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Cynthia Love

ERTC and amending prior tax returns - which amount to use for S-Corp adjustments?

Hey folks, I'm completely overwhelmed with this ERTC situation. I own a small marketing S-Corp and finally received my Employee Retention Credit refund checks for the 2020 and 2021 quarters I applied for (about $78,000 total). But now I'm staring at these amended 1120S forms I need to file and I'm confused about how to reduce the wage expense deduction I originally claimed. Do I need to reduce my wage expenses (lines 7/8 on the 1120S) by the FULL amount of the refund I received (minus the interest part)? Like do I include both the refundable credit portion AND the nonrefundable portion (the tax decrease)? Or am I only supposed to reduce by the refundable credit amount? My accountant is on vacation for another week and I'm trying to get organized before our meeting. Any business owners who've dealt with this ERTC amendment process, I'd really appreciate your guidance!

Darren Brooks

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The ERTC can be confusing, but I can help clarify. When amending your 1120S for the quarters you received the Employee Retention Credit, you need to reduce your wage expense deduction by the FULL amount of the credit received (excluding any interest payments). This means you should reduce by both the refundable and nonrefundable portions of the ERTC. The IRS views the entire credit as essentially a reimbursement for wages you already deducted, so you need to "add back" the full amount to prevent double-dipping on the tax benefit. Make sure you're amending the specific tax years that correspond to the quarters for which you received the credit. If you received credits for quarters in both 2020 and 2021, you'll need to file amended returns for both years separately.

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Rosie Harper

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Thank you for explaining! I'm in a similar situation but with a C-Corp. When you say reduce by the "full amount" - does that include the amount that went toward the employer portion of Social Security tax? Or literally just the credit amount on the check?

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Darren Brooks

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For a C-Corp, you would follow the same principle - reduce the wage deduction by the full credit amount you received. This does not include the employer portion of Social Security tax deferral (which was a separate COVID relief provision). The reduction should match exactly with the ERTC amount refunded to you on the check, not including any interest payments added by the IRS. The key is that you can't deduct expenses that were essentially reimbursed by the government through the credit.

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After spending weeks trying to figure out the ERTC amendment nightmare for my business, I finally found a tool that saved me so much time and stress. I was getting conflicting advice about how to handle the wage expense reduction, and I was terrified of making a mistake. I used https://taxr.ai to upload my ERTC documentation and original returns, and it analyzed everything and gave me step-by-step guidance on exactly how to complete the amended returns. It identified that I needed to reduce my wage expenses by the full amount of the credit (both refundable and nonrefundable portions). The tool even highlighted which specific line items needed adjustment based on my particular situation. The platform explained all the considerations specific to S-Corps with the ERTC and helped me avoid what would have been a costly mistake with how I was calculating the wage expense reduction.

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Demi Hall

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Did it help with figuring out the flow-through impact to your K-1? That's what I'm struggling with the most - understanding how the ERTC adjustments affect what flows to my personal return.

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I'm a bit skeptical - how does it handle the different ERTC calculations for 2020 vs 2021 since the rules changed? My accountant said the 2021 quarters have a completely different methodology.

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Yes, it absolutely helped with the K-1 impact! It showed me exactly how the reduced expenses would flow through to the K-1 and affect my ordinary business income. It even provided guidance on how those changes would impact my personal return. For the 2020 vs 2021 differences, it handles them automatically based on the specific quarters you're claiming. The system applies the different qualification criteria, wage limitations, and credit percentages for each period. It recognized the shifts in rules between the two years, including the expanded eligibility and increased credit percentage for 2021. It actually saved me from making a calculation error that would have understated my 2021 credit.

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Kara Yoshida

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Just wanted to share my experience trying to call the IRS about ERTC amendments. I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to someone who could answer my S-Corp ERTC questions. Every time I called, I'd wait on hold for 2+ hours only to get disconnected or transferred to someone who didn't know how to help. I was about to give up when a friend told me about https://claimyr.com - they have this service where they navigate the IRS phone tree for you and actually get you connected to a live IRS agent. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was skeptical but desperate. Within 35 minutes, I was talking to an actual IRS specialist who confirmed I needed to reduce my wage expense by the full ERTC amount (both refundable and nonrefundable) and explained exactly how to complete the amended 1120S forms. She even emailed me relevant IRS guidance documents afterward.

