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One approach I've found helpful is to just use the IRS withholding calculator but put in that you're a contractor. It asks for your expected annual income and then tells you what your estimated total tax will be. Then just divide that by your expected income to get your percentage. For me making around $60k in North Carolina, it worked out to about 28% total (federal + state + SE tax).
Thanks for this suggestion! Is the IRS withholding calculator pretty accurate for self-employment income? And does it include the self-employment tax in its calculation or just income tax?
The IRS withholding calculator is actually pretty accurate for self-employment income! It does include self-employment tax in its calculations when you indicate you're a contractor or have self-employment income. When you go through the calculator, make sure to select "yes" when it asks about self-employment income and enter your expected annual earnings. It will factor in both the 15.3% self-employment tax and your regular income tax based on your bracket. Just keep in mind that the calculator assumes you'll have some standard deductions available, so if you have significant business expenses you can deduct, your actual percentage might be a bit lower than what it shows. But it's a great starting point for figuring out a realistic savings rate!
Just want to echo what others have said about the 30% rule being a good starting point! I've been freelancing for about 3 years now and initially panicked thinking I needed to save 45%+ like you mentioned. What I learned is that the self-employment tax and income tax aren't completely separate buckets. The SE tax deduction actually reduces your adjusted gross income for income tax purposes, so there's some overlap in the calculation. My personal system: I save 32% of everything I earn and put it in a separate high-yield savings account labeled "taxes." At the end of the year, I usually have a small buffer left over that becomes a nice bonus for myself. Better to save a little extra and be pleasantly surprised than to come up short! Also, don't sleep on tracking your business expenses from day one. Even small things add up - software subscriptions, office supplies, part of your phone bill, professional development courses, even some meals if they're business-related. I use a simple spreadsheet and it's saved me thousands over the years. The quarterly payments become routine once you get into the rhythm. Just remember the due dates: January 15, April 15, June 15, and September 15. Set calendar reminders now!
This is such helpful advice! I love the idea of putting the tax savings in a separate high-yield account - that way it's earning something while I wait for quarterly payments. Quick question about the quarterly payment dates - I thought the September one was September 15th, but isn't the January payment actually due January 15th of the following year? So if I started freelancing this year, my first payment wouldn't be due until January 15th next year? I want to make sure I have the timing right so I don't accidentally miss a deadline. Also, do you have any specific recommendations for tracking business expenses? A spreadsheet sounds manageable, but I'm wondering if there are any apps or tools that make it even easier to stay on top of throughout the year.
Make sure ur direct deposit info is correct in ur return. I had similar numbers but had to wait extra 2 weeks cuz I typed one number wrong smh
double checked and its all good! thx for looking out
Just wanted to add that your cycle code 76221-423-28643-5 is actually a really good sign! The "762" at the beginning typically indicates they processed your return without any major issues or flags. With your processing date of Feb 24th, you should definitely see that $9,358 hit your account within the next week or so. The fact that everything else shows zeros (penalties, interest, etc.) means it's a clean refund with no complications. Congrats on the solid refund amount!
Has anyone else noticed that Schedule C is a nightmare for these borderline situations? Like last year I had a client pay me in gift cards (weird but whatever) and I had no idea how to report it.
Gift cards as payment from clients is definitely taxable income! That's different from OP's situation with a promotional gift card. When a client pays you with anything of value (cash, gift cards, barter) you have to report it as income and then you can deduct business expenses paid with those gift cards.
Great discussion here! As someone who's dealt with similar situations, I want to emphasize what Teresa mentioned about checking for that 1099-MISC - that's really the key factor. I had a comparable situation with a bank sign-up bonus that I used for business equipment. The bank sent me a 1099-INT for the bonus amount, so I had to report it as income but then could deduct the full equipment cost. One thing to watch out for: even if you don't get a 1099 this year, some credit card companies have been changing their reporting practices. Keep good records of the promotion terms and your purchase receipts just in case the IRS ever questions it. The fact that you're being thoughtful about this now shows you're on the right track! For your current situation with no 1099, sticking with the $40 out-of-pocket deduction is the safe approach.
Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this scenario? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if their software can properly calculate the AMT implications or if I need to find a specialized tax preparer.
I tried using TurboTax last year for my stock option situation and it was a nightmare. It doesn't handle the AMT calculations well at all, especially for tracking your basis adjustments across multiple years. I ended up having to redo everything with a professional.
I went through almost the exact same situation with my startup options in 2021. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of all the valuation documents from the exercise date - the 409A valuation report, exercise confirmation, and any board resolutions that established the fair market value. When I eventually sold some shares at a loss two years later, having those original valuation documents made it much easier for my tax preparer to properly calculate both my regular tax basis and AMT basis. The IRS may want to see proof of how that $130 per share value was determined, especially since it ended up being significantly higher than the IPO price. Also, don't forget that if you paid AMT in 2022 because of the exercise, you'll likely have AMT credits that can be carried forward indefinitely. These credits can offset regular tax in future years when your regular tax exceeds your AMT. It's one small silver lining in an otherwise frustrating situation.
Giovanni Mancini
Just want to add that state taxes can be trickier than federal in this situation! California is super aggressive about claiming people as residents even after they leave. When I left CA, I had to do all of the following to convince them I wasn't a resident anymore: 1) Close CA bank accounts 2) Get a driver's license in my new country 3) Sell my CA property 4) Register to vote in my new location 5) Move my belongings out of storage in CA Even after all that, they still sent me letters for 2 years! Make sure you formally terminate your state residency before leaving.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
ā¢Is it different for each state? I'm in Texas right now and planning to do the digital nomad thing next year.
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Paolo Conti
ā¢Texas is actually much easier since it has no state income tax! You won't have the same residency termination headaches that California residents face. States like California, New York, and Virginia are notoriously aggressive about maintaining tax claims on former residents, but Texas doesn't have that issue since there's no income tax to begin with. You'll still need to handle federal tax obligations, but the state side will be much simpler for you.
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Zara Perez
Great question! I went through something similar when I moved from the US to start my nomad journey in 2023. A few key things to consider: **Federal Tax Obligations:** - You'll likely still need to file a US tax return for 2024 since you were physically present in the US for part of the year - Keep detailed records of your exact departure date and where you earn income after leaving - If you're not a US citizen, you may be able to terminate your tax residency status once you leave, but this depends on your specific visa situation **State Tax Considerations:** - Since you're in California, definitely take the state tax termination steps seriously (as Giovanni mentioned above) - File a final CA tax return marking yourself as a part-year resident - California will want to see clear evidence that you've severed all ties **Digital Nomad Income:** - The source of your income matters - if your clients are US-based, there may be withholding requirements even after you leave - Consider whether you qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion once you meet the physical presence test **Pro tip:** Start documenting everything now - flight bookings, accommodation receipts, work location logs. The IRS loves paper trails for international tax situations! Would definitely recommend getting professional advice given the complexity of your situation with both federal and CA state tax implications.
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