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Luca Romano

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OP, make sure you're aware that even with an extension, if you owe estimated taxes for 2025 (like if you're self-employed or have investment income without withholding), your first quarterly payment is STILL due April 15th. The extension doesn't change that deadline at all. I learned this the hard way and got hit with penalties.

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Wait really?? I do have some freelance income on the side of my regular job. So you're saying even though I'm extending my 2024 tax return, I still need to make my first quarterly payment for 2025 by April 18th? How do I even figure that out when I haven't completed last year's taxes yet??

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Luca Romano

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Yes, that's exactly right. The extension only applies to your 2024 return, not to your 2025 estimated payments. It's super confusing and trips up a lot of people. For figuring out your 2025 quarterly payment, you can use last year's income as a basis (the safe harbor rule). If you pay 100% of what you owed last year (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), spread across your quarterly payments, you'll avoid penalties even if you end up owing more. You can always adjust later payments up or down as you get a better picture of your 2025 income.

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Nia Jackson

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Just want to add that if you're expecting a refund, you don't actually NEED to file an extension or worry about the April 18 deadline. The penalty for filing late only applies if you owe money. If the IRS owes YOU money, there's no penalty for filing late (though you won't get your refund until you file).

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NebulaNova

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This is technically true but still not a great idea. If you don't file or extend and then discover you actually DID owe money (like if you made a calculation error), you'll get hit with both failure-to-file AND failure-to-pay penalties, which add up fast. Plus, the statute of limitations for the IRS to audit you doesn't start until you file.

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned - even though you're right about the residency requirement, you might want to check your custody agreement if you have one. Sometimes there's specific language about who gets to claim the child for tax purposes regardless of the living situation. If your agreement says he gets to claim the child in certain years, that would override the residency rules.

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Emma Wilson

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We don't actually have a formal custody agreement filed with the court. Everything has been verbal between us so far. I've been trying to avoid court involvement, but maybe I need to get something official in place?

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Without a formal custody agreement, the IRS residency rules definitely apply. This means you, as the custodial parent with the child living with you most of the year, have the right to claim him. I would strongly recommend getting a formal custody agreement in place. This protects both you and your child by clearly defining visitation schedules, decision-making authority, and yes, tax claiming rights. Without documentation, these disputes can become "he said/she said" situations that often escalate unnecessarily. A formal agreement can specifically address who claims the child in which tax years, and can be structured in various ways (alternating years, splitting different tax benefits, etc.) if you choose to share this benefit.

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Sean Murphy

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Just a heads up - my sister went through something similar, and even though her ex wasn't on the birth certificate either, he established paternity through the courts later and got a formal custody agreement. After that, the judge actually did give him the right to claim their daughter on taxes in even-numbered years despite having less than 50% custody time. The birth certificate isn't as important as legal paternity and whatever custody order is in place. If he takes you to court for a formal custody arrangement (which he can do by establishing paternity first), tax issues could definitely be included in that discussion.

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StarStrider

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This is accurate. My cousin had this exact situation and the judge split the tax benefits - she got odd years and he got even years, even though the kid lived with her most of the time. Judges have a lot of discretion with this stuff.

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Form 5471 Filing Requirement Dispute with My CPA - Am I Actually Required to File?

I've been going back and forth with my CPA about whether I need to file Form 5471 for my foreign business interest. For the past 4 years, he's been charging me substantial fees (totaling around $22,000) largely because of the complicated Form 5471 preparation and the fear of that $10,000 penalty for incorrect filing. Last month, I had some downtime and decided to research Form 5471 requirements myself using my past returns as reference. After digging into the IRS guidelines, I'm starting to think I might not actually need to file this form at all, and my CPA has been unnecessarily billing me for years. Here's my situation: - I own exactly 50% of a foreign corporation - The other 50% is owned by one non-US person - The corporation is not owned by any US corporate entities - I haven't acquired or disposed of any shares since my initial purchase - I file US tax returns as a resident My CPA's reasoning: - I own more than 10% - I'm a US tax resident - It's a foreign corporation - Therefore Form 5471 is required But my research indicates: - The company isn't a Specified Foreign Corporation (SFC) or Controlled Foreign Corporation (CFC) since US persons don't own more than 50% - I'm not a Category 1 filer since it's neither an SFC nor CFC - Not a Category 2/3 filer as I haven't acquired or disposed of stock (though I did need to file the first year) - Not a Category 4 filer since I don't have control (only 50%, not >50%) - Not a Category 5 filer since the company isn't a CFC (US ownership isn't >50%) Am I interpreting the requirements correctly? Has my CPA been charging me thousands to file a form I don't actually need?

