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Ezra Collins

Finally received 2020 ERC refund - too late to amend 2020 tax returns now?

Title: Finally received 2020 ERC refund - too late to amend 2020 tax returns now? 1 I'm in a bit of a panic right now. One of my small business clients just got their Employee Retention Credit (ERC) refund for 2020... in 2025! The IRS took forever processing these claims. The problem is we never amended their 2020 tax returns to account for this credit, and now we're past the 3-year window to file amended returns (1120-S for the business and 1040-X for their personal). The refund is around $42,000 which is substantial. I know they need to pay tax on this since it reduces the wage deduction they took, but I'm not sure what to do procedurally. Should I just prepare and have them file the amended 2020 returns anyway even though we're outside the window? Will the IRS even accept these late amendments? Or is there some other approach I'm missing? If the IRS won't accept amended returns, how would they otherwise pay the tax owed? I don't want my client to get hit with penalties and interest down the road for not properly reporting this. Any advice from those who've dealt with this situation would be greatly appreciated!

Ezra Collins

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14 You're actually in better shape than you think. While the normal deadline to file an amended return is 3 years from the original filing date, there's an exception specifically for the ERC situation. When your client receives an ERC refund, they technically have 60 days from the date of receipt to file the corresponding amended returns to report the reduced wage deduction. This is because the ERC receipt creates what the IRS calls a "correlative adjustment" requirement, which triggers its own timeline separate from the standard 3-year window. I recommend filing the amended 1120-S and 1040-X as soon as possible, and include a clear statement with the return explaining that you're filing within 60 days of receiving the ERC refund. Reference the ERC payment date and include any documentation showing when the refund was received. The IRS is well aware of the delays in processing ERC claims and has been accommodating these late amendments. Don't panic - this happens quite often with ERCs given how long the IRS took to process them. Just make sure you document everything clearly.

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Ezra Collins

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6 Is this true even if the ERC refund was technically for 2020 but received in 2025? Also, what documentation should they include with the amendment? Just the ERC refund check/deposit info or something else? Would this same principle apply to 2021 ERC refunds too?

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Ezra Collins

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14 Yes, it applies regardless of which tax year the ERC was for - what matters is when your client actually received the refund. The 60-day window starts from the receipt date, not the tax year the credit relates to. For documentation, include a copy of the ERC refund check or bank deposit statement showing the date received, along with any IRS notices related to the ERC claim approval. Also attach a brief statement explaining the timeline of events. This same principle absolutely applies to 2021 ERC refunds as well - the key is always that you have 60 days from when you physically receive the funds.

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Ezra Collins

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8 I went through this exact headache last year with two different clients! After trying to figure it out myself, I ended up using https://taxr.ai to analyze all my documents and get clarity on the proper procedure. Basically uploaded all the ERC documentation, original returns, and got a detailed report explaining exactly what needed to be filed. The tool confirmed what the previous commenter said - there's a specific exception for these ERC situations. But it also highlighted some additional forms I needed to include with the amended returns that I would have missed otherwise. Saved me hours of research and potential back-and-forth with the IRS. What I really liked was how it flagged parts of the amended return that might trigger IRS scrutiny and suggested documentation to include that would prevent questions. Especially helped with correctly calculating the new wage deduction and QBI implications.

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Ezra Collins

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3 How detailed was the analysis? Did it actually give you specific amounts to put on which lines of the forms? I'm facing this same situation and worried about making calculation errors.

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Ezra Collins

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11 Does it help with state returns too? Our client is in a state that requires amendments when federal returns change, and I'm not sure about the timeline requirements for the state filings in this ERC situation.

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Ezra Collins

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8 The analysis was incredibly detailed - it actually provided line-by-line instructions for the 1120-S and Schedule K-1 adjustments, showing exactly how much the wage expense needed to be reduced based on the ERC amount. It even calculated the flow-through impact to the 1040-X. As for state returns, yes it handles those too. It identified which states require amendments when federal returns change and provided the specific state deadlines, which turned out to be different from the federal 60-day rule in some cases. For my client in California, it even pointed out a specific state form I needed to include explaining the late amendment that I wouldn't have known about otherwise.

