees! In CA where I am, there's a minimum $800 annual LLC tax regardless of whether you make any profit. Nearly killed my small business before it got off the ground. Also be careful about nexus issues if you're selling across state lines - some states will want you to file taxes if you have enough sales there.
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Keisha Taylor
ā¢Yes! This is so important. I'm in NY and got hit with some surprises too. OP, what state are you in? Some states treat pass-through entities very differently than others. Also, does your city have any special business taxes? Local taxes caught me completely off guard.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
ā¢I'm in Texas, so no state income tax, but we do have franchise tax if the revenue gets above a certain threshold. Thankfully I've already got sales tax permits and exemption certificates for our cafe customers. Good reminder though - there are definitely a lot of moving pieces to keep track of!
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