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Maya Patel

Can I submit a Form 8275 type disclosure statement with Form 941 for ERTC claims?

So I'm trying to figure out this whole Employee Retention Credit situation with all the confusing guidance out there. My business had some disruptions during the pandemic that I think qualify us for ERTC, but there's so much ambiguity in the rules. I want to file for the credit on Form 941, but I'm concerned about potential penalties if the IRS disagrees with my interpretation. On income tax forms, you can file Form 8275 to disclose positions that might be questionable but have reasonable basis, which helps avoid penalties even if the IRS ultimately disagrees. Does anyone know if there's an equivalent disclosure statement I can attach to Form 941 for ERTC claims? It seems weird that Form 8275 exists for income tax but not for payroll taxes. If the IRS guidance is this unclear, shouldn't there be a way to make a good faith claim while protecting yourself from penalties?

This is actually a really good question. The Form 8275 (Disclosure Statement) is specifically designed for income tax returns, not employment tax returns like the 941. You're right that there's no direct equivalent for payroll tax filings. However, you do have some options. You can include a statement with your Form 941 explaining your position on the ERTC claim. While not formally recognized like Form 8275, a well-documented statement that outlines your reasonable basis for the claim could help demonstrate good faith and potentially help avoid accuracy-related penalties. Make sure your statement clearly explains which quarter you're claiming for, how you meet the eligibility requirements (either the full/partial suspension test or the gross receipts reduction test), and include any supporting documentation that backs up your position. Be specific about which IRS guidance you're relying on.

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Thanks for the info. Would attaching the statement to a 941-X be better than with the original 941? And is there any specific format this statement should follow to make sure the IRS actually considers it?

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If you're filing an amended return via Form 941-X, then yes, attaching your disclosure statement to that form would be appropriate. The 941-X is specifically what you'd use if you're going back to claim the ERTC for past quarters. There's no official format required for this type of statement, but I recommend creating a clear, professional document that specifically references "Disclosure Statement" in the header. Include your business information, the specific quarters involved, and a detailed explanation of your position including citations to relevant IRS notices or guidance. The more thoroughly you document your reasonable basis, the better protection you'll have.

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Ava Kim

I used taxr.ai for a similar situation with ERTC documentation and it was incredibly helpful. I was in the same boat - had a reasonable claim but was nervous about potential penalties with all the confusing guidance. I uploaded my financial records and business documentation to https://taxr.ai and their system analyzed my eligibility and documentation strength. It gave me a detailed report showing where my claim was strong and where I needed more supporting evidence. The report also helped me draft a proper disclosure statement to attach to my 941-X that outlined my reasonable basis. The peace of mind was worth it because the system flagged some issues in my initial interpretation that could have been problematic during an audit.

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How long did the analysis take? I need to file this week and wondering if it's something I could still use or if it takes days to get results?

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Did it actually help you avoid penalties though? Has your amended return been processed yet or are you still waiting to see if the IRS accepts your position?

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Ava Kim

The analysis was pretty quick - I got initial results within a couple hours after uploading my documents. If you're on a tight timeline, you should still be able to use it before filing this week. No penalties so far! My amended return was processed about 3 months ago. I can't say for certain the disclosure statement was the reason, but my ERTC claim was approved without any correspondence from the IRS questioning my position. The documentation approach they recommended seemed to satisfy whatever review process the IRS used.

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Just wanted to follow up and say I ended up using taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here. I was initially skeptical because my situation was complicated - we had partial suspensions due to capacity restrictions but were still operating in some capacity. The analysis was really thorough and showed me exactly which quarters qualified under the suspension test vs. the gross receipts test. It identified several documentation gaps I hadn't considered and gave me specific suggestions for strengthening my claim. The disclosure statement template it generated was incredibly detailed and cited all the relevant IRS notices that supported my position. Just got confirmation last week that my 941-X was processed without any issues. Definitely recommend if you're in a similar situation with ERTC ambiguity.

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How does this actually work though? Don't they need your personal info to talk to the IRS? Seems sketchy to give all that to some random service.

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This sounds like a paid ad. No way the IRS would actually give useful guidance on something like this over the phone. They always just recite generic policy or tell you to consult a tax professional.

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They don't need your personal info - they just secure your place in the phone queue and call you when they reach an agent. You do the actual talking with the IRS representative yourself, so no sensitive information is shared with the service. I understand the skepticism - I was surprised too. But the IRS representative I spoke with was surprisingly helpful on this specific topic. They confirmed there's no official form like 8275 for payroll taxes but explained that they do consider reasonable basis disclosures attached to 941-X forms when evaluating potential penalty assessments. They even suggested documenting which specific IRS notices I was relying on for my interpretation. Not all agents are equally knowledgeable, but getting to speak with someone directly was definitely worth it.

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I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had my own ERTC questions that needed answers. Got through to an IRS business tax specialist in about 30 minutes (which is INSANE compared to my previous attempts). The agent confirmed everything about disclosure statements with Form 941-X and even gave me the specific fax number for their ERTC documentation review team, which I couldn't find published anywhere online. The agent told me they're seeing lots of disclosure statements with ERTC claims given the ambiguity in the guidance, and they actually appreciate when taxpayers document their reasoning clearly rather than just submitting claims without explanation. Apparently, they're more likely to reach out for clarification rather than just denying claims outright when you provide a detailed disclosure.

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Have you considered just using a tax professional who specializes in ERTC claims? DIY approach with disclosure statements is risky with how aggressively the IRS is auditing these credits lately. My company worked with a specialized CPA firm that handled everything, including creating a comprehensive reasonable basis document. They included case-specific citations for our industry and documentation of exactly how our business met the criteria. Cost us about $3,500 but they helped us claim nearly $180K in credits correctly, so well worth the fee.

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What firm did you use? I've been hesitant about some of these ERTC specialist companies because there seem to be so many pop-up firms just chasing these claims and I'm worried about getting aggressive advice that could cause problems later.

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I used a regional accounting firm in our area that already handled our regular tax work, not one of the ERTC mills that appeared overnight. That's exactly why I suggested finding a professional - too many firms are pushing aggressive positions without considering the documentation needed to support them. If you already have a CPA or tax preparer, ask if they have ERTC experience or can refer you to someone reputable. The best protection is having a tax professional who will stand behind their work and be there if questions come up later. The firms that properly document reasonable basis positions are worth their weight in gold right now with all the ERTC scrutiny.

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Just an FYI for everyone in this thread - the IRS announced increased scrutiny of ERTC claims last month. They're specifically looking at claims that don't have strong documentation of eligibility. So definitely document everything thoroughly whether you use Form 8275-type disclosures or not. The moratorium on processing new claims was lifted, but they're applying extra review steps. My accountant said claims with detailed supporting documentation are moving through faster than those without.

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Yeah my claim from October is still "processing" even though the IRS cashed the check for the quarter I had to pay additional tax on. Feels like they're just sitting on these claims hoping people forget about them.

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