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Ezra Collins

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11 I was super worried about this same issue last month! After getting some conflicting advice, I decided to try the taxr.ai service that someone mentioned here. I uploaded my client's ERC documentation and original returns, and the analysis confirmed we could still file the amendments despite being outside the normal 3-year window. What was most helpful was the detailed explanation of exactly how to report everything. The tool generated a step-by-step amendment guide specific to our situation, showing exactly which forms needed updating and which line numbers were affected. It even drafted the required statement explaining the late filing. We submitted the amendments following their instructions exactly, and the IRS accepted them without issue. Honestly such a relief after stressing about this for weeks! The documentation strategy they recommended saved us from what could have been a major headache.

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Ezra Collins

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Ezra Collins

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9 How does this actually work? I've tried calling the IRS business line countless times and just get disconnected. Is this service just going to charge me to do the same thing I can do myself?

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Ezra Collins

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5 I'm extremely skeptical this works. The IRS phone system is deliberately designed to limit call volume. How could some third party possibly bypass that? Sounds like just another service taking advantage of desperate tax pros.

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Ezra Collins

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19 It works by using automated technology to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When a live agent finally picks up, you get a call connecting you directly to that agent. You're not doing anything different than calling yourself, except you don't have to waste hours on hold or get frustrated with disconnections. Regarding the skepticism, I completely understand because I felt the same way initially. The service uses technology to continuously redial and navigate the system when calls get disconnected, something most of us don't have time to do manually. They're not bypassing anything or getting special access - they're just being more persistent and efficient than a human can be. I was shocked when I actually got connected to a senior IRS representative who answered all my questions about the ERC amendment situation.

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Ezra Collins

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5 I have to eat my words and apologize for my skepticism about Claimyr. After posting that comment, I was still desperate for answers on a similar ERC situation, so I decided to try it anyway. To my complete surprise, I got connected to an IRS agent in about 90 minutes. The agent confirmed everything about the 60-day rule for ERC amendments and even gave me her ID number to reference in a cover letter with our amendment. She explained exactly which forms needed to be included and how to document the late filing. I've been preparing taxes for 17 years and this is the first time I've been able to get clear, official guidance on a complex situation without weeks of frustration. The information I received was actually different from what I'd read in some professional tax journals, which would have led me to handle the amendments incorrectly. Definitely worth it for complex situations like these ERC amendments.

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Ezra Collins

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22 Just wanted to add some additional context on the ERC amendments that might help. When you file the amended 1120-S, make sure you're properly reducing the wage expense by the amount of the credit received. This flows through to the K-1s and ultimately impacts the shareholder's QBI deduction on their personal return. Also, if your client claimed both the PPP and the ERC, double check that there's no overlap in the wages used for each program. I've seen the IRS flag returns specifically for this issue, and they're being particularly vigilant about ERC claims in general given the amount of fraud they've seen. One last tip - include a detailed reconciliation worksheet showing the original wage expense, the ERC amount, and the corrected wage expense. This level of documentation can help prevent additional questions from the IRS.

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Ezra Collins

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16 How do you handle the QBI recalculation on the shareholders' personal returns? Do you have to go back and recalculate QBI for each quarter or just for the year as a whole?

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Ezra Collins

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22 You only need to recalculate the QBI for the year as a whole. The reduction in wage expense affects the overall QBI calculation, but you don't need to break it down quarterly. The amended Schedule K-1 will show the revised ordinary business income, and that flows to the shareholder's Form 8995 or 8995-A on their personal return. Just make sure you're accounting for any limitation thresholds that might be affected by the change in qualified business income. In some cases, the reduced wage expense could push a shareholder below the W-2 wage limitation threshold for QBI, which would further reduce their deduction.

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Ezra Collins

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2 Has anyone dealt with the state tax implications of late ERC amendments? My client's in New York, and I know they generally conform to federal filing deadlines for amendments, but I'm not sure if they have a similar exception for the ERC situation.

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Ezra Collins

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17 New York generally follows the federal rules, but they have their own 3-year amendment statute. I'd recommend filing the state amendment at the same time as the federal and including a similar explanation about the ERC refund being recently received. In my experience, if the IRS accepts the late amendment due to the 60-day rule, the state will generally follow suit.

