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Am I the only one who thinks the whole education credit system is ridiculously complicated? I went through 3 different tax software programs last year trying to figure out how to claim my education expenses correctly. Ultimately I found TurboTax handled this specific scenario better than HR Block or TaxAct. It gives you an option to say "My school did not provide a 1098-T" and then lets you manually enter your qualified expenses.

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Noah Irving

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Agreed! The education credits are so confusing. I switched to TurboTax this year after having the same issue with HR Block last year. TurboTax still asks for the 1098-T but has a clearer path for handling situations where you don't have one. Worth the switch for me!

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I had this exact same issue with HR Block last year! The software gets stuck in that loop where it keeps asking for the 2024 1098-T even when you tell it you don't have one. Here's what finally worked for me: Instead of following the education section's 1098-T pathway, I had to completely exit out of that section and look for "Education Credits" under a different menu (I think it was under "Deductions & Credits" rather than the main education flow). From there, I was able to manually enter my education expenses without the software expecting a specific form. You'll want to use the amounts from your 2023 1098-T since those were your actual qualified expenses - the fact that box 7 was checked means those payments were for your 2024 academic year. It's super frustrating that the software doesn't handle this common scenario better, but once you find the manual entry path it should work fine. You might also try clearing your browser cache and starting fresh if you've been going in circles for a while.

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I've been going in circles with this for days. I think I found the "Education Credits" section you mentioned - it's under the "Deductions & Credits" tab, not in the main interview flow where I was stuck. Just to confirm I understand correctly: I should use the tuition amounts from my 2023 1098-T (the one with box 7 checked) and enter those as my qualified education expenses for 2024, right? Even though the payments were technically made in 2023, I claim the credit for 2024 since that's when I was actually enrolled and taking classes? This makes so much more sense than the circular logic the main education section was putting me through!

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Laura Lopez

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Community wisdom on avoiding SBTPG: • Most tax prep companies use either SBTPG or Republic • H&R Block uses Axos Bank (mixed reviews) • TurboTax uses SBTPG exclusively • Jackson Hewitt uses both SBTPG and Republic • Direct deposit to your own account is always fastest • Paying prep fees upfront avoids these banks entirely I've been filing for 15+ years and learned this the hard way. These refund transfer services only exist to take fees from people who can't pay upfront.

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Just went through this nightmare with SBTPG myself this year! My refund was delayed 18 days and their customer service was absolutely terrible. Here's what I'm doing differently next year: I'm switching to FreeTaxUSA and paying the small fee upfront ($14.99 for state filing) to get direct deposit straight to my bank account. No third-party banks, no transfer fees, no delays. Another option if you want to stick with Jackson Hewitt - ask them specifically about their "no bank product" option where you pay fees upfront. Some locations don't advertise this but they all offer it. You just have to be very clear that you want direct deposit to YOUR account, not through any refund transfer service. The key is being prepared to pay those prep fees out of pocket instead of having them deducted from your refund. It's worth it to avoid the SBTPG headache!

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Hey, just wanted to add another perspective. We had the same issue in 2022 and ended up owing about $5k in healthcare subsidies. We didn't know about the income threshold either until it was too late. What we did was amend our tax return to include some overlooked deductions (home office for self-employment, some business expenses we initially thought weren't deductible). This brought our MAGI down juuuust enough to qualify for the repayment cap. Ended up paying back only about $2,700 instead of the full amount. Definitely talk to your tax person about any possible deductions you might have missed!

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This is exactly what I was going to suggest. Look at HSA contributions too - you can actually make those up until the tax filing deadline (including extensions!) and they'll count for the previous year. Could help reduce MAGI enough to hit that cap threshold.

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StarSurfer

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That's really helpful, thank you! We definitely have some business expenses from our side gigs that we might not have fully accounted for. And I had no idea about being able to make HSA contributions even now for last year. Will definitely look into all of this before we finalize our return!

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One thing nobody mentioned yet is that the marketplace subsidies are totally separate from the Premium Tax Credit you calculate on your return. If you can show that your income increase was unpredictable (like your bonus or sudden business growth), you might qualify for the IRC Section 6662 "reasonable cause" exception for the underpayment penalty. It won't help with paying back the actual subsidy, but could save you hundreds in penalties. Just make sure to include a detailed letter explaining the circumstances with your return.

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Is this really true? I thought the marketplace subsidies ARE the advance payment of the Premium Tax Credit. They're the same thing, just paid in advance based on your estimate. Am I missing something?

