Need clarification on itemizing vs deducting business expenses for taxes - totally confused!
I've been trying to figure out my tax situation for my side business and I'm honestly super confused about the whole itemizing vs deducting business expenses thing. Like, what's actually the difference between deducting business expenses and itemizing business expenses? They sound the same to me but people talk about them like they're different processes. The part that's really throwing me off is - can you deduct your business expenses AND then also itemize those same expenses? That seems like double-dipping but I don't know enough to be sure. I've always just taken the standard deduction for my personal taxes because it seemed simpler, but now with this business stuff I'm not sure if I'm leaving money on the table. Anyone who can explain this in normal human terms would be my hero right now!
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Jasmine Hernandez
The confusion is totally understandable! Let me clarify - these are two separate concepts that sound similar but work differently: Business expenses are deducted on Schedule C if you're self-employed or have a side business. These reduce your business income before it hits your personal tax return. You can deduct these regardless of whether you take the standard deduction or itemize on your personal return. Itemizing refers to Schedule A, where you list personal deductions like mortgage interest, certain state taxes, charitable donations, etc. This is instead of taking the standard deduction on your personal return. The beauty is you can deduct all legitimate business expenses on Schedule C AND still take the standard deduction on your personal return - it's not double dipping! Most people with small businesses end up deducting business expenses and still taking the standard deduction because it's often higher than their potential itemized deductions.
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Axel Far
•Oh that makes so much more sense! So Schedule C is for business stuff and completely separate from the standard vs itemized decision on my personal return? So I could write off all my legitimate business expenses on Schedule C, lower my business profit, and still take the standard deduction for my personal situation?
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Jasmine Hernandez
•Exactly! Your business expenses on Schedule C reduce your business income, and that lower net business income then flows to your personal return. Then on your personal return, you still make the separate choice between standard or itemized deduction. Most taxpayers, even those with businesses, take the standard deduction these days since it's been increased to $13,850 for single filers and $27,700 for married filing jointly (for 2023). You'd need a lot of mortgage interest, state taxes, and charitable contributions to exceed that amount and make itemizing worthwhile.
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Luis Johnson
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Ellie Kim
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Luis Johnson
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Fiona Sand
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Mohammad Khaled
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Finnegan Gunn
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Finnegan Gunn
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Miguel Harvey
So just to add a bit more clarity since I'm a bookkeeper (not a CPA) - there's a common misconception about "itemizing business expenses." When we talk about "itemizing" in the tax world, it specifically means using Schedule A instead of taking the standard deduction. But for business expenses on Schedule C, you always list out (or "itemize" in the general sense of the word) your business expenses by category. That's probably where some confusion comes from. For 2023, unless your personal deductions (mortgage interest, state taxes up to $10k, medical expenses above 7.5% of AGI, charitable donations, etc.) exceed $13,850 (single) or $27,700 (married), the standard deduction is better for most people.
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Ashley Simian
•Does this apply if you have an LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship too? I keep my business and personal completely separate but file everything on my personal return.
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Miguel Harvey
•Yes, that's exactly right for an LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship. The "LLC" part is just a legal structure that doesn't change how you're taxed. You'll still report all business income and expenses on Schedule C of your personal return, and you can still take the standard deduction (or itemize if it's better) for your personal tax situation. The business structure doesn't change the fact that business expenses reduce your business income before it hits your personal return, and then you separately make the standard vs itemized choice on your personal situation.
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Oliver Cheng
Wait, I think I've been doing this wrong for years then... I've been skipping some business deductions because I thought I couldn't claim them unless I itemized! So you're saying even with standard deduction I can still write off all my business expenses on Sch C?
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Jasmine Hernandez
•Yes, you've been leaving money on the table unfortunately. You can (and should) deduct ALL legitimate business expenses on Schedule C regardless of whether you take the standard deduction or itemize on your personal return. They're completely separate decisions. You might want to look into filing amended returns for the past three years to claim those business expenses you missed. The IRS generally allows you to amend returns within three years of the original filing date.
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Ella Thompson
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I had the exact same confusion when I started my consulting business last year. The key insight that finally clicked for me is thinking of it as two completely separate "buckets": **Business Bucket (Schedule C):** All your legitimate business expenses go here - office supplies, equipment, travel, professional services, etc. This reduces your business profit before it even touches your personal tax situation. **Personal Bucket (Schedule A vs Standard):** This is where you decide between listing personal deductions like mortgage interest and charitable donations OR just taking the standard deduction. The magic is that these buckets don't interfere with each other at all! Your business expenses reduce your business income on Schedule C, and then that reduced net profit flows to your personal return where you make a completely separate choice about standard vs itemized deduction. I wish someone had explained it this simply when I was first starting out - would have saved me so much stress and confusion!
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