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Mary Bates

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This is a really helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my client received their 2020 ERC refund just last month. The 60-day rule explanation makes so much sense - I had no idea there was a specific exception for ERC situations that overrides the normal 3-year amendment deadline. One question I have is about the documentation requirements. When you say to include "any IRS notices related to the ERC claim approval," are you referring to specific forms or just the general correspondence about the refund being processed? My client received several different pieces of mail from the IRS throughout the ERC process, so I want to make sure I'm including the right documents. Also, for the statement explaining the timeline of events, is there a specific format the IRS prefers, or just a simple narrative explaining when the ERC was filed, when the refund was received, and that we're filing within 60 days of receipt? Thanks for sharing your experiences - it's really reassuring to know this situation can be resolved properly!

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Sasha Reese

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Great questions! For the IRS notices, you'll want to include the specific notice that shows the ERC refund amount and approval date - this is usually Form 6475 or a similar refund notice. Don't worry about including every piece of correspondence, just the key documents that establish when and how much was refunded. For the timeline statement, keep it simple but comprehensive. I usually write something like: "Taxpayer filed ERC claim for 2020 on [date], received refund of $X on [date], and is filing this amended return within 60 days of refund receipt as permitted under the correlative adjustment rules." No special format required - just make it clear and attach it to the front of your amendment package. The IRS has been very accommodating with these ERC-related late amendments since they know their processing delays caused the timing issues. As long as you document everything clearly and file within that 60-day window, you should be in good shape!

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now with three different clients who just received their 2020 ERC refunds! It's such a relief to see this thread confirming the 60-day rule - I was really panicking about being outside the normal amendment window. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else in this boat: make sure you're also considering the impact on any state credits or deductions that were based on the original wage amounts. In my state (Illinois), we have some workforce development credits that are calculated based on wages paid, so the reduced wage expense from the ERC could affect those calculations too. Also, I've found it helpful to prepare a simple timeline document for each client showing: original return filed date, ERC claim filed date, ERC refund received date, and amendment filing date. This makes it crystal clear to the IRS that we're within the proper timeframe and helps support the correlative adjustment argument. Has anyone encountered situations where the client received partial ERC refunds over multiple dates? I have one client who got their 2020 ERC in two separate payments about a month apart, and I'm wondering if the 60-day clock starts from the first payment or if each payment gets its own 60-day window.

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Kayla Morgan

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Great point about state credits! I hadn't considered the ripple effects beyond just the federal wage deduction adjustment. Regarding your question about partial ERC refunds - from my understanding, each payment should trigger its own 60-day window. So if your client received the first payment on January 15th and the second on February 15th, you'd have until March 16th to file amendments covering the first payment, and until April 16th for the second payment. However, for simplicity, I'd recommend filing one comprehensive amendment within 60 days of the final payment and clearly documenting both payment dates in your explanation letter. This way you're definitely within the safe harbor period for both payments and avoid any confusion about which payment triggered which amendment deadline. The timeline document you mentioned is a great idea - I'm going to start using that approach with my ERC clients too!

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Diego Flores

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently facing this same nightmare scenario with two of my S-corp clients who just received their 2020 ERC refunds - one for $28k and another for $51k. I've been losing sleep over this thinking we were completely out of luck with the 3-year amendment deadline having passed. The 60-day correlative adjustment rule is news to me, and honestly a huge relief. I'm definitely going to file the amended 1120-S and corresponding 1040-X returns ASAP. One additional consideration I wanted to mention - make sure to check if your client has any outstanding installment agreements or payment plans with the IRS. I had a situation last year where filing an amended return that increased tax liability affected an existing payment plan, and we had to contact the IRS to modify the agreement terms. Also, for anyone dealing with this, I'd recommend calculating the additional tax liability before filing so your client isn't surprised. The reduction in wage deduction flows through as additional taxable income on the K-1, which could push them into higher tax brackets or affect other deductions. Better to prepare them for the tax impact upfront than have an unhappy client later! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is such a lifesaver for situations like these!

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