Self employed first timer - do I have to itemize business expenses if I'm taking the standard deduction?
Hey all, this is my first year filing taxes as self-employed and I'm super confused about deductions. I started my freelance graphic design business in May last year and made around $43,000. I've been keeping receipts for all my business expenses (about $7,800 in software, new computer, office supplies, etc). My main question is: if I'm planning to take the standard deduction ($13,850 as single filer), do I still need to itemize all my business expenses separately? Or does taking the standard deduction mean I can't claim any of my business expenses? I feel like I'm missing something really basic here, but all the tax articles I've read are making my head spin. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Mateo Martinez
The good news is that you can absolutely take the standard deduction AND still deduct your business expenses! These are two completely different parts of your tax return. Your business expenses go on Schedule C where you report your self-employment income and expenses. This determines your net profit from self-employment. The standard deduction comes later on Form 1040 and has nothing to do with your business expenses. So yes, definitely track and deduct all legitimate business expenses on Schedule C (computer, software, supplies, etc.). This reduces your self-employment income, which means lower income tax AND lower self-employment tax. Then, on your personal 1040, you can still take the full standard deduction ($13,850 for single filers) instead of itemizing personal deductions like mortgage interest or charitable donations.
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Nia Davis
•Oh thank goodness! That makes so much more sense. So I'll be listing all my business expenses on Schedule C to reduce my self-employment income, and then separately taking the standard deduction on my 1040. Do I need receipts for every single business expense? I have most of them but might be missing a few smaller things.
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Mateo Martinez
•That's exactly right! You've got the concept down perfectly now. Regarding receipts, it's definitely good practice to keep them for all business expenses. While you don't need to submit them with your tax return, you should keep them for at least 3 years in case of an audit. For smaller items (under $75), the requirements are a bit more relaxed, but I still recommend keeping as much documentation as possible. If you're missing a few minor receipts, you can still claim those expenses if you have other ways to verify them (like bank or credit card statements showing the purchase).
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QuantumQueen
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Aisha Rahman
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QuantumQueen
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Aisha Rahman
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Nia Davis
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Carmen Flores
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Andre Dubois
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're also deducting half of your self-employment tax as an adjustment to income! This is separate from both your business expenses AND the standard deduction. It's on Schedule SE and gets transferred to the first page of your 1040 as an adjustment to income. Also, since this is your first year self-employed, don't forget you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments for this tax year. The IRS doesn't like waiting until April for self-employment taxes!
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CyberSamurai
•Wait I thought the self employment tax deduction was eliminated in the tax law changes? My cousin who does taxes told me that was gone now.
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Andre Dubois
•Your cousin is incorrect. The deduction for half of your self-employment tax is still very much available and was NOT eliminated in any recent tax law changes. This is different from some itemized deductions that were changed or limited. The self-employment tax deduction is an "adjustment to income" (sometimes called an "above-the-line deduction"), not an itemized deduction, so it remains unaffected. You calculate it on Schedule SE, and it flows to Schedule 1, then to your Form 1040. It's definitely worth claiming as it can save you hundreds of dollars!
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Zoe Alexopoulos
Has anyone used TurboSelf Employed? Is it worth the extra $90 or should I just use the regular TurboTax?
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Jamal Carter
•I found FreeTaxUSA much better and waaaaay cheaper. They handle Schedule C just fine in their regular version and it only cost me $15 for state filing (federal was free). TurboTax wanted like $180 total for my return with self-employment income.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•Thanks for the suggestion! I didn't know FreeTaxUSA could handle self-employment stuff. $15 is a lot better than the $180 TurboTax quoted me. Did it walk you through all the self-employment deductions and stuff? I'm definitely going to check that out instead. I was dreading paying the TurboTax premium just because I have some side hustle income.
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