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Cole Roush

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You're absolutely right - the marketplace subsidies are advance payments of the Premium Tax Credit. I think Giovanni might be confusing some terminology here. The reconciliation happens on Form 8962 where you compare what you received in advance versus what you were actually eligible for based on final income. However, the "reasonable cause" exception for penalties is still valid advice. If you can demonstrate that the income increase was unexpected and not due to negligence, you might avoid accuracy-related penalties. But it won't change the actual subsidy repayment amount - that's based purely on the income thresholds.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Has anyone formed an LLC just for the prototype phase? I'm wondering if I should form an LLC now to start getting these deductions, or if I can just track my expenses and form the LLC later when I'm closer to having a sellable product?

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Mae Bennett

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You don't actually need an LLC to claim startup deductions. I started as a sole proprietorship using just a DBA (doing business as) filing, which cost only $35 in my county. This let me open a business bank account and track expenses properly while I was in the development phase. Later converted to an LLC when I was ready to launch. The key is documenting your clear business purpose and keeping good records of all expenses. Save emails, notes from meetings, research documents - anything that shows you're seriously pursuing a business, not just a hobby.

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Charlie Yang

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Great question about startup costs! One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the timing aspect of when you can actually claim these deductions. You can't just spend money on prototype development and immediately deduct it - the IRS requires that your business has "begun operations" to claim startup cost deductions. For your prototype situation, here's what I learned when I went through something similar: The expenses you incur before your business begins operations are considered "startup costs" under Section 195. However, you can only deduct them in the tax year when your business actually starts operating (even if you don't have sales yet). The good news is that "beginning operations" doesn't require sales - it just means you're actively engaged in the business activity you intend to pursue. So if you're seriously developing prototypes with the intent to launch a business, that could qualify. My advice: Start keeping detailed records NOW of all prototype expenses, even if you haven't formed a business entity yet. Include invoices, receipts, and documentation of your business plan/intent. When you do officially start operations, you'll be able to claim up to $5,000 of those pre-operational costs as a current year deduction, with any excess amortized over 15 years. Also consider consulting with a tax professional about whether some of your prototype costs might qualify for R&D credits instead of (or in addition to) startup cost treatment - sometimes that can be more valuable depending on your situation.

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Lucy Taylor

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This is really helpful clarification on the timing! I'm just getting started with my research on this topic and had been wondering about that exact issue - whether I need to wait until I'm "officially" in business to claim these deductions. Your point about documenting business intent is spot on. I've been keeping all my research notes and prototype sketches, but I should probably be more systematic about tracking expenses and creating a clearer paper trail of my business development process. Quick follow-up question - when you say "actively engaged in business activity," does that include things like market research, competitor analysis, and talking to potential customers? Or does it need to be more concrete like actually manufacturing prototypes?

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Does anyone know if you can claim this credit if you pay a family member to watch your kids? My mother-in-law watches my kids while I work on my freelance projects (all 1099 income), and I do pay her, but it's cash. Can I still claim the dependent care credit?

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No, you can't claim the credit if the childcare provider is your spouse, the parent of your child, your child under age 19, or a dependent that you can claim on your tax return. Since it's your mother-in-law, you might be okay, but you need to report her SSN and she needs to report the income. Cash payments are fine as long as you both report them properly.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned after doing some research. Your tax preparer is definitely incorrect about needing W-2 income for the dependent care credit. What really helped me was looking up IRS Publication 503 directly - it clearly states that self-employed individuals can claim this credit. The key is that you need to have "earned income" which includes net earnings from self-employment (your 1099 income). One important thing to keep in mind though - if your business expenses are high and you end up with a loss or very low net earnings from self-employment, that could limit your credit amount. But based on what you're saying about paying $8,000 in childcare expenses, it sounds like you're actively working and should definitely qualify. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional who has more experience with self-employment taxation. You shouldn't have to miss out on credits you're legitimately entitled to claim!

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Paolo Rizzo

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Thanks for sharing Publication 503! I just looked it up myself and you're absolutely right - it's crystal clear that self-employed people can claim this credit. I'm actually shocked at how many tax preparers seem to get this wrong. I'm curious though - do you know if there are any special documentation requirements for 1099 workers? Like, do we need to keep anything different than what W-2 employees would keep for their childcare expenses? I want to make sure I have everything properly documented before I go to a new preparer.

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