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Zara Rashid

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I just want to add something important about credit elect changes that hasn't been mentioned yet. If your client has already made estimated tax payments for 2025, changing this credit elect could potentially create an underpayment penalty situation. The credit elect amount would have been considered paid as of April 15, 2024 (or whatever the filing deadline was), while any replacement estimated payments would only be considered paid on the date they're actually made. This timing difference could trigger penalties if they don't adjust their remaining quarterly payments appropriately.

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Ravi Gupta

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That's a really good point I hadn't thought about. In this case, my client hasn't made any 2025 estimated payments yet - they were planning to rely entirely on the credit elect. If we amend now to get most of it refunded, would you recommend they start making quarterly payments right away to cover 2025 tax liability?

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Zara Rashid

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Yes, I would definitely recommend they start making quarterly estimated payments immediately. Since they're eliminating most of their credit elect cushion, they'll need to ensure they're meeting safe harbor requirements to avoid underpayment penalties. They should calculate their projected 2025 tax liability and make sure they're paying either 90% of that amount or 100% of their 2024 tax liability (110% if their AGI was over $150,000) through quarterly installments. The next deadline is September 16, 2024, so they still have time to adjust their payment strategy. I usually advise clients in this situation to slightly overpay estimates to provide a buffer, especially if they're close to the threshold where penalties might apply.

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Luca Romano

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Anyone know how long amended returns for credit elect changes are taking these days? I filed one for a client back in June (similar situation, wanted to change from credit elect to refund) and we're still waiting.

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Nia Jackson

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Filed one in May for a credit elect change and it took exactly 19 weeks to process. Got the refund direct deposited about a week after that. So roughly 5 months total from submission to money in account. This was a paper-filed amendment though, might be faster if you can e-file.

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Just want to add - make sure you look into the "Safe Harbor" rules for estimated taxes going forward. Since you're going to start filing, you'll need to make quarterly estimated tax payments on both your cash income and investment income for next year. If you don't, you could face underpayment penalties. The basic rule is you need to pay either 90% of this year's taxes or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your income is over a certain threshold) through withholding or estimated payments to avoid penalties. Since this is your first year filing, you'll have to go with the 90% option for next year. I learned this the hard way and got hit with penalties my first year of self-employment. Tax software doesn't always make this clear enough.

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Thanks for mentioning this. I had no idea about quarterly payments. How do you actually make these payments? Do you just guess how much you'll make each quarter?

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You make quarterly estimated tax payments using Form 1040-ES. You can pay online through the IRS website, by mail with a payment voucher, or through the IRS2Go app. As for how much to pay, you essentially estimate your annual income, calculate the tax on it, and divide by four for equal quarterly payments. If your income fluctuates throughout the year, you can make adjustments to each quarterly payment. Many self-employed people set aside about 25-30% of their cash income for taxes (including both income tax and self-employment tax) as a general rule of thumb, though your exact rate will depend on your total income and deductions.

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Ava Harris

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Has anyone considered that starting to file taxes now after not filing before might trigger an audit? I'm worried that suddenly appearing in the system will make the IRS curious about prior years.

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Jacob Lee

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Yes it could raise questions, but the alternative is worse. If you've received a 1099, the IRS already knows about that income. Not filing when they're expecting a return is a bigger red flag than filing for the first time. The audit risk is honestly pretty low for average income individuals. The IRS audits less than 0.5% of individual returns, and they're typically focused on high-income earners, people claiming unusual deductions, or returns with obvious errors. Just filing accurately now is your best protection.

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Ryan Kim

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Double check if your husband filled out a new W4 after the changes in 2020. The form was completely redesigned and removed allowances. A lot of people got confused and ended up with wrong withholding. My wife had the same issue - her employer asked her to fill out the new form but didn't explain it properly. We ended up owing over $4k.

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Zoe Walker

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This happened at my company too. HR gave everyone the new forms but provided zero guidance. Half our accounting department had withholding problems. The new form is way more confusing than the old one.

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Elijah Brown

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Check your state taxes too! If federal wasn't withheld, there's a good chance state taxes weren't either. You might have multiple tax bills coming. Sorry you're dealing with this - happened to me in 2019 and it was a nightmare.

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Jamal Harris

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Don't panic yet! Double-check if you missed entering any withholding from your W-2. I had a similar issue and realized I'd accidentally skipped Box 2 when entering my info. Also, make sure you're claiming all eligible credits - even the ones that seem minor can add up.

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Nia Wilson

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Thank you! I just double-checked and I did enter everything correctly from my W-2. The federal withholding amount on my W-2 is $5,460 which seems lower than it should be based on my income. I'm wondering if something changed with my withholding during the year without me realizing.

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Jamal Harris

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That withholding amount does sound low for a corporate salary. As a quick rule of thumb, your federal withholding should typically be around 15-20% of your income if you're single with no dependents. Check your first pay stub of the year against your most recent one - sometimes withholding percentages change mid-year due to payroll system updates or corporate policy changes. Your HR department should be able to provide a withholding history if you request it.

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GalaxyGlider

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What was your total income? I'm asking because I had a similar issue when I crossed into a higher tax bracket but my withholding didn't automatically adjust. TurboTax should show your effective tax rate somewhere - what does it say?

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Mei Wong

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This happened to me too! My income went from $78k to $86k and I ended up owing $2,100 because my withholding didn't keep pace with the higher bracket. If you got a significant raise or bonus during the year, that's probably what happened.

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Just to add another perspective, I've been filing Schedule C for my clothing business for 5 years now. The distinction really comes down to how central the contractor's work is to your product. For piece work that directly creates your inventory, "Cost of Labor" in Part III (COGS) makes the most sense. This is especially true if you're tracking inventory. If you use accrual accounting, this becomes even more important because you want costs matched to when the related products sell. For services that support your business but don't directly create product (like designers, photographers, website developers), that's when you use "Contract Labor" in Part II.

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Thanks for this explanation! I do track inventory since I need to know how many pieces I have available to sell through my online shop. So if I understand correctly, since the seamstress is literally creating my inventory items, it would be more accurate to put this under Cost of Labor in Part III? Would this change anything about needing to issue a 1099-NEC to her at the end of the year?

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Yes, since she's creating your inventory items and you're tracking inventory, Cost of Labor in Part III is the more accurate classification. This properly ties the expense to your product creation rather than treating it as a general business expense. Regarding the 1099-NEC requirement, that doesn't change at all. You still need to issue a 1099-NEC to any contractor you paid $600+ during the year, regardless of where you classify the expense on your Schedule C. The 1099 requirement is about who received the money, not how you categorize the expense on your tax return.

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Make sure you're keeping good records of all those invoices! I got audited last year for my Schedule C and they specifically looked at my contractor payments. You need: 1) All invoices 2) Proof of payment 3) Business purpose documented 4) 1099-NEC copies Also don't forget you need her taxpayer ID (usually SSN) to file the 1099-NEC. If you didn't collect a W-9 form when you started working with her, get one asap!

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Ezra Beard

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Speaking from experience, definitely get that W-9! I didn't get one from my contractor and then couldn't issue a 1099 properly, which flagged my return. Ended up paying penalties because of it. Such a simple thing but caused so much headache.

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