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Diego Castillo

I missed the IRS deadline to file for an extension - is there any way to still request one?

So I messed up big time. With everything going on in my life, I completely forgot to file for an extension before the April 15th deadline. I just realized this yesterday and now I'm freaking out a bit. Is there any possible way to still request an extension even though I'm past the April deadline? Would it help if I mailed in the extension form (Form 4868) now, or is it too late? I'm worried I'm going to get hit with a failure to file penalty and I really can't afford that right now. I know I should have been more on top of this but between changing jobs and moving across town, taxes completely slipped my mind. Any advice on what I should do now would be really appreciated. Is there any leniency or am I just going to have to accept the penalties?

Logan Stewart

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Unfortunately, once you've missed the deadline to file for an extension (April 15th for most taxpayers), you can't retroactively request one. The extension form (Form 4868) has to be filed by the original due date. Here's what you should do now: File your tax return as soon as possible! The failure-to-file penalty is typically 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. The longer you wait, the more penalties you'll face. If you're due a refund, there's actually no penalty for filing late. But if you owe taxes, you'll want to pay as much as you can now to minimize interest and the failure-to-pay penalty (which is separate from the failure-to-file penalty).

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Mikayla Brown

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But what if they had a really good reason for missing the deadline? Like a family emergency or something? Doesn't the IRS have some kind of forgiveness program?

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Logan Stewart

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The IRS may provide penalty relief if you had a legitimate reason for missing the deadline, such as a serious illness, natural disaster, or certain other circumstances beyond your control. This is called "reasonable cause." You'd need to attach a statement to your return explaining the situation when you file. However, simply forgetting or being busy with work/life changes typically doesn't qualify as reasonable cause in the IRS's view. Still, it's always worth explaining your circumstances when you file.

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Zadie Patel

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Sean Matthews

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File now! Even if it's late! The penalty grows every month, so the sooner you file, the less you'll owe. If you've generally been good about filing on time in previous years, you can also request something called "First Time Penalty Abatement" after you file. The IRS might waive the penalties (but not interest) if you've had a clean compliance record for the past 3 years.

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Thanks for the tip about First Time Penalty Abatement! I didn't know about that. I've always filed on time before this year so maybe that could help me. Do I need to request that when I file or is it something I do afterward?

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You should request First Time Penalty Abatement after you file your return and after the IRS sends you a notice assessing the penalties. You can call the IRS directly (the phone number will be on your notice) and request it, or you can write a letter requesting the abatement. Make sure to mention specifically that you're requesting "First Time Penalty Abatement" and that you have a history of compliance for the past three years. It's a relatively straightforward process for most people who qualify, but you do need to proactively ask for it - they won't automatically apply it.

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Lucas Parker

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Quick question - does anyone know if I can use tax software like TurboTax to file late, or do I need to do a paper return at this point?

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Donna Cline

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You can absolutely still use tax software to file late! I filed 2 months late last year using TurboTax with no issues. Most tax software can e-file returns for the current tax year until around November, after which you might need to paper file.

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Hey Diego, I feel your pain - I've been in a similar situation before. The key thing is to act fast now. Since you can't get a retroactive extension, your best bet is to file your return ASAP to minimize the failure-to-file penalty. Here's what I'd recommend: 1) File immediately, even if you can't pay the full amount owed. The failure-to-file penalty is much steeper than the failure-to-pay penalty. 2) Pay as much as you can when you file to reduce interest charges. 3) If you have a clean filing history for the past 3 years, definitely look into First Time Penalty Abatement after you get your penalty notice from the IRS. Don't beat yourself up too much - life happens and you're taking action now. The penalties aren't fun but they're manageable, especially if you qualify for penalty abatement. Good luck!

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This is really solid advice, @Zachary Hughes! I'm in a similar boat as Diego and had no idea about the First Time Penalty Abatement option. Quick question - do you know roughly how long it takes for the IRS to process that request once you submit it? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth waiting for their penalty notice or if I should just plan to pay the penalties upfront when I file.

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@Brooklyn Foley From my experience, the IRS typically takes 4-6 weeks to process a First Time Penalty Abatement request once you call or send in the written request. I d'definitely recommend just filing your return now and paying what you can, then waiting for the penalty notice to arrive usually (2-4 weeks after filing .)Don t'pay the penalties upfront when you file - let the IRS assess them first, then request the abatement. If they approve it, you ll'only owe the interest portion, which is much smaller. If they deny it which (is rare if you truly qualify ,)you can always pay the penalties then. This approach saves you from potentially overpaying and having to wait for a refund.

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Don't panic, Diego! While you can't get a retroactive extension, you're not completely out of options. The most important thing right now is to file your return immediately - every day you wait, the failure-to-file penalty keeps growing. Here's your action plan: 1) File your 2024 tax return ASAP using whatever method is easiest for you (tax software, paper, or a tax professional). 2) Pay as much as you can afford right now, even if it's not the full amount - this will reduce the failure-to-pay penalty and interest charges. 3) Once you get your penalty notice from the IRS, look into First Time Penalty Abatement if you've been compliant for the past 3 years. The failure-to-file penalty is typically 5% of your unpaid taxes per month (up to 25%), so time is really of the essence. If you end up owing a refund, there's actually no penalty for filing late - only if you owe money. Job changes and moves are stressful, and while the IRS doesn't typically consider these "reasonable cause," focusing on damage control now is your best bet. You've got this!

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@CosmicCommander This is really helpful advice! I'm also dealing with a late filing situation and wondering - when you mention paying "as much as you can afford right now," do you mean I should estimate what I owe and send a payment with my return, or should I wait until I actually file to see the exact amount? I'm worried about overpaying or underpaying if I try to estimate.

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Keisha Williams

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@Logan Greenberg You should definitely wait until you actually prepare your return to know the exact amount you owe - don't try to estimate and send a payment beforehand. When you file your return (whether through tax software or paper), you'll see exactly how much you owe in taxes. At that point, pay whatever amount you can afford along with your return submission. If you can't pay the full amount, don't let that stop you from filing! The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. You can always set up a payment plan with the IRS afterward for any remaining balance. The key is getting that return filed ASAP to stop the failure-to-file penalty from growing.

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