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US Non Resident Alien Capital Gains Tax - Does Property Sale Get Same Exemption as Securities?

I've been researching US tax laws for Non Resident Aliens (NRA) since I'm planning to move back to my home country next year. From what I've gathered, NRAs don't need to pay capital gains taxes on security sales like stocks, ETFs, and 401k withdrawals. But I'm confused about whether this exemption extends to property sales as well? I own both my primary residence here in Boston (purchased 5 years ago) and a small rental property in Arizona that I bought as an investment in 2022. If I sell these properties after moving back, would I still qualify for the NRA capital gains exemption? Also, regarding the substantial presence test - if I understand correctly, to maintain NRA status, I need to be present in the US for less than 31 days during the current tax year, even if I would otherwise meet the 183-day requirement from the formula that looks at the past 3 years. Is this understanding correct? I'm trying to plan my exit strategy carefully to avoid unexpected tax bills. Any guidance would be appreciated!

Kolton Murphy

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The rules for Non-Resident Aliens (NRAs) are a bit complex, but I can help clarify. You're right about securities - generally, NRAs don't pay US capital gains tax on the sale of stocks, bonds, and similar investments (with some exceptions for US real property interests). However, real estate is treated differently. The US taxes NRAs on the sale of US real property interests under the Foreign Investment in Real Property Tax Act (FIRPTA). This means both your Boston residence and Arizona rental would likely be subject to capital gains tax even after you leave the US. For the substantial presence test, you're on the right track. If you meet the 183-day formula (which counts days over 3 years), you'd typically be considered a resident alien. However, you can indeed maintain NRA status if you're present fewer than 31 days in the current year AND you have a tax home in another country where you have closer connections than to the US. You might also want to check if there's a tax treaty between the US and your home country that could provide additional benefits or exceptions.

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Evelyn Rivera

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Thanks for the clarification! So if I'm understanding right, FIRPTA means I'll have to pay capital gains on property no matter what? Does the typical capital gains exclusion for primary residences ($250k for singles/$500k for couples) apply to NRAs too? Or is there a blanket withholding rate?

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Kolton Murphy

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Great question! Yes, NRAs can still claim the primary residence exclusion ($250,000 for individuals, $500,000 for couples filing jointly) if they meet the ownership and use tests - generally having owned and used the property as your main home for at least 2 of the last 5 years before the sale. For the withholding process, FIRPTA generally requires buyers to withhold 15% of the gross sales price (not just the gain) when purchasing property from an NRA. However, you can file for a withholding certificate with the IRS to reduce this amount if the actual tax liability would be less. Then when you file your tax return, you'll calculate the actual gain and either get a refund or pay additional tax.

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Julia Hall

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I was in a similar situation last year and ended up using https://taxr.ai to figure out my NRA tax situation. I was moving back to Singapore and had investments plus a condo in California I needed to sell. The tool analyzed my specific scenario with the properties and my residence timeline, then showed me exactly what documentation I needed for FIRPTA compliance. It also helped me understand how the 183-day rule would apply in my specific case with my travel history. What I found most helpful was their document review feature that checked my withholding certificate application before I submitted it to the IRS to reduce my initial withholding amount. Saved me from having too much money tied up while waiting for a refund.

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Arjun Patel

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Did they help with actual tax filing as an NRA or just the planning part? I'm heading back to Australia next year and trying to figure out if I need specialized software for my NRA return or if I can still use regular tax software.

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Jade Lopez

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How does taxr.ai handle tax treaty situations? I'm Canadian and I know there are special provisions in the US-Canada tax treaty, but I've found conflicting information online about how they apply to property sales.

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Julia Hall

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They helped with both the planning and the actual filing requirements. They have specific guidance for NRA returns which was super helpful since most regular tax software isn't designed for non-resident scenarios. For tax treaties, they actually specialize in this area. They analyzed the US-Canada treaty when I asked about a friend's situation. Their system flags the specific articles in each treaty that apply to your situation, which is much more reliable than general advice online. For property sales specifically, they showed which treaty provisions might provide relief and which ones wouldn't impact FIRPTA rules.

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Arjun Patel

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Wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after seeing it recommended here. I tried it for my Australia-US situation and it was genuinely helpful. I was confused about my specific NRA status since I had partial year residency, and the tool created a day-counting calendar that showed exactly when my status would change. It also identified a specific provision in the US-Australia tax treaty that I qualified for that my regular accountant had missed. The property sale guidance was spot-on too. They provided templates for the withholding certificate application that saved me about $23,000 in upfront withholding on my property sale. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with cross-border property sales as an NRA.

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Tony Brooks

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I see you're planning your exit strategy - that's smart! When I was trying to sell my property as an NRA, calling the IRS for guidance was IMPOSSIBLE. Spent weeks trying to get through to someone who could answer specific questions about my FIRPTA withholding certificate. Finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual IRS agent. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They got me connected to the specific IRS department that handles FIRPTA issues within about 15 minutes when I'd been trying for weeks. The agent was able to confirm exactly what documentation I needed for my withholding certificate and even told me about a specific form I was missing that would have caused a rejection. When you're dealing with NRA status and property sales, having direct access to the right IRS department makes all the difference.

