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Been banking with Chime for 3 years and can confirm they're super fast with deposits! But yeah, the IRS doesn't actually send anything on weekends. Last year my deposit date fell on a Sunday and I got it the Friday before around 3pm. With Presidents Day this year though, you're probably looking at Tuesday the 18th like others said. The waiting game is brutal but at least Chime won't hold it up once the IRS releases it!
This is super helpful info! Three years of experience with Chime definitely gives you credibility. The Friday before thing gives me some hope, but you're probably right about Tuesday being more realistic with the holiday. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I've been through this exact situation with Chime before! The key thing to remember is that while Chime is great at processing deposits quickly once they receive them, the IRS still follows federal banking rules. They don't initiate ACH transfers on weekends or federal holidays. Since your deposit date is Saturday the 16th and Monday the 17th is Presidents Day, the IRS will most likely send your refund on Friday the 15th (which means you could see it Thursday night or Friday morning with Chime's early deposit) or Tuesday the 18th. I'd lean toward Friday since the IRS usually tries to get refunds out before the scheduled date when weekends are involved. Keep checking your account Thursday evening!
This is exactly the kind of detailed insight I was hoping for! Your experience with the same situation really helps. I'll definitely start checking Thursday evening - didn't realize Chime might process it that early. The Friday scenario sounds pretty promising given that the IRS usually tries to avoid weekend delays. Thanks for breaking down all the timing factors!
Has anyone actually SEEN the withholding tables the IRS uses? I'm curious how much difference there really is between the different options. I checked "single" even though I'm married just to avoid owing (my husband does "married") and now we get huge refunds which isn't ideal either.
Yes! They're in IRS Publication 15-T (Federal Income Tax Withholding Methods). Here's the current version: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p15t.pdf It's kind of complicated but has all the tables showing exactly how much is withheld based on filing status, income level, and pay frequency. The difference between "Single" and "Married" can be substantial especially at higher income levels.
I've been following this thread and wanted to share my experience since I dealt with the exact same frustrating cycle for about 4 years. What finally worked for me was using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator mid-year (around July) rather than trying to fix it at the beginning of the year. The key insight I learned is that if you're already halfway through the tax year and realize you're going to owe, you need to calculate how much extra withholding you need for the REMAINING pay periods, not the whole year. So if you need an extra $1,200 withheld and you have 10 paychecks left, you need to add $120 per paycheck, not divide $1,200 by 26 pay periods. Also, I'd definitely recommend the "Married but withhold at higher single rate" option that everyone's mentioning. We switched to that two years ago and it solved about 90% of our underwithholding problem. The remaining 10% we handle with a small additional withholding amount that we recalculate each July using the estimator tool.
This is such a smart approach! I never thought about adjusting the calculation based on remaining pay periods rather than the full year. That explains why my "extra withholding" never seemed to be enough - I was probably spreading it across too many paychecks when I calculated it early in the year. The mid-year check using the estimator tool is brilliant too. I've always tried to set everything up in January and then just hoped it would work out, but doing a reality check halfway through the year makes so much more sense. Thanks for sharing this strategy!
Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that we have to ask for EXTRA money to be taken out of our paychecks?? The whole system is so messed up. The IRS already knows how much we should be paying, why make it so complicated???
It's because the W-4 withholding system is based on a pretty simple formula that doesn't account for all possible income situations. If you have multiple jobs, investment income, self-employment on the side, or itemized deductions, the standard withholding might not cover your actual tax liability.
This is definitely frustrating, and you're right to be concerned. Your employer is legally required to follow the withholding instructions on your W-4, including any additional withholding amounts you've requested. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. **Gather your documentation** - Make sure you have a copy of the signed W-4 showing the $40 additional withholding request, and collect all your pay stubs showing the missing withholding. 2. **Contact payroll immediately** - This could be a simple processing error. Bring your W-4 copy and ask them to explain why the additional withholding isn't appearing on your pay stubs. 3. **Request immediate correction** - If it was an error, ask them to fix it for future paychecks AND to make a catch-up withholding for the missed amounts ($40 x number of paychecks missed). 4. **Get everything in writing** - Document all conversations with dates, names, and what was discussed. If your employer refuses to comply, you may want to contact your state's labor department, as this could be considered a payroll violation. The IRS doesn't directly handle employer compliance issues, but proper documentation will help if you face underpayment penalties at tax time. Don't panic about owing taxes yet - focus on getting this fixed for the remaining pay periods this year, and you might be able to make up most of the difference.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with something similar but wondering - if the employer acknowledges it was their mistake, are they required to help with any penalties I might face? Like if I end up owing underpayment penalties because of their error, shouldn't they be responsible for that?