Don't overlook the possibility that your ownership situation might have changed over the years. I had a similar dispute with my accountant about Form 5471, and it turned out we were both partially right. In my case, there had been a corporate restructuring at the foreign company that slightly changed the ownership percentages, pushing US ownership temporarily over 50% for one tax year. So I did need to file for that year but not for others. Could there have been any changes to the corporate structure or ownership percentages that your CPA is aware of that might have triggered the filing requirement, even temporarily?

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Avery Saint

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That's an interesting point! I've owned exactly 50% since the beginning with no changes to the ownership structure. The only change in my situation was becoming a US tax resident 4 years ago (I filed the 5471 that first year as required when acquiring stock as a US person). After that, there have been zero changes to ownership percentages or corporate structure.

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Given there haven't been any ownership changes since your initial filing, your analysis looks even more solid. That initial filing when you became a US resident was correct (Category 3 for acquisition), but the ongoing yearly filings wouldn't be required if you don't meet any of the other categories. One more thing to consider - has the foreign corporation ever made any distributions or dividends to you during these years? Sometimes CPAs file Form 5471 if there are distributions because it provides a cleaner way to report them, even if technically not required. Might explain why they've been insistent on filing it.

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Jay Lincoln

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The issue might be confusion about the "control" test for Category 4 filers. Some CPAs mistakenly believe that exactly 50% ownership constitutes "control" for Form 5471 purposes, but the IRS definition typically requires MORE than 50% for control. Check Section 957(a) of the tax code - a foreign corp is a CFC if more than 50% of the vote OR value is owned by US shareholders. At exactly 50%, you're right at the edge but don't cross the threshold. Your CPA might be filing "protectively" to avoid potential penalties, but that's an expensive approach if it's not actually required. I'd get a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in international taxation, not just a general tax preparer.

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I work with international business structures and this is 100% correct. The control test for Category 4 requires MORE than 50% ownership, not exactly 50%. This is a common misconception among accountants who don't specialize in international taxation. That said, there's a specific rule for closely held companies where two 50% owners might both be considered to have "control" in certain circumstances. This usually applies when both owners are actively involved in management decisions. Is that the case with your foreign corporation? Do you and the other owner make joint decisions, or does one of you have more operational control?

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Dananyl Lear

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Here's an important thing to know about K-1s that nobody mentioned yet - they often arrive LATE! Like after April 15th late. If that happens, you'll need to file an extension (Form 4868). Your brother should be able to give you an estimate of the numbers so you can pay any estimated tax due with your extension request. I invest in several partnerships and literally never get my K-1s before April. It's annoying but normal.

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Does filing an extension because of a late K-1 increase your chances of being audited? I've always heard you should avoid extensions if possible.

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Dananyl Lear

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Filing an extension does not increase your audit risk at all. That's a common myth. In fact, tax professionals file extensions for many of their clients as standard practice. The key is making sure you pay any estimated tax due when you file the extension. Penalties are for not paying on time, not for filing the actual return later. As long as you make a good faith estimate of what you owe and pay that amount with your extension request, you're completely fine.

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Ana Rusula

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WARNING about K-1s - make sure the EIN on the form matches your brother's business! I got a K-1 last year that had a typo in the EIN and it caused my return to be rejected when I e-filed. The IRS computers couldn't match my reported K-1 info with what the business filed. Also check if your state requires you to attach a copy of the K-1 to your state return. Some states do require this while the federal return doesn't.

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Fidel Carson

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This is great advice! I had the same issue with a wrong EIN and it was a nightmare to fix. I'd also recommend comparing the K-1 you receive with any estimated K-1 info your brother might have given you during the year. If there are big differences, ask why before filing.

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Quick note about using PayPal specifically - they've lowered their reporting threshold to $600 as of last year. So even fairly small amounts of side income will trigger them to generate a 1099-K. Also, PayPal has been known to freeze accounts that they suspect are used for certain types of content sales. You might want to look into platform-specific payment options that cater to content creators as an alternative.

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Ev Luca

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That's really good to know about the account freezes! Do you know if other payment platforms like Venmo or Cash App have similar issues? Or would you recommend something completely different?

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Venmo is actually owned by PayPal so they have similar policies. Cash App can be more flexible but still has its limitations. Many content creators use platforms specifically designed for their industry that have built-in payment processing - these tend to be much more stable since they're designed for that purpose. Some also use multiple payment methods to diversify risk. Another option is to set up a proper business entity (like an LLC) and get a business bank account. This provides an additional layer of separation between your personal finances and business activities, and gives you more professional payment options. It costs a bit to set up but provides much better protection and legitimacy.

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Vince Eh

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I don't see anyone mentioning quarterly estimated taxes yet! This is super important. If you're making consistent money from self-employment (including selling content online), you need to make estimated tax payments throughout the year. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn, not just at the end of the year. If you wait until April to pay everything, you might get hit with underpayment penalties.

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Is there a minimum amount you need to earn before worrying about quarterly payments? I do some freelance work but it's pretty irregular and not a ton of money.

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