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How does this actually work? Do they just repeatedly call the IRS for you or something? I've been trying to reach someone about my NRA status for over a month.

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Yara Campbell

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Sorry but this sounds like BS. Nobody can get through to the IRS these days. I've tried calling dozens of times about my NRA status after moving from the US back to Germany. Are you saying they have some special hotline or something?

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Tony Brooks

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They use an automated system that continually redials and navigates the IRS phone tree until it gets through to a representative. It basically does what you'd do manually but can keep trying for hours if needed. No special hotline - they just use technology to handle the most frustrating part (waiting and redialing). Once they get through, they call you and connect you directly to the IRS agent. I was skeptical too until I tried it. The key advantage is they know which options to select in the phone system to get to specialized departments like the ones that handle FIRPTA and international tax issues.

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Yara Campbell

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I need to apologize about my skeptical comment earlier. After struggling for another week trying to reach the IRS about my NRA status and FIRPTA withholding, I tried the Claimyr service. I was connected to an IRS international tax specialist in about 40 minutes, which was shocking after weeks of failed attempts. The agent clarified that my situation (German citizen who lived in US for 6 years) required a special form with my FIRPTA withholding certificate application because of specific provisions in the US-Germany tax treaty. This saved me from a major headache - apparently without this form, they would have automatically withheld the full 15% on my $670,000 property sale, which would have tied up over $100,000 until I filed my final return. Instead, I'm able to apply for a reduced withholding amount based on my actual expected gain. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong!

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Isaac Wright

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Just a quick warning about FIRPTA that bit me last year - even if you qualify for reduced withholding, make sure your buyer and their title company understand the process. My buyer's settlement agent had never handled an NRA seller before and almost caused a major delay at closing. Have all your documentation ready well in advance: 1. ITIN or SSN documentation 2. Withholding certificate if you're applying for one 3. Previous tax returns showing your NRA status Better to be over-prepared than scrambling at the last minute!

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Maya Diaz

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Did you find that title companies were hesitant to handle NRA sellers? I'm wondering if I should warn my real estate agent about this when I list my property.

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Isaac Wright

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Some title companies are definitely more comfortable with it than others. I'd recommend asking your agent to find a title company that regularly handles international transactions. The one I eventually used had a dedicated "FIRPTA specialist" who knew exactly what forms were needed. Also, make sure your agent mentions your NRA status to potential buyers upfront - some buyers get nervous when they learn they have extra withholding responsibilities and it can affect negotiations if they find out late in the process.

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Tami Morgan

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Don't forget about state taxes! Even if you understand the federal NRA rules, many states have their own withholding requirements for non-residents selling property. California was brutal with a mandatory 12.3% withholding on top of the federal FIRPTA withholding when I sold my San Diego property. Arizona has their own withholding for non-residents too, I think it's around 2-4% depending on the sale price. Massachusetts might have something similar for your Boston property.

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Oh no, I hadn't even considered state-level withholding! Do you know if these state withholdings work the same way as the federal one where you can apply for a reduced amount based on actual expected gain?

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Tami Morgan

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Yes, most states do allow you to apply for reduced withholding similar to the federal process, but with separate forms. For Arizona specifically, you'd use the Arizona Form 301 for exemption or reduced withholding. Massachusetts has Form M-8288-B for nonresident real estate withholding applications. The process is similar to the federal one, but the thresholds and requirements are different, so don't assume qualifying for federal reduction means you'll automatically qualify for state reduction. Make sure to research both states' requirements early - their processing times can sometimes be longer than the federal withholding certificate application.

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Natalie Wang

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation - moving back to the UK next year and have been stressing about the tax implications of selling my Denver condo. One thing I wanted to add that might help others: if you're planning to maintain any US ties (like keeping US bank accounts or investment accounts), make sure you understand how that might affect your NRA status determination. I learned from my tax advisor that the IRS looks at the totality of your connections to determine tax residency, not just the day count. Also, regarding the substantial presence test - don't forget that days when you're in the US for medical treatment or as a student can be excluded from the count in certain situations. There are some nuances that might help if you're borderline on the 31-day/183-day thresholds. The state withholding point is crucial too. Colorado has its own withholding requirements, and I discovered that some states don't have reciprocal agreements with certain countries' tax treaties, so you might get federal relief but still face state-level complications. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is invaluable for navigating these complex situations!

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Carmen Diaz

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Great point about maintaining US ties affecting NRA status! I hadn't considered how keeping US bank accounts might complicate things. Do you know if there are specific thresholds for what constitutes "substantial ties"? I'm also curious about the medical treatment exclusion you mentioned - is that automatic or do you need to file specific documentation with the IRS to claim those days don't count toward the substantial presence test? The state-level complications sound like a nightmare to navigate. Did your tax advisor give you any tips on how to research which states have reciprocal agreements with specific countries' tax treaties?

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