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Dylan Hughes

Can I use Section 179 for my new sole proprietorship if I'm below the standard deduction?

I recently started a small woodworking business as a sole proprietorship. I'm planning to hire a CPA since this tax stuff is honestly confusing me, but I wanted to wrap my head around some basics first. From what I understand, I can write off business expenses (like a sawmill and log splitter I'm considering buying) so they won't be taxed. But I'm confused about how these expenses are actually categorized on my taxes. Here's what I'm really wondering - if my total expenses don't exceed the $29,200 standard deduction, is there even any point in tracking and writing them off? Would I just be wasting my time? Also, are my business expenses completely separate from my W-2 income and tax filing? Do business expenses somehow count toward the standard deduction or are they totally different? And I'm really confused about Section 179 expenses. If I can already write off regular business expenses, why would I need to use Section 179 for capital purchases like equipment? What's the actual difference? Sorry if these are basic questions, but I want to understand the fundamentals before I talk to a professional.

The good news is you're asking these questions BEFORE tax time! Let me help clear things up: Your business expenses as a sole proprietor are reported on Schedule C, which is completely separate from your standard deduction. These are two different parts of your tax return that don't affect each other. When you have a sole proprietorship, you report all business income AND expenses on Schedule C. The profit (income minus expenses) flows to your personal tax return. Your standard deduction is applied to your overall income (including business profit) on your personal return. So even if you take the standard deduction, you absolutely should track and deduct all legitimate business expenses on Schedule C - it directly reduces your taxable income! As for Section 179 - normally, equipment like sawmills would be "capitalized" and depreciated over many years. Section 179 lets you deduct the full cost in year one instead of spreading it out. It's still a business expense, just a special category that gives you more flexibility in when you take the deduction.

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Thanks for explaining! So if I understand correctly, my business expenses reduce my business income on Schedule C, and then only the resulting profit gets added to my personal income. So deducting business expenses is always worthwhile because it reduces my taxable income before the standard deduction even comes into play? One more question - is there any downside to using Section 179 instead of regular depreciation? Seems like getting the full deduction immediately would always be better.

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You've got it exactly right! Your business expenses reduce your business income on Schedule C, and only the net profit flows to your personal return. So yes, it's absolutely worthwhile to deduct every legitimate business expense regardless of the standard deduction. As for Section 179 vs. regular depreciation, there are a few considerations. The main potential downside is if you expect higher business income in future years (higher tax bracket), you might benefit more from spreading the deductions out. Also, if you use the equipment less than 50% for business or sell it before the end of its useful life, you might have to "recapture" some of the deduction later. But for most small businesses just starting out, taking the full Section 179 deduction immediately is typically more beneficial.

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Does it actually explain WHY certain expenses should go in different categories? I've been using spreadsheets but I'm never confident if I'm doing it right. Like, how does it determine what qualifies for Section 179?

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Something nobody's mentioned is that Section 179 has a spending cap and phase-out threshold. For 2023 you can deduct up to $1,160,000 in qualifying property, but this begins to phase out after you've spent $2,890,000. Also remember that for a sole proprietorship, the equipment must be used more than 50% for business purposes to qualify for Section 179. If you use that sawmill for personal projects on weekends, keep track of business vs personal usage. And remember only new OR used equipment purchases qualify - not equipment you lease. Sounds like you're planning to buy though.

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Those spending caps are way higher than anything I'll be dealing with in my small operation, so that's good to know! What about the "placed in service" requirement? Does that mean I need to actually use the equipment before December 31st to claim it on this year's taxes? Or just have it delivered?

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Placed in" service means the equipment must be ready and available for its intended use in your business. So yes, you need to have the equipment set up and ready to use before December 31st - not just ordered or delivered. For example, if your sawmill is delivered on December 28th but requires installation or setup that'won t be completed until January 5th, it'wouldn t be "considered placed in" service for this tax year. But if'it s delivered and ready to use on December 28th, it would qualify even if you'haven t actually cut any wood with it yet. The key is that'it s set up and available for business use before the yearends.

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I see a lot of good advice here, but one thing to consider that's been missed - you mentioned you have W-2 income as well. Remember that as a sole proprietor, you'll pay both income tax AND self-employment tax (15.3%) on your business profits. So writing off legitimate business expenses is EXTRA important because they reduce both taxes. This is true even if your W-2 income already puts you above the standard deduction threshold.

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Wait, so if I understand right - even if I'm already itemizing deductions on my personal return, I should STILL deduct every business expense on Schedule C because it reduces self-employment tax too?

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Exactly! Business expenses on Schedule C reduce your net profit, which is what both income tax AND self-employment tax are calculated on. So every dollar of legitimate business expense saves you about 15.3% in self-employment tax plus whatever your income tax rate is. This is completely separate from whether you itemize or take the standard deduction on your personal return. Even if you're taking the standard deduction, those Schedule C business expenses are still reducing your self-employment tax burden. It's one of the biggest advantages of having legitimate business expenses - they get you double tax savings.

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Great question Dylan! I went through this exact confusion when I started my consulting business. Let me add a few practical tips that might help: First, definitely start tracking ALL your business expenses now, even small ones. I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, amount, vendor, and category. Take photos of receipts immediately - I learned this the hard way when I lost a $300 receipt for software. For your sawmill and log splitter specifically, before you buy, research if they qualify for the additional first-year depreciation (bonus depreciation) which can be combined with Section 179. Sometimes this combination gives you even better tax benefits. Also, don't forget about the home office deduction if you're using part of your home for the business. Even a small workshop area can qualify and reduce your taxes further. One last tip - set aside about 25-30% of your business profits in a separate account for taxes. Between income tax and self-employment tax, you'll owe more than you might expect on that Schedule C profit. Better to have too much set aside than scramble at tax time! The fact that you're thinking about this stuff now puts you way ahead of most new business owners. Good luck with the woodworking business!

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! The 25-30% tax savings tip is something I hadn't considered - I was thinking more like 15% so that's a good reality check. Quick question about the home office deduction - I'm planning to set up a workshop in my garage. Does the space need to be used EXCLUSIVELY for business to qualify? Like, can I still park my car in there sometimes, or does that disqualify the whole space? And for tracking expenses, do you recommend any specific apps or is a simple spreadsheet really sufficient? I'm worried about missing something important or not categorizing things correctly for tax time.

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