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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you're trading options in an IRA, you don't have to worry about any of this tax reporting! All my buy to open, sell to close trades happen in my Roth and I never pay taxes on the gains. Just something to consider if the tax headache is too much.
Doesn't the IRA limit what kind of options strategies you can use though? I thought you couldn't sell naked calls or do certain spreads.
You're absolutely right about the limitations. In an IRA, you generally can't sell naked calls or puts because they have undefined risk and require margin. Most brokers only allow covered calls, cash-secured puts, and certain defined-risk strategies like vertical spreads. The exact permissions depend on your broker and your approved option level within the IRA. Fidelity, for example, is pretty conservative and might restrict you to just covered calls, while some others allow vertical spreads if you have enough experience and account value.
Has anyone here actually gotten audited because of options trading? I'm doing similar stuff (buy to open / sell to close) but sometimes I do like 20-30 trades a week. I'm worried that's gonna trigger something with the IRS.
Here's a simple approach I use: Just calculate 4 different versions of your weekly pay in your spreadsheet: 1. Base 40 hours (lowest withholding %) 2. Moderate OT (medium withholding %) 3. Heavy OT (highest withholding %) 4. An average based on your typical pattern Then depending on what your week looks like, you can quickly reference the appropriate scenario. Not perfect but way easier than trying to build a complex formula.
That's not a bad approach for quick budgeting! Do you have any tips for how to determine the withholding percentages for each scenario? Are you just using the actual percentages from past paychecks?
I just look at my past paystubs and calculate the actual withholding percentage for each category. So I'll find a few examples of 40-hour weeks, average the withholding percentage, and use that. Same for the other scenarios. It's not perfect, but it gets me close enough for budgeting. The key is to categorize your past paychecks based on hours worked and then find the patterns. Over time, you'll see that the percentages are fairly consistent within each band of hours.
Have you tried the IRS Withholding Calculator? It's free and on the IRS website. You can run different scenarios with different weekly incomes to see how the withholding changes. I use it every January to make sure my withholding is on track.
The IRS calculator is good for annual planning but it's not great for weekly variations. It assumes consistent income throughout the year which is exactly what OP doesn't have.
For what it's worth, I've been in tax for 20+ years and consistently use 7 years for restaurant POS systems. The language in Rev. Proc. 87-56 is pretty clear if you look at Asset Class 57.0. Also, consider that franchise agreements typically last 10-20 years, and the POS systems are usually required by the franchisor as part of the agreement. The systems are designed to last substantially longer than general computer equipment.
Thanks for your insight! That's a really good point about the franchise agreement duration and the fact that the franchisor requires specific POS systems. In your experience, do fast food franchisors typically require POS system replacements or major upgrades during the franchise term? Or do they generally last the distance?
In my experience, most fast food franchisors require major POS upgrades every 5-7 years, but not complete replacements. The hardware components might get swapped out, but that's often handled as repair and maintenance rather than a new capital expenditure. Franchisors are primarily concerned with system uniformity across all locations. They want consistent reporting, menu management, and customer experience. So even if the technology could physically last longer, franchise requirements often dictate the practical useful life.
Has anyone dealt with POS systems that have integrated payment processing hardware? Our client has those Square-type systems that combine traditional POS functions with the credit card reader. Would those components potentially be treated differently?
In my experience, even with integrated payment processing, the entire unit is still treated as a single asset under the 7-year class life. The IRS generally doesn't want us breaking down assets into components unless they're truly separate and distinct assets.
What nobody tells you about TurboTax is that they offer a completely free version that they hide from most people. Look up "TurboTax Free File" which is different from "TurboTax Free Edition". The Free File version handles most tax situations including unemployment, student loan interest, etc., as long as you make under $73,000. They deliberately make it hard to find because they want to upsell you to paid versions. I've been using the actual free version for years with no issues. Just Google "IRS Free File TurboTax" to find the real free version instead of going through their main website.
Wait seriously? I had no idea there was a difference between "Free Edition" and "Free File". Is the interface the same? Does it still have all the helpful guidance?
The interface is nearly identical. It has all the same guidance and error checking features as the paid versions. The main difference is they don't try to upsell you throughout the process. It does have some income limitations (you need to make under $73,000), but it handles much more complex situations than their "Free Edition" which constantly forces upgrades for basic things like student loan interest or unemployment income. Just make sure you access it through the IRS Free File page rather than TurboTax's main site.
Has anyone tried H&R Block's software? I'm trying to decide between that and TurboTax this year. Used TurboTax last year but wasn't super impressed with their customer service when I had questions.
I've used both. H&R Block's interface isn't quite as slick as TurboTax, but their prices are usually a bit lower. Their free version also covers more forms than TurboTax's free edition. Customer service was better in my experience - shorter wait times to chat with someone.
Daniel Price
My sister dealt with this same situation. If the IRS already sent your refund including the child tax credit/EIC, there's a good chance they sided with you initially. The system automatically checks for duplicate SSNs being claimed, so they probably processed your claim first. BUT... the other person might still be going through review. If they submitted after you and included documentation, the IRS might still be reviewing their claim. In that case, you could still get a letter in the future. Keep EVERYTHING that proves you supported the child financially and that they lived with you. Calendar showing overnight stays, medical receipts, daycare payments, anything with dates on it. Don't throw away any of that until at least 3 years have passed.
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Olivia Evans
ā¢Doesn't the tiebreaker rule mean that if two people can claim a child, the person with the higher AGI gets the claim? Or is that only when both people are equally eligible?
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Daniel Price
ā¢The tiebreaker rules only come into play when BOTH people are eligible to claim the dependent under all the qualifying child or qualifying relative tests. They're essentially the "last resort" when two people legitimately could claim the same dependent. In most disputes like this, the IRS determines only one person actually qualifies under the support and residency tests. If the child lived with the grandparent for more than half the year and the grandparent provided more than half the support, then the tiebreaker rules won't even be needed - the other person simply doesn't qualify regardless of their AGI.
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Sophia Bennett
watch out they might still audit u later. happened to my cousin last year. got the refund with dependent then 4 months later got a letter saying they were auditing. make sure u have proof of EVERYTHING. did u save receipts from when u bought stuff for the baby? need proof for: - medical expenses - food/formula - diapers - clothes - toys - percent of rent/utilities also need proof baby lived with u like mail addressed to baby at ur house, doctor records, anything with the address
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Aiden Chen
ā¢You don't need proof for all that. IRS Publication 501 clearly states that for the support test, you only need to show you provided MORE than half of the child's total support for the year. You don't need to document every single expense.
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Sophia Bennett
ā¢ur right but in an audit they ask for everything. my cousin had to make a spreadsheet showing all expenses for the kid and who paid what. better to have too much proof than not enough! in a normal year ya don't need all that but when someone else also claimed the same kid its different. they check everything super carefully.
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