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Harper Hill

Employee Retention Tax Credit (ERTC) - Can I file this for my family business myself?

I recently started helping with my family's small restaurant and discovered they might qualify for the Employee Retention Tax Credit. They've been using the same accountant for like 15+ years, but honestly, he seems pretty checked out. When COVID hit, I stepped in to handle their PPP loan, EIDL, and other relief programs because the accountant literally said "I don't know how to do that" when we asked. Their business definitely meets the ERTC criteria - they have 2 employees on W-2, and they experienced the required revenue reduction. They already filed their 941s for 2020 and Q1-Q2 of 2021, but they're on extension for their annual taxes. The PPP and other assistance they got doesn't interfere with claiming ERTC on wages. What I'm wondering is: 1. Can I file the amended 941-X forms myself if their accountant refuses? 2. How likely is this to trigger an audit? 3. Is this process too complicated for someone who isn't a tax professional? 4. What adjustments would I need to make to the already-filed forms? 5. How will claiming the ERTC affect their annual tax filing? Do I need to reduce the wage expense deduction? Thanks for any guidance! I want to help them get the credit they deserve but don't want to cause problems.

Caden Nguyen

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You definitely can file this yourself! The ERTC is a valuable credit that many small businesses qualify for but haven't claimed. Since your parents are still on extension for their annual filing, this is actually good timing. To amend previously filed 941s, you'll need to complete Form 941-X for each quarter you're claiming the credit. Each form will need to show the original wages reported and the qualified wages eligible for the credit. The math isn't terribly complex, but attention to detail is important. Regarding audit risk - claiming a legitimate ERTC won't necessarily trigger an audit. However, the IRS has increased scrutiny on these claims due to some abuse. As long as you maintain thorough documentation showing how your parents' business qualified (either through revenue reduction or full/partial suspension of operations), you should be fine. For the annual tax filing, yes, there will be an impact. The credit amount is considered a reduction in wage expenses. So if your parents deducted $50,000 in wages on their income tax return but received a $10,000 ERTC, they'll need to reduce their wage deduction to $40,000. This is to prevent "double-dipping" on the tax benefit.

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Avery Flores

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Thanks for the helpful info! Do you know if there's a deadline for filing these amended 941-X forms? Also, what kind of documentation would you recommend keeping in case of an audit?

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Caden Nguyen

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The statute of limitations for filing Form 941-X to claim ERTC is generally 3 years from the date you filed the original return. So for 2020 quarters, you should be fine filing now. For documentation, I recommend keeping several types of records: financial statements showing the revenue decline (if qualifying that way), any government orders that caused full or partial suspension of operations, payroll records identifying qualified wages for each employee, documentation of any PPP loan amounts to ensure no "double dipping" on the same wages, and copies of all filed 941-X forms. Also keep detailed notes about how you calculated the credit amount for each quarter.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Ashley Adams

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Did you have any issues with the IRS after filing? I heard they're scrutinizing these claims pretty heavily now.

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How much did the service cost? Was it worth it compared to having an accountant do it? Our guy wants $3,000 just to look at our eligibility which seems steep.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai from the recommendation above. It was exactly what I needed! My parents' deli clearly qualified (our revenue dropped 41% in Q2 2020), but our accountant kept saying it was "too complicated" to file for. The system confirmed we were eligible for Q2-Q4 2020 and Q1 2021, then walked me through exactly which wages qualified and which were excluded because of our PPP loan. It even flagged that our owner-operators (my parents) weren't eligible for the credit since they're related to the owners (themselves). The most helpful part was the documentation package it created - all the calculations were shown step by step, which I printed out and added to our tax records. This will be super helpful if we ever get questioned. We just submitted the amended 941-X forms last month, and now we're waiting for processing.

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Aaron Lee

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Anyone else having trouble actually reaching the IRS to ask questions about their ERTC claim? I filed mine 5 months ago and haven't heard anything. I've tried calling at least 20 times and can never get through to a human being. This is so frustrating! I finally found this service called https://claimyr.com that gets you through the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. I was super skeptical at first (seemed too good to be true), but it actually worked! After months of trying, I finally got to speak with someone about my claim status. Turns out they had questions about my documentation but couldn't reach me (somehow they had an old phone number). The agent I spoke with was able to update my contact info and told me what additional forms they needed. Now my claim is moving forward again instead of sitting in limbo.

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Wait, how does this actually work? Does it just autodial for you or something? I've been trying to reach someone about my amended returns for weeks!

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Michael Adams

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Sounds totally scammy. No way this actually works - the IRS is deliberately understaffed so people can't get through. I'll stick with waiting 7 hours on hold like everyone else.

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Aaron Lee

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It's not auto-dialing - that wouldn't really help with the IRS since the main issue is waiting on hold for hours. What it does is navigate the phone tree for you and then holds your place in line. They call you back when they've reached a live person. It absolutely works. I was skeptical too but after 5 months of trying to get through on my own, I was desperate. The IRS agent I spoke with told me my claim had been sitting in a queue waiting for additional documentation that they had tried to request but couldn't reach me. After our call, my claim started moving again and the agent gave me direct instructions on what to submit.

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Michael Adams

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Ok I need to eat my words from my skeptical comment above. After another frustrating week of failing to reach the IRS about my ERTC claim (submitted 6 months ago), I broke down and tried the Claimyr service. IT ACTUALLY WORKS. Within 45 minutes of signing up, I got a call connecting me to an IRS agent who pulled up my file immediately. Turns out my claim was selected for review, and they'd been trying to reach me at my old business number that we disconnected last year. The agent helped update my contact info and explained exactly what they needed from me to process the claim. The most valuable part was being able to ask specific questions about my situation and get clear answers instead of guessing. The agent even gave me a direct fax number to send the additional documentation and told me what to write on the cover sheet to make sure it got to the right department. I honestly can't believe how much stress this saved me. My ERTC claim is for over $40,000, so resolving this quickly is huge for our cash flow.

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Natalie Wang

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - be careful with timing on this. The IRS recently announced they're implementing a moratorium on processing new ERTC claims starting September 14, 2023, due to concerns about fraud. They're going to be more closely scrutinizing claims going forward. This doesn't mean legitimate claims won't be processed, but there may be additional delays and verification steps. If your parents clearly qualify (and it sounds like they do), you should still proceed, but just be prepared for potentially longer processing times.

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Harper Hill

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Thanks for that info - I hadn't heard about the moratorium! Do you know if that affects claims that have already been submitted or just new ones going forward?

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Natalie Wang

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The moratorium primarily affects new claims submitted after September 14, 2023. Claims already in the system before that date should continue to be processed, though possibly with additional scrutiny. The IRS has also stated they're prioritizing processing the backlog of previously submitted claims, so in some ways, if you already have a claim in the system, this might actually be good news as they focus resources on clearing existing claims before accepting new ones. If you haven't submitted yet, I'd recommend getting your documentation very thoroughly organized before filing.

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Noah Torres

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Just a word of warning about doing this yourself - I tried to DIY my ERTC claim for my small shop and accidentally claimed some wages that had been covered by PPP forgiveness. Ended up having to refile and it created a huge mess. If you do this yourself, be SUPER careful about tracking which wages were paid with PPP funds vs which ones are eligible for ERTC.

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Samantha Hall

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What software did you use? I'm considering doing this myself but worried about making mistakes like this.

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