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Just to add my two cents - in most cases, Married Filing Jointly is better than Separately. The rare exceptions are: 1) If one spouse has significant medical expenses, student loan interest, or certain other itemized deductions that have AGI thresholds 2) If one spouse has income-based student loan payments that would increase significantly 3) If one spouse has tax debts the other doesn't want to be responsible for 4) If you live in a community property state with complex income situations Unless you fall into one of these categories, MFJ is almost always better tax-wise.
What about if one spouse is self-employed with a Schedule C business and the other is W-2? Does that change the calculation at all?
In a self-employed and W-2 earner situation, filing jointly is usually still more advantageous. The self-employed spouse can still take all their business deductions on Schedule C regardless of filing status. When filing jointly, you might actually benefit more from certain deductions like the Qualified Business Income deduction, which can be affected by your combined household income. One scenario where separate filing might help is if the self-employed spouse has potential audit concerns or inconsistent income reporting that could create tax issues. In that case, the W-2 earner might want to file separately to avoid joint liability. But strictly from a tax savings perspective, joint filing typically results in a lower total tax bill even with a Schedule C business involved.
Has anyone used the IRS withholding calculator to fix this problem? My husband and I keep owing every year despite both claiming "married" on our W-4s and I'm tired of writing checks to the IRS.
I've used it and it works pretty well. Just make sure you have your most recent paystubs and last year's tax return handy when you use it. The calculator will tell you exactly what to put on your W-4s. My husband and I both earn around $65k and we had to add about $80 additional withholding per paycheck each to break even.
I'm in a similar situation and my accountant recommended calculating the additional tax myself using the tax brackets. For example, if your first job puts you in the 22% bracket, and your second job pushes you partly into the 24% bracket, calculate how much of that second income will be taxed at 24% vs 22%, then figure out how much extra you need withheld per paycheck. You can also do a "catch-up" amount if you're starting the second job mid-year by dividing the additional tax by the number of remaining pay periods.
Could you explain how to actually calculate this with an example? I'm trying to do this math myself but getting confused about where the bracket cutoffs are and how to determine the additional amount needed.
Sure! Let's use 2024 tax brackets for a single filer as an example. The 22% bracket goes from $44,726 to $95,375, and the 24% bracket is $95,376 to $182,100. If your first job pays $85,000, you're already in the 22% bracket. When you add $55,000 from the second job, your total is $140,000. So $95,375 - $85,000 = $10,375 of your second job income is still in the 22% bracket, and the remaining $44,625 is in the 24% bracket. The additional tax you'd owe is: $10,375 Ć 22% = $2,282.50, plus $44,625 Ć 24% = $10,710. Total extra tax of $12,992.50. If you're paid biweekly (26 paychecks), you'd need about $500 extra withheld per paycheck to cover this. You could either check the multiple jobs box on one W-4 or add an additional amount to Step 4(c).
Has anyone used the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator for multiple jobs? I tried it last year and found it super confusing. It kept asking for YTD withholding info I didn't have handy.
I use it regularly and find it pretty accurate, but you definitely need your paystubs and last year's tax return handy. The key is entering the information exactly as requested. For the second job, you can enter the expected annual salary and $0 for withholding so far if you haven't started yet. The estimator will then tell you exactly what to put on each W-4. I've found it gets me within $100 of my actual tax bill every year.
One other thing to consider - if you're claiming your parents as dependents, make sure you're keeping good records of how you're supporting them! My sister got audited last year after claiming our mom (similar situation, only SS income). The IRS wanted proof she provided >50% of support. She had to show rent payments, utility bills, grocery receipts, medical expenses, etc. Just having them live with you isn't enough documentation alone!
Just double check that your parents aren't required to file for other reasons! My dad was in a similar situation but forgot he had sold some stock that year (literally like $200 worth) and that triggered a filing requirement even though his Social Security wasn't taxable. The IRS computers automatically cross-reference all those 1099 forms so they'll know if there's any additional income. Better to check thoroughly than get a surprise letter later!
This happened to my grandma too! She had like $20 in dividend income from some ancient account she forgot about and it caused such a headache with the IRS. They're really strict about everything being reported properly.
Just a heads up, there's also the Free File Fillable Forms option directly from the IRS website. It's basically the electronic version of filling out your tax forms manually. No guidance, but completely free regardless of income level. If you're comfortable with basic tax concepts and can follow form instructions, it's a solid option for simple returns, even with an HSA. You'll need to fill out Form 8889 for the HSA part, but it's not that complicated if you have your HSA statement from your provider.
I've heard of those but never tried them. Are they user-friendly at all? I'm definitely not a tax expert but I can follow instructions. Do they do the math calculations for you or do you have to do everything manually?
They're somewhat user-friendly - definitely better than paper forms, but not as guided as commercial software. They do handle the math calculations for you, which is a huge help. They also perform basic error checks before you submit. The main challenge is knowing which forms you need. For your situation, you'd need Form 1040, Schedule 1 (for the HSA contribution deduction line), and Form 8889 for HSA details. The system doesn't tell you which forms you need - you have to determine that yourself. But if you're just dealing with W-2 income and an HSA, it's manageable.
Has anyone tried H&R Block's free version? I thought they handled HSAs in their free tier but maybe that changed this year?
Diego Vargas
19 Don't forget about keeping a detailed gambling diary/log! In addition to the statements others mentioned, the IRS actually expects you to maintain a contemporaneous log of your gambling activity. Include: - Date and type of gambling - Name and address of gambling establishment - Names of other people with you when gambling (if applicable) - Amount won or lost I learned this the hard way during an audit a few years back. Even with casino statements, they wanted to see my personal records too. Start keeping one now for any future gambling, and try to reconstruct as best you can for this year!
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Diego Vargas
ā¢3 Is there a specific format the IRS requires for this gambling log? Can I just create a spreadsheet or do they want something more formal? Seems like a lot of work to track every single bet.
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Diego Vargas
ā¢19 There's no official IRS form for the gambling log, so a spreadsheet works perfectly fine. The key is consistency and detail. For occasional gamblers, it's not too burdensome, but I understand it can be a lot if you gamble frequently. For high-volume bettors like sports gamblers, most online platforms allow you to download your complete betting history, which the IRS will generally accept if it contains the necessary details. The personal log becomes more important for cash games and situations where electronic records aren't automatically generated. The IRS mainly wants to see that you're tracking your activity in a systematic way.
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Diego Vargas
11 Just an important point nobody's mentioned - those W-2G forms from the raffle will be reported directly to the IRS, but your losses won't be unless you report them. Make absolutely sure your reported winnings match what's on the W-2G exactly, or you'll get an automatic mismatch letter from the IRS. Also, I found out last year that even if you itemize and deduct all your losses, the full amount of your gambling winnings still counts toward your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income), which can affect things like your Medicare premiums, social security taxation, and various tax credits. Something to be aware of!
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Diego Vargas
ā¢25 Wait, so you're saying even if I deduct $15k in losses against my $82k win, my AGI still goes up by the full $82k? That seems really unfair!
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