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Philip Cowan

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Wait how does this even work? So they call the IRS for you and then connect you somehow? Seems kind of sketchy - does the IRS actually allow third parties to transfer calls like that?

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Caesar Grant

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I've tried calling the IRS business line 5 times about my ERTC and always get disconnected. But I'm really suspicious of any service claiming they can get through. The IRS is a disaster right now. How much did this cost, and was it really worth it?

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Kara Yoshida

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Caesar Grant

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Lena Schultz

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I've been dealing with ERTC amendments for clients all year, and there's a lot of confusion about this exact issue. The correct approach is to reduce wage expenses by the FULL amount of the ERTC (excluding interest). However, there's one important wrinkle: the timing. The wage expense reduction needs to happen in the year the credit was claimed, NOT necessarily when you received the check. So if you filed for ERTC in 2023 but the credits were for 2020/2021 quarters, you amend the 2020/2021 returns. Also, don't forget this will likely change your basis in the S-Corp, which flows through to your personal return. Make sure your tax software correctly handles this flow-through impact.

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Gemma Andrews

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Wait this is making me panic. I got my ERTC refund in 2022 but I didn't amend my 2020/2021 returns yet. Am I going to get penalized? Is there a deadline for filing the amendments?

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Lena Schultz

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Don't panic! While technically you should amend the returns as soon as possible after receiving the credit, there's generally no specific penalty just for delaying the amendment filing. You should file the amended returns as soon as you reasonably can. The key deadline to be aware of is the general 3-year statute of limitations for amendments, which starts from the date you filed the original return. So for 2020 returns filed in 2021, you typically have until 2024 to amend. For 2021 returns filed in 2022, you'd have until 2025.

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Pedro Sawyer

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This is slightly off-topic, but has anyone been audited for ERTC claims? My S-Corp got the refund for 2020-2021 (about $62k), and I'm working on the amendments now, but I'm hearing horror stories about aggressive audits specifically targeting ERTC. I'm reducing the wage expense by the full amount as others have said, but I'm worried about whether our original claim will be scrutinized. We had a 37% revenue drop in the qualifying quarters, so I think we're solid, but these rumors about audits have me nervous.

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Mae Bennett

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Our company was selected for review (not a full audit) about 4 months after receiving our ERTC. They mostly wanted documentation proving our revenue decline and that we had eligible wages. We provided quarterly P&Ls, bank statements, and payroll records. After about 6 weeks they closed the review with no changes. Just keep good documentation!

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Justin Trejo

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I went through this exact same situation with my S-Corp last year! The key thing to remember is that you reduce wage expenses by the FULL ERTC amount you received (minus any interest). This includes both the refundable and nonrefundable portions. When I was doing my amendments, I made the mistake initially of only reducing by the refundable portion, but my CPA caught it and explained that the IRS considers the entire credit as essentially reimbursing wages you already deducted. You can't get a tax benefit twice for the same expense. Make sure you're amending the correct tax years - so if you got credits for 2020 Q2-Q4 and 2021 Q1-Q3, you'll need separate amended 1120S forms for each year. Also, don't forget that these wage expense reductions will flow through to your K-1 and affect your personal return too. Good luck with getting everything sorted before your accountant gets back! Having all your documentation organized will definitely make that meeting go much smoother.

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Nia Williams

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful. I'm curious - when the wage expense reductions flowed through to your K-1, did it significantly impact your personal tax liability? I'm trying to estimate what the effect will be on my individual return since the reduced business expenses will increase my pass-through income. Also, did you have to make any estimated tax payments to cover the additional tax from the increased K-1 income, or were you able to handle it at year-end filing?

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Great question! Yes, it did impact my personal return since the reduced wage expenses increased my pass-through income from the S-Corp. In my case, the $78k ERTC reduction added about that same amount to my K-1 ordinary business income. The tax impact wasn't as bad as I initially feared though, because you have to remember you're essentially trading the wage expense deduction for the ERTC refund you already received. So while your taxable income goes up, you got that cash refund to help cover the additional taxes. I didn't make estimated payments because I discovered this late in the year, but I did have to pay some additional tax at filing. My advice would be to calculate the estimated impact now and consider making a quarterly payment if the amount is significant - better to be safe than pay underpayment penalties. Your accountant can help you run the numbers once they're back from vacation.

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