Have you tried contacting a Taxpayer Advocate? They're supposed to help when normal channels aren't working! I'm worried about your quarterly issue causing cascading problems if it's not resolved quickly. Would your accountant be able to help navigate this? So frustrating that our tax system makes it this difficult to just talk to someone!
I feel your frustration! As someone who's dealt with similar IRS phone issues, I found success with a few strategies: First, try the automated callback feature when available - you can request a callback instead of waiting on hold. Second, consider faxing your inquiry to the Business & Specialty Tax Line at 855-641-6935 with your specific discrepancy details and contact info. Third, if this is truly time-sensitive for your estimated payments, you might qualify for Taxpayer Advocate Services (mentioned by others) - they have authority to expedite cases that could cause financial hardship. Also, check if your issue can be resolved through your online IRS account or by mailing Form 843 if it's about penalties/interest. Document everything for your records!
Zachary Hughes
Hey Diego, I feel your pain - I've been in a similar situation before. The key thing is to act fast now. Since you can't get a retroactive extension, your best bet is to file your return ASAP to minimize the failure-to-file penalty. Here's what I'd recommend: 1) File immediately, even if you can't pay the full amount owed. The failure-to-file penalty is much steeper than the failure-to-pay penalty. 2) Pay as much as you can when you file to reduce interest charges. 3) If you have a clean filing history for the past 3 years, definitely look into First Time Penalty Abatement after you get your penalty notice from the IRS. Don't beat yourself up too much - life happens and you're taking action now. The penalties aren't fun but they're manageable, especially if you qualify for penalty abatement. Good luck!
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Brooklyn Foley
ā¢This is really solid advice, @Zachary Hughes! I'm in a similar boat as Diego and had no idea about the First Time Penalty Abatement option. Quick question - do you know roughly how long it takes for the IRS to process that request once you submit it? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth waiting for their penalty notice or if I should just plan to pay the penalties upfront when I file.
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Connor Gallagher
ā¢@Brooklyn Foley From my experience, the IRS typically takes 4-6 weeks to process a First Time Penalty Abatement request once you call or send in the written request. I d'definitely recommend just filing your return now and paying what you can, then waiting for the penalty notice to arrive usually (2-4 weeks after filing .)Don t'pay the penalties upfront when you file - let the IRS assess them first, then request the abatement. If they approve it, you ll'only owe the interest portion, which is much smaller. If they deny it which (is rare if you truly qualify ,)you can always pay the penalties then. This approach saves you from potentially overpaying and having to wait for a refund.
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CosmicCommander
Don't panic, Diego! While you can't get a retroactive extension, you're not completely out of options. The most important thing right now is to file your return immediately - every day you wait, the failure-to-file penalty keeps growing. Here's your action plan: 1) File your 2024 tax return ASAP using whatever method is easiest for you (tax software, paper, or a tax professional). 2) Pay as much as you can afford right now, even if it's not the full amount - this will reduce the failure-to-pay penalty and interest charges. 3) Once you get your penalty notice from the IRS, look into First Time Penalty Abatement if you've been compliant for the past 3 years. The failure-to-file penalty is typically 5% of your unpaid taxes per month (up to 25%), so time is really of the essence. If you end up owing a refund, there's actually no penalty for filing late - only if you owe money. Job changes and moves are stressful, and while the IRS doesn't typically consider these "reasonable cause," focusing on damage control now is your best bet. You've got this!
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Logan Greenburg
ā¢@CosmicCommander This is really helpful advice! I'm also dealing with a late filing situation and wondering - when you mention paying "as much as you can afford right now," do you mean I should estimate what I owe and send a payment with my return, or should I wait until I actually file to see the exact amount? I'm worried about overpaying or underpaying if I try to estimate.
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Keisha Williams
ā¢@Logan Greenberg You should definitely wait until you actually prepare your return to know the exact amount you owe - don't try to estimate and send a payment beforehand. When you file your return (whether through tax software or paper), you'll see exactly how much you owe in taxes. At that point, pay whatever amount you can afford along with your return submission. If you can't pay the full amount, don't let that stop you from filing! The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. You can always set up a payment plan with the IRS afterward for any remaining balance. The key is getting that return filed ASAP to stop the failure-to-file penalty from growing.
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