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Let me add a wrinkle most people don't know - if you distributed any business assets to yourself during the dissolution (like computers, furniture, etc.), that needs to be reported as a liquidating distribution on your final 1120-S. The corporation is treated as having sold these assets to you at fair market value. I completely messed this up when closing my S-corp and ended up having to amend returns. Cost me an extra $400 in accounting fees!
I went through this exact same situation with my S-corp dissolution last year and want to emphasize something that might save you some headaches - make sure you also cancel your EIN with the IRS after everything is filed and processed. Even after filing all the final returns (1120-S, Form 966, etc.) and getting state dissolution completed, I kept getting IRS notices asking about missing tax returns for subsequent years because the EIN was still active in their system. You have to specifically write to the IRS requesting EIN cancellation and include copies of your dissolution documents. Also, if you had any business bank accounts, credit cards, or merchant services tied to your EIN, close those ASAP. Some banks will report 1099s to closed business EINs which can trigger more IRS correspondence down the road. The penalty situation sucks, but as others mentioned, first-time penalty abatement is usually granted if you've been compliant in the past. Get everything filed immediately to stop the bleeding, then deal with penalty relief afterward.
This is really helpful advice about the EIN cancellation! I had no idea that was a separate step. Do you happen to know what address or department at the IRS you need to write to for EIN cancellation? And roughly how long it took for them to process your request? I'm worried about getting those phantom tax return notices you mentioned - that sounds like exactly the kind of bureaucratic nightmare I'm trying to avoid by handling everything properly upfront.
Just wondering - have you looked into equity compensation restructuring? If a portion of that $1.1M is from stock options, RSUs or other equity comp, there are timing strategies that can make a huge difference. I saved nearly 6 figures last year by working with my employer to adjust my vesting schedule and exercise timing.
Given your income level, I'd strongly recommend looking into conservation easements if you own any land or are considering real estate investments. These can provide substantial tax deductions - sometimes 4-5x your investment - while preserving land for conservation purposes. Also, consider a defined benefit pension plan if you have any self-employment income or consulting work on the side. These allow much higher contributions than traditional 401ks - potentially $200k+ annually depending on your age and income. One strategy that's often overlooked is bunching deductions into alternate years. Since you're likely itemizing anyway, consider prepaying property taxes, state taxes (up to the SALT cap), and charitable donations in alternating years to maximize the benefit. Finally, if you're married, look into spousal IRA contributions and income-splitting strategies through family partnerships for any investment income. The key at your level is having multiple strategies working together rather than relying on any single approach.
These are some really advanced strategies I hadn't heard of before. The conservation easement idea sounds intriguing but also potentially risky - are there specific compliance requirements or audit risks I should be aware of? Also, regarding the defined benefit pension plan, wouldn't I need to have actual employees to make that work, or can it be set up for just myself if I have some consulting income on the side?
Has anyone tried bunching charitable deductions? With the higher standard deduction ($29,200 for married filing jointly in 2024), we've started doing this where we donate 2-3 years worth of charitable contributions in a single year so we can itemize that year, then take the standard deduction in the off years. We're also looking into donor-advised funds where you can get the tax deduction immediately but distribute the actual charitable gifts over time. Anyone have experience with these strategies?
We've been doing the bunching strategy for 3 years now and it works really well. We donate to our church and various charities in January and December of the same year, then nothing the next year. Increases our deduction by about $6,500 in the "on" years. Never tried a donor-advised fund though - seems like it might have fees that eat into the benefit?
One strategy you might be overlooking is a backdoor Roth IRA conversion. Since your MAGI is over $146K and you can't deduct traditional IRA contributions, you could still contribute $7,000 to a non-deductible traditional IRA, then immediately convert it to a Roth IRA. This won't reduce your current tax liability, but it's tax-free growth for retirement. Also, since you mentioned having kids, make sure you're getting the full Child Tax Credit ($2,000 per child under 17). The credit phases out at higher incomes but doesn't start until $400K for married filing jointly. Another option: If your employer offers a cafeteria plan or flexible spending account beyond just healthcare, you might be able to redirect some compensation to pre-tax benefits like commuter benefits, life insurance premiums, or dependent care assistance. Finally, consider timing any major purchases or medical expenses. If you're close to the 7.5% AGI threshold for medical deductions, you might bunch medical expenses into one year to exceed the threshold.
Great point about the backdoor Roth IRA! I'm in a similar income situation and have been hesitant to do this because I heard about something called the "pro-rata rule" - if you already have money in traditional IRAs, doesn't that complicate the conversion? I have about $15K in an old traditional IRA from a previous employer that I never rolled over to my 401k. Would I need to convert all of it to make the backdoor Roth work properly? Also, for the medical expense bunching strategy you mentioned - are there any timing restrictions on when you can schedule things like dental work or elective procedures to maximize the tax benefit?
Does anyone know how this gift reporting works with crypto? My dad wants to transfer some Bitcoin to me instead of traditional currency (he's in Singapore). Would that still count as a foreign gift that needs to be reported on Form 3520 if it's over $100,000?
Yes, crypto gifts from foreign persons still count toward the $100,000 Form 3520 reporting threshold. The IRS treats cryptocurrency as property, but the gift reporting requirements still apply. Make sure you document the fair market value of the crypto on the date you receive it - that's what you'll need to report. Also, don't forget this establishes your cost basis for when you eventually sell or exchange the crypto. So if your dad gives you Bitcoin worth $80,000 and you later sell it for $100,000, you'd have a taxable capital gain of $20,000.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation as a green card holder expecting to receive money from my parents overseas. One thing I want to add that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of keeping detailed records of the gift. Even though you won't owe taxes on the gift itself, the IRS may ask for documentation if they have questions later. I recommend getting a signed letter from your father stating that the money is a gift with no expectation of repayment, along with bank transfer records showing the source of funds. Also, be aware that large international wire transfers (typically over $10,000) are automatically reported to FinCEN by banks, so the government will already have a record of the transfer. Having your own documentation helps prove it was a legitimate family gift rather than unreported income. One last tip - if you're planning to use the gift money for a major purchase like a house, your mortgage lender will likely ask for a gift letter and proof of the funds' origin anyway, so having this documentation prepared in advance will save you headaches later!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't thought about the mortgage lender aspect - that's a great point about having documentation ready in advance. Quick question: for the signed letter from the gift giver, does it need to be notarized or is a simple signed statement sufficient? Also, should it include specific language about the source of the funds (like mentioning it comes from savings, inheritance, etc.) or is it enough to just state it's a gift with no repayment expected?
Giovanni Colombo
Great question! I went through the same confusion a few months ago. The trace number is basically the IRS's internal tracking ID for your specific refund payment. When you see "funded to you" with a trace number, it means your refund has been fully approved and is now in the payment pipeline. You should see your money within 3-5 business days for direct deposit or 1-2 weeks for a mailed check. The hardest part is over - your return cleared all their checks and reviews. Now it's just a matter of the payment system doing its thing. Hang in there, you're almost done!
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Grace Durand
ā¢This is super helpful! I've been checking the IRS site obsessively and seeing all these different statuses and numbers. It's reassuring to know that the trace number basically means I'm in the home stretch. Thanks for breaking it down in simple terms - much easier to understand than the IRS jargon!
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Zoe Wang
I see you're getting great answers here! Just wanted to add that you can also check your bank account for any pending deposits - sometimes the money shows up there before the IRS website updates to "refund sent" status. I've noticed with my credit union that refunds often appear as pending a day or two before they actually clear. The trace number is definitely your green light though - you're in the final stretch! Fingers crossed it hits your account soon. š¤
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